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He that commits sin is of the devil (1 John 3:8).

We'll just leave it here.

Let that be your motivation to show who you are of, God or the devil.
You must be of the devil then...

a. Wilfully forsaking assembling
b. Trampling Jesus underfoot
c. Counting his blood common and base

ALL WILFUL SIN you openly admit doing....

Your own words condemn you!
 
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Please stay on point and answer the questions. So you no longer sin? Do you know any other persons Christian or not that no longer sin? Waiting for your response.

One other quick question: Can you tell us the secret of how you always obey infallibly and perfectly? Believe me we want to and need to know!
He lives in permanent sin per Hebrews....forsaking the assembling together......he is a hypocrite!
 

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He that commits sin is of the devil (1 John 3:8).

We'll just leave it here.

Let that be your motivation to show who you are of, God or the devil.
See post 137,137.
By your yardstick of measure was Paul "of the devil"? Or Peter per Gal 2:11?
 
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Answer my question, then I will answer yours.

When Jesus told people to "sin no more", did he tell them to do something they could not possibly do?
He told a WHORE to go and SIN NO MORE (BE A WHORE) get your facts straight!

So.....you still living in sin by forsaking the assembling together as the manner of some?
 

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It amazes me how often these scriptures are twisted.

You left out the verses preceding Titus 1:15.

Here is verse 13:

Who was BEFORE a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

And Romans 7 is not explaining a believer's struggle with sin, it is telling us the struggles of a man walking in the flesh (look at Romans 7:5, it says "When we WERE in the flesh"). In Romans 8 Paul makes it clear that we are NOT in the flesh, but in the Spirit.
Absolutely wrong. Paul is not stating that he "was" a sinner. The Greek is clear (profoundly so) and indicates that Paul is stating that he "is" a sinner.

https://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_timothy/1-15.htm
https://biblehub.com/greek/1510.htm

1510 /eimí ("is, am") – in the present tense, indicative mood – can be time-inclusive ("omnitemporal," like the Hebrew imperfect tense). Only the context indicates whether thepresent tense also has "timeless" implications. For example,1510 (eimí) is aptly used in Christ's great "I am" (ego eimi . . . ) that also include His eternality (self-existent life) as ourlife, bread, light," etc. See Jn 7:34, 8:58, etc.

Your interpretation of Romans chapter 7 is likewise woefully erroneous.
 

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What would you tell a Mormon if he decided to forsake his assembly?
I begged two Mormons to forsake their assembly the day before yesterday. Probably for 30 minutes and a lot of Bible verses, mostly prophecy.
 

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Very well.

Continue in your ignorance (1 Corinthians 14:38).
I thought that you said you were a Greek scholar? Surely you jest.
Because 1Timothy 1:15 is absolutely infallibly clear in the Greek.

At any rate I'm going to tip my hand here and state that I think that you are some kind of nutter heretic who is on the bleeding edge of being out of their mind. Sorry but that is my honest assessment. I truly hope I don't get banned for speaking my mind on the matter.
 
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I think that you are some kind of nutter heretic who is on the bleeding edge of being out of their mind
I think if you spend more time on Bible reading, instead of Bible translating, you will be all the better for it.

All the prophets have been accused of being heretics (Jesus was accused of being crazy as well). I am in good company.

For:

Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets (Luke 6:26).

God bless!
 
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The bible is clear if one reads it with eyes OPEN.....

Abraham was JUSTIFIED BY FAITH without the DEEDS/WORKS of the LAW long before HE OFFERED ISAAC......

Do you guys actually even study he bible? You constantly conflate the two covenants, wilfully reject that either the O.T. or N.T. it was and is faith that saves/justifies a man before GOD and that the conditional BLESSINGS of the O.T. were aimed at DWELLING IN THE LAND IN THIS PHYSICAL LIFE AND BEING BLESSED BY GOD....they had ZERO to do with being JUSTIFIED POSITIONALLY before GOD in SALVATION!!!
But what happened when Moses gave the law to Israel at mount Sinai?

It was optional for them to keep it?
 

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I think if you spend more time on Bible reading, instead of Bible translating, you will be all the better for it.

All the prophets have been accused of being heretics (Jesus was accused of being crazy as well). I am in good company.

For:

Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets (Luke 6:26).

God bless!
I have to say I regret my earlier post. I probably should have kept my opinions to myself, but there may be a benefit in that you might reassess your condition and situation and hopefully it will eventually match that of Paul, who was painfully aware that he was a sinner, and stated as much publicly and in writing.

What I need you to do now is to properly exegete 1Tim 1:15.
εἰμι ἐγώ (eimi ego) specifically.
 
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We are not under the Old Covenant which was conditional blessing.....geesh.....this really reeks of dishonesty man....serious and = conflating two covenants which is false and not a biblical stance!
Now the one that can change (you) are pointing out to me (that also can change) that God (that cannot change), changed.

Jesus was clear, He didn’t came to destroy the law but give it its full meaning (in grace) so we can see what we should do. Like always, men were in error and Abba Father showed us the way.

I am a follower of Jesus, He lived Torah and I will try to do so because I am obedient. This has got nothing to do with my salvation. My works are like filthy rags before God without the blood of the Lamb covering me, and His Spirit guiding me.

God bless you DC.
 

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I think if you spend more time on Bible reading, instead of Bible translating, you will be all the better for it.

All the prophets have been accused of being heretics (Jesus was accused of being crazy as well). I am in good company.

For:

Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets (Luke 6:26).

God bless!
You are equating yourself with the prophets yet again. You are nothing whatsoever like the prophets. The prophets were sinners, and said so many times in many places.
You on the other hand are declare that you are perfectly obedient and perfectly righteous.
Not one single solitary human being in the Bible ever stated that.........except for Messiah Lord Jesus Himself.

Anyhoo.....I'm done here and I'm going to put you on ignore have a good evening.
 
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Even those chosen before the foundation of the world?
God knows who is making it and who is not making it (He is God), but if God is forcing us to love Him, it is predestination and I can live my life as I please and I will be saved. Just like He knew Jesus would be crucified the moment He started with His creation, he knew what would happen to all of us.

The Bible teaches us that we are all saved until we choose not to. On that day our names will be blotted out of the Book of Life. Again, it is not God, it is man that is in error.
 

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God knows who is making it and who is not making it (He is God), but if God is forcing us to love Him, it is predestination and I can live my life as I please and I will be saved. Just like He knew Jesus would be crucified the moment He started with His creation, he knew what would happen to all of us.

The Bible teaches us that we are all saved until we choose not to. On that day our names will be blotted out of the Book of Life. Again, it is not God, it is man that is in error.
A couple of points:
-Christians love God willingly, therefore do not live their lives as they please.
-The Bible teaches that none of us are saved until God does the choosing.