Catholicism vs Protestantism

well, my impression is that slavery in New testament times varied widely.

some things I found:
The fate of a slave depended largely on the temperament of his or her master. Masters could punish slaves brutally for real or perceived infractions. Sexual abuse of slaves was also common. Slave work included hard labor as well as skilled service like tutoring, bookkeeping, and estate managing.
https://www.bibleodyssey.org/en/passages/related-articles/slavery-in-the-new-testament

Slavery in New Testament times had shades of early American chattel slavery, modern sex trafficking, Old Testament debt bondage, and even apprenticeships and internships.
https://www.compellingtruth.org/slavery-New-Testament.html

Is pray to queen of heaven Christian tradition?

imo, there's not a simple answer to that question.

there's this
18. But since we left off burning incense to the queen of the sky, and pouring out drink offerings to her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine.
(Jeremiah, 44)

but that's not what Catholics are thinking of.

there's this
1. A great sign was seen in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars.
(Revelation, 12)

is the woman talked about there Mary?

is asking another Christian to pray for you biblical or a tradition?

does it matter if that Christian has died?

how a person answers those questions will determine how much they think praying to the Queen of heaven is tradition or biblical.

People disagree about many things in the bible. However, when it comes to something as crucial as ones spiritual rebirth a person better be sure they obey what is seen in the word.

And Jesus promise Holy Spirit will help us to understand.

Can we bear fruit of ourselves? No

In the same token, we can't bear many thing on verse 12

Do you think pray to queen of heaven is the thing that Jesus mean by the thing that Jesus not tell them in verse 12?

If you look hard enough you can find anything online to prove a predetermined answer.

Here are some definitions from Scripture; they tell a different story...

Matthew 20:26-28, "Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be your slave— just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”

Romans 6:14-22, "What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means! Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?" => slave to obedience <= "But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance. I am using an example from everyday life because of your human limitations. Just as you used to offer yourselves as slaves to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer yourselves as slaves to righteousness leading to holiness. When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.

1 Corinthians 7:22, "For the one who was a slave when called to faith in the Lord is the Lord’s freed person; similarly, the one who was free when called is Christ’s slave.

is the woman talked about there Mary?

is asking another Christian to pray for you biblical or a tradition?

does it matter if that Christian has died?

how a person answers those questions will determine how much they think praying to the Queen of heaven is

probably better when talking about Mary to think in terms of asking Mary to intercede for you.

probably better when talking about Mary to think in terms of asking Mary to intercede for you.

Do you believe that woman Mary? If so why?

Ask another live Christian to pray is on the Bible

Do you believe the death able to hear you?

Is heaven have a queen?

Queen of heaven is pagan God

The title tell what is it

Title : pray to doesn't mean ask one to pray.

1. It mean you believe she able to hear billions people.

2. Intercede mean ask her pray for you
Example: Mary, please pray for me.

If I ask my pastor to pray for me, I will say,:" pastor please pray for me".
Not say to my death pastor
Oh powerfull death pastor, protect me, I entrust myself to you.

This is oray to not ask to pray for me.

This is how pope pray and entrust all catholic to queen

The title tell what is it

Title : pray to doesn't mean ask one to pray.

my feeling is our probably refers to the nation of Israel.

I think the Bible is unclear about our relationship with Christians who have died.

I believe you are misunderstanding the English there.

My feeling is church, because a church is a bride also spiritual Israelites

I never read in the Bible Christian pray to Moses, or Stephen that die before apostles, that is clue not pray to the death.

In my country some people pray to the death, it is pagan tradition.

My friend sister in law use to ask his death uncle an advice before she accept Jesus.

Her uncle use to good in Tabasco business. Every years people buy Tabasco at harvest season, and store it than sale it when the price up. Tabasco price low at harvest season and up few months after. But the quality of Tabaco change from harvest to harvest, depend on rain and temperature. Some time people store Taba

And you believe pray to mean ask one to pray for you?

Do you believe that woman Mary? If so why?

In Rev 12:1 we read “And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars”

Who is this woman? Three different suggestions are proposed; Mary, symbolic of Israel, symbolic of the Church. It is possible that she represents all three. Such “fusion imagery” is common in the Bible, especially in apocalyptic literature.

For example in Rev 4:6-8 the four beasts around the throne are a fusion of the elements of the cherubim in Ezekial 10:1-14 and the Seraphim in Isaiah 6:1-6.
Like the cherubim in Ezekial they have faces of a man, an ox, a lion and an eagle, like the Seraphim they had six wings.

The elders around the throne are 24 (Rev 4:4) because they are a fusion of the 12 patriarchs and the 12 apostles.

Polyvalent symbolism is also a feature of Revelation. For example the seven heads of the beast in Rev 17:3 represent seven hills and also seven kings (Rev 17:9)

It would not be surprising therefore if the woman in Rev 12 is a fusion and/or polyvalent symbolism with elements of Israel and the Church present. Primarily though the woman must be Mary, the mother of Jesus because the woman is identified as giving birth to a son, “a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod”– reference to Psalm 2:9 & Rev 11:15. Moreover “Her child was caught up to God and his throne” so the child is clearly Jesus. Therefore the woman who gave him birth is Mary.

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