Riots in Minneapolis

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Lucy-Pevensie

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It's looking disturbingly like Marxist revolution.
This isn’t about fairness and tolerance - just the opposite. It’s about a powerful but small faction seeking control over the lives of a nation to assert its own agenda which will expand and grow into a monster if it's allowed to continue.
 

iamsoandso

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In Scripture they called Elisha "bald-head" https://biblehub.com/2_kings/2-23.htm now if you think about it God created Elisha and Elisha had no control over his hair as to if it grew or not so the insult was as if God himself had done something incorrect in having Elisha's hair not grow.

We as Gods creation have no ability to add to our stature https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-6-27/ nor https://biblehub.com/jeremiah/13-23.htm can an Ethiopian change his skin or a leopard change his spots. We are all created by God and the apparel(skin color,hair,eye color ect.) we are dressed in by him is of his choice and to him he did a perfect job in it.

We should remember this when we sit down at the table of God https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+2&version=KJV
because what we consider good apparel or vile raiment doesn't seem to be the same as God see's it. I think MLK was quoting James about not being judged by the color of our skin and that we would one day walk together which is equal rights that is equal(not one having more than the other and others having less). After all he was a Christian preacher so as fellow Christians we should see this issue.
 

Magenta

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Chicago saw its deadliest day in at least 60 years last month,
with 18 killings within a 24-hour period on 31 May.


The violence occurred as protests over George Floyd's death
in Minneapolis also spurred rioting and looting in the Windy City.


Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot said that on 31 May, the city's 911 emergency
call centre received 65,000 calls - 50,000 more than on an average day.


Over the last weekend in May - a three day holiday - 85 people were
shot and 24 killed, according to the University of Chicago Crime Lab.


Most of the victims were black.

The dead and injured include students, parents and middle-aged workers,
according to the data published in the Chicago Sun-Times.


"We've never seen anything like it, at all," senior research director Max Kapustin
told the newspaper, noting that the Crime Lab's data only goes back as far as 1961.


"I don't even know how to put it into context," he said. "It's beyond anything that we've ever seen before."

The second deadliest day in the city's history was 4 August 1991, when 13 people were killed, according to the data.
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lenna

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antifa is "a political protest movement comprising autonomous groups affiliated by their militant opposition to fascism and other forms of extreme right-wing ideology.
Antifa in America is a leftist terrorist organization that has just been exposed for what they are (like we needed more proof)
 

Desdichado

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They're even worse in Europe, too. Particularly in Germany.

Antifa in America is a leftist terrorist organization that has just been exposed for what they are (like we needed more proof)
 

HoneyDew

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So what has protesting accomplished?

Within 10 days of sustained protests:

👉Minneapolis banned the use of choke holds.

👉Charges were upgraded against Officer Chauvin, and his 3 accomplices arrested and charged.

👉Minneapolis City Council voted to defund the police and invest in a community-led safety model.

👉Dallas adopts a "duty to intervene" rule that requires officers to stop other cops who are engaging in inappropriate use of force.

👉New Jersey’s attorney general said the state will update its use-of-force guidelines for the first time in two decades.

👉In Maryland, a bipartisan group of state lawmakers announced a police reform work group.

👉Los Angeles City Council introduced a motion to reduce LAPD’s $1.8 billion operating budget by $150 million, reversing a decades long trend of growing the police budget.

👉LA Mayor Garcetti has pledged to re-invest the money from the LAPD budget in community improvement measures to reduce crime. Also, effective immediately: a moratorium on the gang database, and sharper discipline against abusive cops.

👉Police brutality captured on cameras leads to near-immediate suspensions and firings of officers in several cities (eg - Buffalo, Ft. Lauderdale).

👉In Atlanta, 2 officers were fired, and 4 other officers charged after they pulled a young couple from their car at the protests and tasered them.

👉A federal judge in Denver issued a restraining order barring Denver PD from using tear gas or projectiles against protesters.

👉In Denver, an officer was fired after tweeting encouragement of violence against protesters.

👉Louisville mayor suspends "no-knock warrants" of the kind used when police killed Breonna Taylor.

👉FBI opens investigation into the killing Breonna Tayor.

👉Philadelphia permanently removes the statue of ex-mayor Rizzo (who famously told residents to "vote white").

👉CA prosecutors launch campaign to stop DA’s from accepting police union money.

👉Tulsa Mayor agrees to not renew Live PD contract.

👉Louisville police chief fired after police kill David Mcatee at a BBQ joint on 6/1.

👉Military forces begin to withdraw from DC.

👉Bipartisan effort in congress begins to shut down a Pentagon program that transfers surplus military weaponry to police.

👉Minn AFL-CIO calls for the resignation of Bob Kroll, the president of the Minn police union and a vocal white supremacist.

👉Civil Rights investigation of Minneapolis PD launched.

👉University of Minnesota, Minn public schools and Minn Parks and Rec have canceled their contracts with the MPD. Minn Institute of Art, First Avenue, Walker Art Center end use of MPD for events.

👉San Francisco DA announces resolution to prevent law enforcement from hiring officers with history of misconduct.

👉Richmond, VA Mayor Stoney announces RPD reform measures: establishing "Marcus" alert for people experiencing mental health crisis, independent Citizen Review Board, an ordinance to remove Confederate monuments, and implementing a racial equity study.

👉Bus unions in multiple cities including Boston, Minneapolis and NYC agree to stop using public buses to transport police officers to protests or to transport arrested protesters.

👉Seattle changes mind and withdraws request to end federal oversight/consent decree of police department.

👉Portland schools superintendent ends use of armed police officers in schools.

👉King County Labor Federation issues ultimatum to police unions, to admit to and address racism in Seattle PD, or be removed.

👉Two Buffalo PD officers were arrested and charged for violently shoving a 75-year old man. The union has suggested not paying their legal fees.
 

iamsoandso

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The media I notice plays parts of videos on the news and because of this I found that NPR most times have the actual videos to play. In the video I noticed he has a phone or something and is poking it at the officers gun belt? And then the two who pushed him back(plastic face mask) turn around shaking their heads as if they did not intend to harm him, What do you see? https://www.npr.org/sections/live-u...ers-charged-after-shoving-protester-to-ground
 
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DWR

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So what has protesting accomplished?

Within 10 days of sustained protests:

👉Minneapolis banned the use of choke holds.

👉Charges were upgraded against Officer Chauvin, and his 3 accomplices arrested and charged.

👉Minneapolis City Council voted to defund the police and invest in a community-led safety model.

👉Dallas adopts a "duty to intervene" rule that requires officers to stop other cops who are engaging in inappropriate use of force.

👉New Jersey’s attorney general said the state will update its use-of-force guidelines for the first time in two decades.

👉In Maryland, a bipartisan group of state lawmakers announced a police reform work group.

👉Los Angeles City Council introduced a motion to reduce LAPD’s $1.8 billion operating budget by $150 million, reversing a decades long trend of growing the police budget.

👉LA Mayor Garcetti has pledged to re-invest the money from the LAPD budget in community improvement measures to reduce crime. Also, effective immediately: a moratorium on the gang database, and sharper discipline against abusive cops.

👉Police brutality captured on cameras leads to near-immediate suspensions and firings of officers in several cities (eg - Buffalo, Ft. Lauderdale).

👉In Atlanta, 2 officers were fired, and 4 other officers charged after they pulled a young couple from their car at the protests and tasered them.

👉A federal judge in Denver issued a restraining order barring Denver PD from using tear gas or projectiles against protesters.

👉In Denver, an officer was fired after tweeting encouragement of violence against protesters.

👉Louisville mayor suspends "no-knock warrants" of the kind used when police killed Breonna Taylor.

👉FBI opens investigation into the killing Breonna Tayor.

👉Philadelphia permanently removes the statue of ex-mayor Rizzo (who famously told residents to "vote white").

👉CA prosecutors launch campaign to stop DA’s from accepting police union money.

👉Tulsa Mayor agrees to not renew Live PD contract.

👉Louisville police chief fired after police kill David Mcatee at a BBQ joint on 6/1.

👉Military forces begin to withdraw from DC.

👉Bipartisan effort in congress begins to shut down a Pentagon program that transfers surplus military weaponry to police.

👉Minn AFL-CIO calls for the resignation of Bob Kroll, the president of the Minn police union and a vocal white supremacist.

👉Civil Rights investigation of Minneapolis PD launched.

👉University of Minnesota, Minn public schools and Minn Parks and Rec have canceled their contracts with the MPD. Minn Institute of Art, First Avenue, Walker Art Center end use of MPD for events.

👉San Francisco DA announces resolution to prevent law enforcement from hiring officers with history of misconduct.

👉Richmond, VA Mayor Stoney announces RPD reform measures: establishing "Marcus" alert for people experiencing mental health crisis, independent Citizen Review Board, an ordinance to remove Confederate monuments, and implementing a racial equity study.

👉Bus unions in multiple cities including Boston, Minneapolis and NYC agree to stop using public buses to transport police officers to protests or to transport arrested protesters.

👉Seattle changes mind and withdraws request to end federal oversight/consent decree of police department.

👉Portland schools superintendent ends use of armed police officers in schools.

👉King County Labor Federation issues ultimatum to police unions, to admit to and address racism in Seattle PD, or be removed.

👉Two Buffalo PD officers were arrested and charged for violently shoving a 75-year old man. The union has suggested not paying their legal fees.
 
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DWR

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So what has protesting accomplished?

Within 10 days of sustained protests:

👉Minneapolis banned the use of choke holds.

👉Charges were upgraded against Officer Chauvin, and his 3 accomplices arrested and charged.

👉Minneapolis City Council voted to defund the police and invest in a community-led safety model.

👉Dallas adopts a "duty to intervene" rule that requires officers to stop other cops who are engaging in inappropriate use of force.

👉New Jersey’s attorney general said the state will update its use-of-force guidelines for the first time in two decades.

👉In Maryland, a bipartisan group of state lawmakers announced a police reform work group.

👉Los Angeles City Council introduced a motion to reduce LAPD’s $1.8 billion operating budget by $150 million, reversing a decades long trend of growing the police budget.

👉LA Mayor Garcetti has pledged to re-invest the money from the LAPD budget in community improvement measures to reduce crime. Also, effective immediately: a moratorium on the gang database, and sharper discipline against abusive cops.

👉Police brutality captured on cameras leads to near-immediate suspensions and firings of officers in several cities (eg - Buffalo, Ft. Lauderdale).

👉In Atlanta, 2 officers were fired, and 4 other officers charged after they pulled a young couple from their car at the protests and tasered them.

👉A federal judge in Denver issued a restraining order barring Denver PD from using tear gas or projectiles against protesters.

👉In Denver, an officer was fired after tweeting encouragement of violence against protesters.

👉Louisville mayor suspends "no-knock warrants" of the kind used when police killed Breonna Taylor.

👉FBI opens investigation into the killing Breonna Tayor.

👉Philadelphia permanently removes the statue of ex-mayor Rizzo (who famously told residents to "vote white").

👉CA prosecutors launch campaign to stop DA’s from accepting police union money.

👉Tulsa Mayor agrees to not renew Live PD contract.

👉Louisville police chief fired after police kill David Mcatee at a BBQ joint on 6/1.

👉Military forces begin to withdraw from DC.

👉Bipartisan effort in congress begins to shut down a Pentagon program that transfers surplus military weaponry to police.

👉Minn AFL-CIO calls for the resignation of Bob Kroll, the president of the Minn police union and a vocal white supremacist.

👉Civil Rights investigation of Minneapolis PD launched.

👉University of Minnesota, Minn public schools and Minn Parks and Rec have canceled their contracts with the MPD. Minn Institute of Art, First Avenue, Walker Art Center end use of MPD for events.

👉San Francisco DA announces resolution to prevent law enforcement from hiring officers with history of misconduct.

👉Richmond, VA Mayor Stoney announces RPD reform measures: establishing "Marcus" alert for people experiencing mental health crisis, independent Citizen Review Board, an ordinance to remove Confederate monuments, and implementing a racial equity study.

👉Bus unions in multiple cities including Boston, Minneapolis and NYC agree to stop using public buses to transport police officers to protests or to transport arrested protesters.

👉Seattle changes mind and withdraws request to end federal oversight/consent decree of police department.

👉Portland schools superintendent ends use of armed police officers in schools.

👉King County Labor Federation issues ultimatum to police unions, to admit to and address racism in Seattle PD, or be removed.

👉Two Buffalo PD officers were arrested and charged for violently shoving a 75-year old man. The union has suggested not paying their legal fees.
You forgot to mention those lives lost, property destroyed, and people's livelihood destroyed.
 

iamsoandso

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And the things taking place in protest around the world.
 

Desdichado

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If only I had time to verify and address these point by point.

Assuming all of these accomplishments are accurate. Are they all necessarily good changes? Do they tell us the whole story?

So what has protesting accomplished?

Within 10 days of sustained protests:

👉Minneapolis banned the use of choke holds.

👉Charges were upgraded against Officer Chauvin, and his 3 accomplices arrested and charged.

👉Minneapolis City Council voted to defund the police and invest in a community-led safety model.

👉Dallas adopts a "duty to intervene" rule that requires officers to stop other cops who are engaging in inappropriate use of force.

👉New Jersey’s attorney general said the state will update its use-of-force guidelines for the first time in two decades.

👉In Maryland, a bipartisan group of state lawmakers announced a police reform work group.

👉Los Angeles City Council introduced a motion to reduce LAPD’s $1.8 billion operating budget by $150 million, reversing a decades long trend of growing the police budget.

👉LA Mayor Garcetti has pledged to re-invest the money from the LAPD budget in community improvement measures to reduce crime. Also, effective immediately: a moratorium on the gang database, and sharper discipline against abusive cops.

👉Police brutality captured on cameras leads to near-immediate suspensions and firings of officers in several cities (eg - Buffalo, Ft. Lauderdale).

👉In Atlanta, 2 officers were fired, and 4 other officers charged after they pulled a young couple from their car at the protests and tasered them.

👉A federal judge in Denver issued a restraining order barring Denver PD from using tear gas or projectiles against protesters.

👉In Denver, an officer was fired after tweeting encouragement of violence against protesters.

👉Louisville mayor suspends "no-knock warrants" of the kind used when police killed Breonna Taylor.

👉FBI opens investigation into the killing Breonna Tayor.

👉Philadelphia permanently removes the statue of ex-mayor Rizzo (who famously told residents to "vote white").

👉CA prosecutors launch campaign to stop DA’s from accepting police union money.

👉Tulsa Mayor agrees to not renew Live PD contract.

👉Louisville police chief fired after police kill David Mcatee at a BBQ joint on 6/1.

👉Military forces begin to withdraw from DC.

👉Bipartisan effort in congress begins to shut down a Pentagon program that transfers surplus military weaponry to police.

👉Minn AFL-CIO calls for the resignation of Bob Kroll, the president of the Minn police union and a vocal white supremacist.

👉Civil Rights investigation of Minneapolis PD launched.

👉University of Minnesota, Minn public schools and Minn Parks and Rec have canceled their contracts with the MPD. Minn Institute of Art, First Avenue, Walker Art Center end use of MPD for events.

👉San Francisco DA announces resolution to prevent law enforcement from hiring officers with history of misconduct.

👉Richmond, VA Mayor Stoney announces RPD reform measures: establishing "Marcus" alert for people experiencing mental health crisis, independent Citizen Review Board, an ordinance to remove Confederate monuments, and implementing a racial equity study.

👉Bus unions in multiple cities including Boston, Minneapolis and NYC agree to stop using public buses to transport police officers to protests or to transport arrested protesters.

👉Seattle changes mind and withdraws request to end federal oversight/consent decree of police department.

👉Portland schools superintendent ends use of armed police officers in schools.

👉King County Labor Federation issues ultimatum to police unions, to admit to and address racism in Seattle PD, or be removed.

👉Two Buffalo PD officers were arrested and charged for violently shoving a 75-year old man. The union has suggested not paying their legal fees.
 

PennEd

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You forgot to mention those lives lost, property destroyed, and people's livelihood destroyed.
I almost wish these insanely foolish people would get there wish, and there would be no police in these Democrat cities.

After a couple of weeks they will be crying, and begging for police.
 
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lenna

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The media I notice plays parts of videos on the news and because of this I found that NPR most times have the actual videos to play. In the video I noticed he has a phone or something and is poking it at the officers gun belt? And then the two who pushed him back(plastic face mask) turn around shaking their heads as if they did not intend to harm him, What do you see? https://www.npr.org/sections/live-u...ers-charged-after-shoving-protester-to-ground
A video has actually surfaced in which that same man is seen talking with the man who videotaped the episode.

Doctors have now stated that the way he is supposed to have hit his head would not incur bleeding from the ear.

His facebook page is also encouraging violence and hatred towards police.

And on it goes.
 

Dude653

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A video has actually surfaced in which that same man is seen talking with the man who videotaped the episode.

Doctors have now stated that the way he is supposed to have hit his head would not incur bleeding from the ear.

His facebook page is also encouraging violence and hatred towards police.

And on it goes.
The officers have been charged with assault
Cops don't go to jail over fake assaults
 
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lenna

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The officers have been charged with assault
Cops don't go to jail over fake assaults

That's old news already.
I was posting something new regarding the 75 yr old man

In this day of lies and deception coming from all sides, do I think innocent people go to jail or are charged with things they have not done?

you betcha.

You most likely do not think so, but if a 4 star General can be conspired against, lied about and exculpatory evidence hidden, then sure a couple of cops can be hauled off also. Did you notice though, that 52 other officers quit that unit in support of them? That says something.
 

Dude653

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That's old news already.
I was posting something new regarding the 75 yr old man

In this day of lies and deception coming from all sides, do I think innocent people go to jail or are charged with things they have not done?

you betcha.

You most likely do not think so, but if a 4 star General can be conspired against, lied about and exculpatory evidence hidden, then sure a couple of cops can be hauled off also. Did you notice though, that 52 other officers quit that unit in support of them? That says something.
Yes as we have a big problem with police corruption
There's not a judge in America who's going to put a cop in jail without valid evidence
 

Magenta

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Doctors have now stated that the way he is supposed to have hit his head would not incur bleeding from the ear.
Supposed to have hit his head? Are these supposed doctors now diagnosing by video footage, or have they even seen the footage? The claim that bleeding from the ear would not be a result of an injury from such a fall is pure lunacy. They should have their licenses revoked.
 
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Susanna

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A video has actually surfaced in which that same man is seen talking with the man who videotaped the episode.

Doctors have now stated that the way he is supposed to have hit his head would not incur bleeding from the ear.

His facebook page is also encouraging violence and hatred towards police.

And on it goes.
Some doctors lol.

No real doctor would say something as crazy as that.

When a person’s head hits asphalt or concrete it takes very little before damage to the brain can be seen.

A doctor who hasn’t even seen the injury will not be diagnosing a person like you claim.

Looks like your “doctors” are fake news.

Haha