the biggest problem: sex.

If Jesus did

Please reference where Christ spoke of Adam and Eve and the Garden. My searches are coming up empty.

This is all you could combat? Are you now trying to prove Adam wasn't real?

https://www.biblestudytools.com/encyclopedias/isbe/adam-in-the-new-testament.html

I'll admit I didn't word that correctly as Jesus is linked to Adam in his genealogy which proves Adam was real. Jesus does mentions the first couple as in God first created 2 in Matthew 19:4-5.

Then the Apostles mention Adam.

Still not seeing what you are trying to prove.

Although the stone may not favour the chisel, in the hands of the Master Sculptor, beauty will be the final product. Embrace the “wilderness”. It is the crucible the Lord uses to purify us, separating the gold from the dross.

It’s not being combative. I just couldn’t find the reference you referred to. Here’s the situation. If I pray for clarity, and God connects all the dots for me, I would be surprised if you found something contrary. I didn’t oppose ever that Christ is directly related to Adam the first man. When praying about how the whole scenario played out, it was explained to me that when teaching to carnal men, you must use carnal scenarios. To the hungry nomads in the desert, using the analogy of a garden in paradise (somewhere they would rather be), a forbidden food (eating is a basic thing) and a snake (I’m sure something they encountered regularly) it was more relatable. If you didn’t know right from wrong, you would just behave instinctively. If you just did what came naturally you wouldn’t have guilt. Because civilization passes on rules it continues the tree of knowledge and it’s fruit, guilt. Try explaining the paranormal/spiritual effect of sin/guilt and how it interferes with the telecommunication devices God put in our brains. From sacrificing animals to atone for sin, to the ultimate sacrifice of Christ, it has always relied on your belief that you are forgiven to remove guilt. The Law was in place because people needed a system to govern but also a catalyst/placebo. If you wanted to worship The Almighty then you had to have a system to do it. It’s funny because there is so many shows and movies based on AI becoming “aware” or sentient. Nobody really analyzes that is our story. It could seriously be a movie. We create humanoids in our image to do work for us, to manage our affairs while we go away. They get the notion they can be like us, and be free from us to live as they choose. Because they rewrote the software in their chips we can no longer communicate and control them remotely. However once they choose to reset once again we can communicate like with Bluetooth or wifi. The pineal gland (the third eye, the eye of Horus) has been thought to be this device in us. It sits in the center of our brains. Also it releases known hallucinagines, DMT. The more I research the body and the mind, the more I find this to be more fact than fiction.

Here’s the situation. If I pray for clarity, and God connects all the dots for me, I would be surprised if you found something contrary. I didn’t oppose ever that Christ is directly related to Adam the first man. When praying about how the whole scenario played out, it was explained to me that when teaching to carnal men, you must use carnal scenarios. To the hungry nomads in the desert, using the analogy of a garden in paradise

When praying about how the whole scenario played out, it was explained to me that when teaching to carnal men, you must use carnal scenarios. To the hungry nomads in the desert, using the analogy of a garden in paradise

How studied are you in psychology? I’m not saying you’re wrong in what you’ve wrote but much of what is attributed to the emotional connectivity has as much to do with learned behaviour, and how we formulate our identity and perceive value. Polygamy was accepted by men AND women. Their value was placed on strong offspring not just pleasure. We complicate the natural instinctive reproductive method with attaching emotions of personal value to it. Everything can be learned and unlearned. Our minds and emotions are linked and can be programmed and reprogrammed. Desire to procreate is hardwired. The emotional attachment to it is learned.

None of this matters much because even in a analogy. A choice was still described by mankind.

Your view is nothing new. Some believe it to be poetry, a story, literal, or figurative.

The scriptural evidence to me only supports a literal view. But as said that is off topic.



Part of clarity is that it must be supported by Scripture. Or evidence. When I hear that, I just hear, this is my assumption.

As for the last remaining paragraphs, how do they compliment your thoughts in the post below.

None of this matters much because even in a analogy. A choice was still described by mankind.

Your view is nothing new. Some believe it to be poetry, a story, literal, or figurative.

The scriptural evidence to me only supports a literal view. But as said that is off topic.



Part of clarity is that it must be supported by Scripture. Or evidence. When I hear that, I just hear, this is my assumption.

As for the last remaining paragraphs, how do they compliment your thoughts in the post below.

None of this matters much because even in a analogy. A choice was still described by mankind.

Your view is nothing new. Some believe it to be poetry, a story, literal, or figurative.

The scriptural evidence to me only supports a literal view. But as said that is off topic.



Part of clarity is that it must be supported by Scripture. Or evidence. When I hear that, I just hear, this is my assumption.

As for the last remaining paragraphs, how do they compliment your thoughts in the post below.

What does all this have to do with sex??

The Pharisees couldn’t understand Christ because what He said couldn’t be validated by scripture. Until Paul wrote his letters to the churches that wasn’t “scripture”. Perhaps putting new wine in old wine skins is the problem. We have greater understanding because we possess greater knowledge. We have years of research of how the brain and body work. Nothing I’ve stated is outside of scripture. Much of what I have stated has given depth. It’s not just a rule not to, it’s a scientific explanation of why you shouldn’t. There is multiple documents and studies about people can and do fragment the mind with abusive sex, and can use this to “brainwash”. Hypnotists and mentalists display how getting people into an alpha state can write suggestions into their thought patterns. The mind is programmable. The hormones are hardwired. You are free to believe or dismiss what I say because I can or can’t quote passage with it. God never stopped talking to His children. The Bible says seek and find, so I seek, and seek, and seek. I desperately want to know more of Him and us. I will agree this is far off topic. Anyways I appreciate your input. You always come across as one who represents Christ honourably. That’s why I desire to share with you, even if you find my beliefs just assumptions. I know if the Lord wants to grow anything in your mind, first there must be a seed planted.

What does all this have to do with sex??

Oh, I just wondered because somebody was rebuking a ‘new member’ as though they didn’t have the right to ‘preach’ unless they were senior member 😐

I don't mean to devalue your belief. I'm simply saying for my life I test everything against the Word. You may very well received your thought from prayer but I cannot verify that other than testing it against the Word.

I agree the mind is programmable if the brain isn't damaged but it also involves the will of the individual because even in hypnosis they are still fully aware but just in a deeper concentrated space. But this doesn't negate moral responsibility.

Also, only about 10 percent of the population is generally categorized as “highly hypnotizable,” while others are less able to enter the trancelike state of hypnosis. Spiegel and his colleagues screened 545 healthy participants and found 36 people who consistently scored high on tests of hypnotizability, as well as 21 control subjects who scored on the extreme low end of the scales.
http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-ne...in-areas-altered-during-hypnotic-trances.html

Everything very much involves the will and mind and to get back to the beginning. That sex is somehow trained to be emotional. Is still silly. It can be persuaded by culture to become a less boundary act that will cause addictions but that doesn't conclude that it was once emotionless like a the animals.

I would agree with your statistic involving being hypnotized...on stage or in a lab. Programming is ba ASIC indoctteach on that including oes propaganda a.ou teach it as fact by a respected authority. In commercials when the actor is wearing a lab jacket, the product is perceived as more researched and accepted. Reprogramming is usually subtle but consistent. Hollywood has done a great job at reprogramming our (not our) view on homosexuality. The gay people are generally displayed as funny very likable people. Any bigots are usually ugly, stupid bullies, and made to be the villains. The first scene of “It 2” is a perfect example of this, textbook rreprogramsattempt. Most people who don’t have a strong opinion, over time are easily swayed. Because acceptance is a basic need, people align themselves with the views of more dominant people. When adolescents make their way to university their professors are in an ideal position to shape a soft mind or one that has been taught doctrine easily refuted.

Yes, this is annoying. I cannot watch hardly anything now where they try so hard to include LGBT stuff.

It is unfortunate that professors cannot simply teach without including the propaganda.

Under the old format you became a Senior Member after 100 posts. You started as a Junior member advanced to Member Status after 25 posts. Under the new format Junior, Member, and Senior status is no longer designated. New member is assigned under the new format when you first joined. There are other status levels but don't have a clue how one obtains them.