ORANGE MAN BAD?

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JaumeJ

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No believer can" do anything to favor our Maker other than to offer Him thanksgiving in spirit and truth. No believer can do good works unless he avails himself to our Lord and our Lord does the work through Him.
There are many things I cannot do, but our Maker ahs done them using my availability to obey Him at given times. So it must be for all who do the works of God.
 

Moses_Young

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How can a man who would be a world leader as a sefl/proclaimed double Bible toting man teach, and I quote, '"The way to handle a woman is to grab her by her c---?" What kind of a following has a man who is such?
I think the word he used was "pussy". Although the intended meaning was the same as what you stated (and not right), I don't consider the word pussy to be demeaning as I consider "c*nt" to be.

In addition, I've heard it said by many people on many occasions to "grab him by the balls", or "bust his balls", or "s/he's a real ball-buster". This sort of language refers to showing authority rather than anything sexual, but I don't see this use of language as any different to the language Trump used. Somehow, though, society demonizes what Trump said a long time ago, but says nothing about those who use very similar phrases today. Perhaps because one phrase is clearly said in relation to exerting power over the female gender, and the other used in relation to exerting power over the male gender?
 

posthuman

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IMO,he has to win more voters than just his base voters so some would consider him holding a Bible would be a smart political move garnering more support.
but friend, his base voters are exactly the people that think that just because he's holding a copy of the Bible in a staged photo they are commissioned by God to put him in power and keep him there at all costs, regardless of what he says or does, who he is, or whether he believes, acts on, or even knows anything about what's contained in the stage-prop he showed them.

like, i sincerely doubt that crudely arranged 'poster moment' was meant to or has any chance to gain votes from anyone who wasn't already committed to him.
 
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EleventhHour

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but friend, his base voters are exactly the people that think that just because he's holding a copy of the Bible in a staged photo they are commissioned by God to put him in power and keep him there at all costs, regardless of what he says or does, who he is, or whether he believes, acts on, or even knows anything about what's contained in the stage-prop he showed them.

like, i sincerely doubt that crudely arranged 'poster moment' was meant to or has any chance to gain votes from anyone who wasn't already committed to him.
Agree... The bible was upside down ..no one barely noticed.
 

posthuman

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Agree... The bible was upside down ..no one barely noticed.
the big deal to me is that it was closed :rolleyes:

i think we would have had a much different presidency if he would open it sometime. he's using it like it's some kind of magic talisman =|
 
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If Trump is a hate mongering evil bad man like the media keeps trying to tell us then why is it not his followers that are doing all the rioting and looting stores, destroying property & killing cops , Orange Man Bad?
Most of the mainstream media outlets sympathize with leftist political ideology. So they only make talking points that promote their cause while tearing down their opposition.

Remember when Barrack was president and he enjoyed 8 years of totally positive media coverage? Then they went on to boast he had a scandal-free presidency.

It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy when the same people who tell us how to interpret reality are also the same ones who never say anything bad about who they support. The result in the public eye is that the good and bad people are whoever the media says they are.

It should be for us to use our discerning minds to read between the lines and parse out the truth when the media talks.
 

shittim

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And take everything to the Lord, as He has clearly instructed that we lean not on our own understanding but seek His always truthful answer to make our path straight, that is the difference between "cannot" and "will not", He gave us dominion and free will to choose.
 

JaumeJ

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And take everything to the Lord, as He has clearly instructed that we lean not on our own understanding but seek His always truthful answer to make our path straight, that is the difference between "cannot" and "will not", He gave us dominion and free will to choose.
I do not believe you understand my post on why we cannot.

Once, I am told by a very larg number of witnesse, I was in two places at the same time. I was told about my being on a mountain speaking of the Holy Spirit and the power God has bestowed bby grace upon men, willing ones. I asked when this was, when told dI knew I was at my own campsite sleeping and in the Holy Spirit feeling the love of our Father engulfing me all the night. I believe they saw a version of me, for I always would speak on the Holy Spirit in those days.
So here I cannot, but my Father certainly can.
 
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How can a man who would be a world leader as a sefl/proclaimed double Bible toting man teach, and I quote, '"The way to handle a woman is to grab her by her c---?" What kind of a following has a man who is such?
Have you ever made ungodly statements? Lets hear them publicly.
 

tourist

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Take it in context. I cannot means I cannot adhere to that type of thinking. You may put it as you have or understand as I.
I prefer the term cannot instead of can't which seems a tad lame in comparison. Not sure what is similar to ain't or what it is even a contraction of since I don't believe that it's even a word in the first place. I cannot understand this.
 

JaumeJ

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I prefer the term cannot instead of can't which seems a tad lame in comparison. Not sure what is similar to ain't or what it is even a contraction of since I don't believe that it's even a word in the first place. I cannot understand this.
Can't is perfectly acceptable contracting can not...……..(or are you kidding?) God bless you always..j
 

JaumeJ

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Have you ever made ungodly statements? Lets hear them publicly.
Have you ever sinned_ The tongue is the most unruly member of the body, however I am not a candidate for office where I would have power to kill and destroy at will, nor would dI be. Do not ask questions trying to entrap others,. This posting is about the one in power not those under power.
 

shittim

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There was no entrapment question, we are all required to remove the beam in our own eye first, before we can see clearly. Our president was raised up for such a time as this, those who are not a part of the remnant will not see this, they have chosen by the way they choose to not be in relationship to be unable to see the Fathers work.
 

JaumeJ

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Politics, politicians, and nations of this age have nothing to do with the Word other than to be the staging for the unfolding of our Father-s will.
As it is written, the flags of the nations are Gods. This latter is yet to come about.
As for nations, it is pompous and puffed up to believe one nation is above any other, excepting of course that Nation which has New Jerusalem as its capital.
All too many are propping up their puppets as though they are foretold by the prophets of God.
UInderstand dthis, there are, to my best recollection, only four prophesied in the W"ord. These four are the anti
Christ ans his prophet along with the Two Faithful Witnesses.
No one else is mentioned to come to be specifically doing the work of our Father except some of the many false prophets.
All who read the Word know these to be truth. Please drop the condemnations and accusations of the faithful. May God repay all, and that right soon.
 

JaumeJ

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An added note: always pray for those allowed to govern any nation, for they are supposed to look out for the well/being of all of the citizens over whom they are in charge.
When they do what you know is wrong, do not pray for their errors for this makes you a participant in their sins.
 

shittim

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https://biblehub.com/daniel/2-21.htm
Clearly He raises up and takes down rulers.
Your view may be rooted in a less than mature area of your faith walk, you too, will grow if you choose, as is our President growing in the Lord. When you dredge up something he may have said from 40 years ago you bring that judgement upon yourself, as do we all when when lean on our own understanding.

This is another indication of the use of "cannot" when "will not" is accurate.
As will we all, this process of life is to conform us to the image of the Son, this world is not our goal, eternity is our goal.

The separating of the sheep from the goats appears to be an ongoing process world wide, the more we grow in this life the greater reward and crowns we may lay at His feet. If we stop at salvation and look upon the world as the goal we miss the mark, clearly blessing and cursing extends to our third and fourth generations, it behooves us to grow and take everything to the Father in prayer without ceasing, that He will make straight our path.
Not everyone here will do so, or even realize that is required.
best wishes
 

Lanolin

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have no idea who his followers are but a good leader wouldnt even have looters and rioters wrecking havoc and be able to prevent that from even happening you would think. in america, it just seems whoever you have in power someones gonna hate them anyway. its just the american way to always rebel.
 

Lanolin

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Most of the mainstream media outlets sympathize with leftist political ideology. So they only make talking points that promote their cause while tearing down their opposition.

Remember when Barrack was president and he enjoyed 8 years of totally positive media coverage? Then they went on to boast he had a scandal-free presidency.

It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy when the same people who tell us how to interpret reality are also the same ones who never say anything bad about who they support. The result in the public eye is that the good and bad people are whoever the media says they are.

It should be for us to use our discerning minds to read between the lines and parse out the truth when the media talks.
I read trumps art of the deal and obamas songs from my father. and also michelles becoming. and her book about gardening the white house.
Trumps art of the deal was actually written by a ghostwriter but he says its his so, well you have to compare what he says with what he does. It was written before he became president as obamas memoir was.

Trump never mentioned any faith in his memoir, it was all about how he was making deals, that he got a kick out of making. when I read it I thought ok, he makes being a con artist sound good. But again, he never mentioned faith, or maybe it was just faith in taking risks and bulldozing his way into power. I dont know. You make up your own mind. I dont think he cares how he looks to others as to him any publicity is good publicity. I think america elects ordinary people to do extraodrinary things but you could elect someone else and let them have a go or gasp...a woman but anyone who doesnt look like themsleves probably doesnt really like whoever is elected.


you are always gonna get that so...just deal with it. I think being on tv might help you (trump was already on the apprentice) because americans are in love with their tv. I expect Martha Stewart to be next.
 

Lanolin

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when JFK was president it was not know to the general public that he was fornicating and having orgies in the white house as those who were indulging were sworn to secrecy. But he kept up the facade for a long time. However tragic events unfolded and you are never certain if it was his downfall or he just had enemies.

the obamas werent involved in anything like that at all and obama was honest about his parentage but people tried to make out like he wasnt even american and all sorts of stuff just cos they didnt like him. I think just take people for what they are, warts and all.

the clintons were actually the most shocking. but its actually quite common for politicans to be liars. Thats nothing new! or they call it being diplomatic.