Some sincere Christians think they have the gift of speaking in tongues

Some since Christians think they have the gift of speaking in tongues, just for their own benefit, as seems to have been the case with the apostle Paul. They don't expect all Christians to have that gift, and so do well in that way. I don't know if God still gives out that gift or not. But in any case, it seems to be quite rare.

Speaking in tongues "other languages" is surely a gift of the Holy Spirit, and He dispenses it as needed to accomplish the work of the Kingdom IMO. It isn't as rare as some think, and it isn't what most today practice either. Reason there needs to be one to translate is that when one speaks in an "other language" from the one he/she are versed in and the congregation is versed in, to avoid confusion and problems, a translator can enlighten all to what is being said.

Look to Acts to see this in practice........

Acts, Chapter 2:

1And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

6Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

7And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?

8And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?

I don't see why we need ANOTHER thread on this topic.

You mean to go with the 11,ooo we already have?

No different than thousands about baptism, osas, predestination, etc....etc.....

revolving door syndrome

What would we do with the warning of the antichrists' in 1st John2 They say a man seen must teach us . Nothing produces nothing. Nothing proves nothing. No evidence

These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him 1 John2:26-27

God does not inspire sounds without meaning that cause people to fall backward under the spirit of judgement . How could he create? By evolution. . Things happen? I think words matter. They can create matter

I’m not biting. 💋

Some teach from this passage that as Peter spoke the other disciples translated what Peter was saying. There were about 15 distinct dialects present at the time of Pentecost and most of these folks would leave Jerusalem after the feasts were completed. They would take with them the gospel in their own language through what happened on the mount that day. Evidence of God building His church according to His determinate will.

Interpreters needed if tongues are in the church today. As observed not generally the case today. Other claims of prayer tongues or angelic tongues are far fetched at best.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

It has always been my understanding about when all the Apostles less Mattiass were speaking, the crowds understood everything they said in their own individual languages. This tells me they were speaking purely in the language of the Holy Spirit and the people were graced to understand.

Check the passages and let me know if this seems possible.

I pray and sometimes praise in another tongue.
I do have interpretation as I speak. It gives much emotion and clarity .

The question becomes is the miracle in the mouth of the speaker or the ears of the hearer?

There does not appear to be a mystical language of the Holy Spirit. In fact we know that the Holy Spirit only speaks what He is given from the Father and that to lead believers into the truth of Gods word.

God is building His church here are Jerusalem and into the uttermost parts of the earth.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

I think true tongues is quite rare because of a lack of understanding of it. Although i cannot judge because I had and still do have quite a lack of understanding of it so much so I had no idea God was using me in this gift without my knowledge . Granted I did not speak an unknown language with a tongue of fire but it seems there is more than one kind of tongues a spoken word and written word.
I am a writer at heart and so I write Christian poems but when I write them the words just flow I don't think I just write, I was unaware of course that this is in fact a form of tongues.

If the gift of tongues is not used for the purpose it is given then I see no point in seeking it or even believing one can have it, anything spoken by the actual gift will have power in it no matter what anyone claims and honestly I do wonder how many even here in cc who say anyone can have the gift actually knows the gift. Because it doesn't seem that just anyone can have it or walk in it and if anyone can have it then I suppose maybe they just have not grown into it yet.

Tongues is not random babble or even just speaking in another language, the fruits it produces is the deciding factor so personally if I encounter tongues if there is no power in it if no fruits are produced then it is spoken in vain. And everyone acts as if tongues is more important or more special than the other gifts but it isn't because they are all of his spirit for the purpose of edifying guiding strengthening and encouraging the church no one gift is more important than the other if they all serve the same purpose.

for those who think they speak tongues I think it would be wise to honestly without prejudice look at and ask themselves what the tongues they speak actually produces. Does it bear fruit in others? does it bear fruit in themselves? are they speaking from their own conceived actions thoughts and words or is it by the flow of the spirit like a river that you cannot control?

I don't think anyone is arguing that the Holy Spirit has a special language. But in the context of the gifts of the Spirit Paul reminds us that love is central to His activity in our lives:
"If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal"
(1 Cor 13:1)

So "the tongues of angels" would be a better way to put it. There are actual languages that already exist but are not known to mankind. That's why Paul said in 2 Cor 12 that he "heard inexpressible words, which a man is not permitted to speak". He heard languages that are unknown to us (unless they are translated).

Does anyone here know by experience when the Holy Spirit has spoken to them_ Have your heard words in English, French, Spanish, Chinese, or any other language_ Perhaps at times but when given instructions by the Holy Spirit in the past it came not in words and now with sound but it came.
When I repented of this world and age, all turned to light, and the Light entered into me with a message, not in words but understood assuring me everything is going to be just fine.
On occasion the gift of knowledge has come into my mind from the Lord while sharing the Word in order to demonstrate to a specific hearer that what was shared with him or her wa authentic.
None of the aforementioned was generated by any personal ability but given as needed while bein a willing vessel of our Savior, Jesus=Yeshua. And so it goes.

I dont think I received the gift of tonges?

43 years ago I received the gift, and its exactly the same today

Attention?

Do not be put out by any subject of the Word being repeated for there will always be new seekers in the forum, and they do not ordinarily read all of the back posts in the forum. You know.

Yes, but it becomes more complicatet if they claim that the gift of speaking in tongues is combined with the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Or pot-stirring, perhaps.

There ARE people who claim to have this marvelous gift when they really don't.

I went to a church service because I was told speaking in tongues was part of the service. Someone got up and spoke in a strange tongue. Someone else got up and interpreted it saying it was "the death of the children". I never went back to that church.

I have prayed to receive it and haven't been given the gift, although twice I have encountered angels and could communicate with them without sound. Perhaps that is like the gift of tongues.

You were uncomfortable. That's understandable, but in no way is that evidence that it was not biblical tongues. In fact, in light of 1 Corinthians 14:23, it supports the idea that you weren't a believer at the time!

How would non-auditory communication be like biblical tongues, which are recorded as spoken and heard?