Thoughts on Philosophy and its relation to faith?

Highly intelligent Christians understand philosophy?

God is clear on the subject, stay away!

"Caution dangerous cliff ahead"

"BEWARE"!

Colossians 2:8KJV
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

C.S. Lewis and his Narnia series was occultic, Lewis had a passion for the occult.

(Trouble In Narnia)

"The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" is the third book in the Narnia series. It directly promotes spells and magic.

Chapter 10 ("The Magician's Book") features a book of spells that is on an island inhabited by invisible creatures called Dufflepuds. Lucy works a spell to make the Dufflepuds visible. She goes through a spell book, and it is beautiful and fascinating. Then she finds the right spell and says the words and follows the instructions. And then the Dufflepuds (and Aslan) become visible. Her spell made Aslan visible, and he is pleased with what she did.

The book of spells is beautiful and fascinating. One spell is illustrated with pictures of bees that look as if they are really flying. In the world of C.S. Lewis’ day, this would not have caused practical problems. However, these days, kids can go to regular bookstores and buy spell books written by modern witches.

Many Christians are treating the Narnia books as being an allegory, with Aslan representing Jesus and the children representing Christians. If you do this with “The Voyage of the Dawn Treader,” then you portray Jesus as being pleased when Christians do magic and work spells. And you support the idea that that there are “good” spells and “good” magic. That belief is the basis for modern “white” witchcraft. However, the Bible clearly forbids any form of witchcraft:
In his autobiography (Surprised by Joy), Lewis tells how at age 13 he abandoned his Anglican faith due to the influence of a school mistress who was involved with “Theosophy, Rosicrucianism, Spiritualism; the whole Anglo-American Occultist tradition.” And Lewis developed a “lust” for the occult that remained with him even after he returned to Anglicanism. He said,

Below is an exerpt of C.S. Lewis that you quoted.

those who have will know what I mean. I once tried to describe it in a novel. It is a spiritual lust; and like the lust of the body it has the fatal power of making everything else in the world seem uninteresting while it lasts.”[2]


Did you quote a man's statement of repentance yet continue to accuse him of the sin. ?

I love this story.
It shows how Paul knew that whatever measure of truth he might find in their myth could be pointed to Christ. This is the groundwork for converting distant pagan nations. Moses even did to the Egyptian myth. Egyption creation myth is founded on the Orobouros. The snake that swallows it's tail. Moses turns the tail into a human foot that can't be swallowed . Thus ending the loop of repeated history Satan had us trapped in. There is now enmity between that end and beginning.
Moses having received Divine Revelation used the construct and language the Egyptians had developed to express it.
In doing so the Egyptian god's were demolished.

Paul found a smidgen of truth in Greek myth and pointed it towards it's true object. As for the philosophers they are comparable to the JEwish religious leaders. They were much more open though they ask;

May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest, is?

They were accepting until it got to the resurrection of the dead. One Creator God wasn't a stumbling block for them which makes sense since that is the limitation of human reasoning. Their construct and language can't go beyond that.

Sorry for the long post. Philosophy is not condemned here either brother.

And Lewis developed a “lust” for the occult that remained with him even after he returned to Anglicanism. He said,

It is interesting to me that you can draw the incorrect conclusion and yet at the same time notice the similarities between the ancient white pagan philosophers and the jewish heretics of the Pharisees and Sadducees. In fact the Sadducee branch of the heresy of the jews was the one that was very noted for being corrupted by Western/Javanic philosophy and religion. It is curious that both the Sadducees and the Western pagan philosophers both seem to stumble at the concept of the resurrection of Lord Jesus and the resurrection of the dead at the Apocalypse.

It is interesting to me that you can draw the incorrect conclusion and yet at the same time notice the similarities between the ancient white pagan philosophers and the jewish heretics of the Pharisees and Sadducees. In fact the Sadducee branch of the heresy of the jews was the one that was very noted for being corrupted by Western/Javanic philosophy and religion. It is curious that both the Sadducees and the Western pagan philosophers both seem to stumble at the concept of the resurrection of Lord Jesus and the resurrection of the dead at the Apocalypse.

That's a gross misreading of the text.

It doesn't say, "Beware of philosophy!" It says, "Beware, lest any man spoil you through philosophy...."

Don't get your wisdom and understanding about God and His ways from philosophy; such things come from the Holy Spirit through Scripture. However, the wise Christian makes effort to understand the world in which he or she lives, requiring at least a basic understanding of the way non-Christian people think, which means understanding at least some philosophy.

It is interesting to me that you can draw the incorrect conclusion and yet at the same time notice the similarities between the ancient white pagan philosophers and the jewish heretics of the Pharisees and Sadducees. In fact the Sadducee branch of the heresy of the jews was the one that was very noted for being corrupted by Western/Javanic philosophy and religion. It is curious that both the Sadducees and the Western pagan philosophers both seem to stumble at the concept of the resurrection of Lord Jesus and the resurrection of the dead at the Apocalypse.

Understanding ones own. . . that kind?

It is interesting to me that you can draw the incorrect conclusion and yet at the same time notice the similarities between the ancient white pagan philosophers and the jewish heretics of the Pharisees and Sadducees. In fact the Sadducee branch of the heresy of the jews was the one that was very noted for being corrupted by Western/Javanic philosophy and religion. It is curious that both the Sadducees and the Western pagan philosophers both seem to stumble at the concept of the resurrection of Lord Jesus and the resurrection of the dead at the Apocalypse.

No nonsense whatsoever

"BEWARE"!

Colossians 2:8KJV
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

One's own... what?

Philosophies

How exactly does philosophy spoil someone?

In war when you are spoiled is when the enemy comes and lays waste to all your goods, carrying away your gifts and destroying all your substance.

It's a fitting word for the spiritual warfare aspect. Many people that had great talents and gifts from the Lord God have had them robbed and destroyed from them by philosophy.

In war when you are spoiled is when the enemy comes and lays waste to all your goods, carrying away your gifts and destroying all your substance.

It's a fitting word for the spiritual warfare aspect. Many people that had great talents and gifts from the Lord God have had them robbed and destroyed from them by philosophy.

A prime example would be Christians caught in the lodges of freemasonry, and their philosophy of men.

Reason attain
How does philosophy do that?

Yes I suppose they'd be a good example of a new age pagan cult based around philosophy.




Because all the philosophers are liars and their philosophies are lies. Because of this many will be turned astray and sent on wild goose chases. Consider as was noted before by yourself how the priest class fell, people whom should have welcomed the Christ with pleasant things and honor. Instead, because they were corrupted by philosophy, they will forever be known for asking some of the most stupid questions anyone ever asks Jesus in the whole Bible.

Paul's mention of the Greek philosopher's?

Acts 17:22-23KJV
22 Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.
23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, To The Unknown God. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.

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