"Not by works" - false!

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Chester

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eternally-gratefull said:
He did not say he lived in sin

Huge difference

It is something I guess you can not understand, because your interpretation of what constitutes LIVING IN SIN according to 1 John 3 is flawed. (at the very least. not the same as mine)
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He did say - "For the record, I’m a habitual sinner; I drink, cuss, have sex with my girlfriend, etc." Is being a "habitual sinner" not about the same as living in sin? Now maybe he didn't mean that, and that is why I challenged him (see post # 719).
 
Lightskin

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Chester said:
And since you brought it up, I am going to tell you something!

It is sin to have sex outside of marriage! It does damage to the other person, and to yourself! Sexual sins are some of the biggest tricks of the Devil! And it is not OK for you go bragging about your sin!

Cussing - if you mean taking the name of the Lord in vain, How dare you? That is the one who saved me from sin, loves me, and gave His life for me - and you are using His name in vain?! That is sin!

Drinking - nothing unbiblical about alcohol - but getting drunk is clearly against NT teaching! You didn't say you get drunk, so I won't preach it anymore!

If you come to my children and want to share the gospel with them and in the process you tell them you cuss and have sex with your girlfriend, I will chase you off my property!

Are you a believer? You said you are and that your soul longs for God - you said you have a contrite heart. I take what you say at face value. If so, you should not be offended by what I say.

You are right that we are fully saved by faith and not because of what we do - with that I agree.

But I am not OK with a Christian being OK with being a "habitual sinner" - I won't stand for it! And neither does God!
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Mistake #1: I’m not bragging about any sin but rather admitting it.

Mistake #2: I never said anything about taking the Lord’s Name in vain. I’m talking about four, eight and twelve letter words.

Mistake #3: it doesn’t matter what you think of me; it only matters what God thinks of me, and God knows my heart. That said, I couldn’t care less where you stand.
 
azamzimtoti

azamzimtoti

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DBurrage said:
I'd rather put everything aside and tell you that I love you Biblically.
Are you able to put everything aside and tell me: Do you love me Biblically too?
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This is highly disrespectful of one our sisters, it's really creepy and unworthy of someone naming the name of Christ. You appear mentally unstable.
 
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Lightskin said:
EG and I are brothers in Christ. We know this because we put our full faith in Jesus Christ.
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We are all brothers and sisters in Christ.
This has nothing to do with what @Chester has said to you (see quote below).

Or do you mean that EG is 'more' of a brother/sister to you because they will not confront your sins?

Chester said:
And since you brought it up, I am going to tell you something!

It is sin to have sex outside of marriage! It does damage to the other person, and to yourself! Sexual sins are some of the biggest tricks of the Devil! And it is not OK for you go bragging about your sin!

Cussing - if you mean taking the name of the Lord in vain, How dare you? That is the one who saved me from sin, loves me, and gave His life for me - and you are using His name in vain?! That is sin!

Drinking - nothing unbiblical about alcohol - but getting drunk is clearly against NT teaching! You didn't say you get drunk, so I won't preach it anymore!

If you come to my children and want to share the gospel with them and in the process you tell them you cuss and have sex with your girlfriend, I will chase you off my property!

Are you a believer? You said you are and that your soul longs for God - you said you have a contrite heart. I take what you say at face value. If so, you should not be offended by what I say.
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Chester said:
He did say - "For the record, I’m a habitual sinner; I drink, cuss, have sex with my girlfriend, etc." Is being a "habitual sinner" not about the same as living in sin? Now maybe he didn't mean that, and that is why I challenged him (see post # 719).
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so you have no struggle with any sin whatsoever?

drinking is not a sin, nor is cussing, The sexual issue, well that should be a problem him and his church deals with correct?

I bet if I looked deep into everyone's life like God can, I would see that so many of us have sin issues, and are not as righteous as we THINK we are.

For the record. I asked mr DBurrage what he thoughts were. That if our dear sister, who is an admitted alcoholic. Fell back into that sin, and once again struggled with it. Should she be saved (in response to him asking me about a homosexual) you see. He never responded to me..

yet he continues to judge me.
 
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azamzimtoti said:
This is highly disrespectful of one our sisters, it's really creepy and unworthy of someone naming the name of Christ. You appear mentally unstable.
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Wow!

And to think that you've previously tried to lecture me on hypocrisy.

You can't help yourself but to launch personal attacks, can you?
 
Lightskin

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DBurrage said:
We are all brothers and sisters in Christ.
This has nothing to do with what @Chester has said to you (see quote below).

Or do you mean that EG is 'more' of a brother/sister to you because they will not confront your sins?
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EG and I were put together in one post so that’s why I singled him out, and he agrees.
 
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DBurrage said:
We are all brothers and sisters in Christ.
This has nothing to do with what @Chester has said to you (see quote below).

Or do you mean that EG is 'more' of a brother/sister to you because they will not confront your sins?
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Is it my job to confront him for his sins? Is it your job? Who made you his discipler? His pastor? His brother or sister in his local church?

Actually this is the first time I even heard him mention those things, Should I just call out and scream and call him a sinner, and to repent? Or should I assume his church is already at work helping him to overcome whatever sins he may be struggling with?
 
azamzimtoti

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DBurrage said:
Wow!

And to think that you've previously tried to lecture me on hypocrisy.

You can't help yourself but to launch personal attacks, can you?
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How is this a personal attack? Your behavior is rebukable and you just got rebuked.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Is it my job to confront him for his sins? Is it your job? Who made you his discipler? His pastor? His brother or sister in his local church?

Actually this is the first time I even heard him mention those things, Should I just call out and scream and call him a sinner, and to repent? Or should I assume his church is already at work helping him to overcome whatever sins he may be struggling with?
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You should follow what the Bible says about confronting sin:

https://www.openbible.info/topics/confronting_sins
 
Lightskin

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eternally-gratefull said:
Is it my job to confront him for his sins? Is it your job? Who made you his discipler? His pastor? His brother or sister in his local church?

Actually this is the first time I even heard him mention those things, Should I just call out and scream and call him a sinner, and to repent? Or should I assume his church is already at work helping him to overcome whatever sins he may be struggling with?
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I try every day to be more Christ-like, and God knows this. But again I say to those who lack faith in God’s grace, (not you) it is not what we do but rather what Christ has done.
 
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Lightskin said:
I try every day to be more Christ-like, and God knows this. But again I say to those who lack faith in God’s grace, (not you) it is not what we do but rather what Christ has done.
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Amen,, Our life is secure

But at the same time, Hopefully we are getting help with our sin issues (we call them bessetting sins here at my churhc)
 
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Lightskin

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Chester said:
He did say - "For the record, I’m a habitual sinner; I drink, cuss, have sex with my girlfriend, etc." Is being a "habitual sinner" not about the same as living in sin? Now maybe he didn't mean that, and that is why I challenged him (see post # 719).
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I’m the tax collector in Luke 18. Sorry you have a problem with that because God doesn’t.
 
Sackcloth-N-Ashes

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Lightskin said:
It doesn’t matter what anyone says about anyone else; it only matters what God says about us. I believe you know that. For the record, I’m a habitual sinner; I drink, cuss, have sex with my girlfriend, etc.

Be that as it may, as a deer longs for flowing streams, so my soul longs for God. I have a contrite heart and profound passion to share the Gospel, and will gladly lay down my life in defense of the Gospel if ever need be.

Am I saved? Absolutely, because it’s not what I do, it’s what Jesus has done by placing all my sins upon Himself. We are fully saved by grace through faith.
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Clear contradiction to 1 John 3. You best worry about what God says. And it says you are at variance with His word.
 
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