BLM (Black Lives Matter) is a type of Baal worship.

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Jackson123

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Don't kneel to anyone ever.
The "black or dark Christ" is Baal, Baal was an African idol/demon worshiped by pagans, this same demon in Egypt was worshiped in the form of Seth, Anubis, etc.
See the Wikipedia article on Baal, and you will see that the gesture of the outstretched arm and closed hand is the same as done by the statue of Baal, as do the Black Lives Matter, communists, Afro groups, etc., all of whom love this same demon.
As is known, the Hebrews were light-skinned, and Jesus certainly also was light-skinned, although I do not believe he had light brown/blond hair and blue eyes, it is very likely that he looked like a typical Jewish and Syrian today, see the appearance of Solomon :
"My beloved [is] white and pink; he is the first among ten thousand.
His head [is like] the most refined gold, his hair is curly, black as a raven."
Song of Solomon 5:10-11
BLM pretending to work for black/African American to get sympathy from black. But it is political organization to overthrow legal government.
 

JaumeJ

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Where do people get off saying baal is an African false god. The baalim, plural for baal, simply means lords. They have been elevated to gods and idols historically, but there is no one of them named baal.

Labels, labels, and more labels put on that which is not understood.. It is common for a person who follows Yeshua to be labeled communist or red simply because he or she wishes to help any needy people without looking to see who it may be.
Anyone who is a conscientious steward of his processions may easily be labeled a materialist or republican.
Then there are the denominational labels, so favored by so many who frequent this forum.
These people are deaf dumb and blind forgetting we are to love all people. If what they seem is not acceptable then those who cannot accept it should revert to the teaching of judging with right judgments and never by appearances only. Love your enemy, but do not pray for their wrong/doing lest you be guilty of their sin also.
As for BLM, let us keep the rumors and tall tales out of the Bible forum for the foundation for this movement is based on the horrendous, callous murder of a man pleading "I can-t breathe, " and " good/bye Mom." Do not make this crime even worse by condemning the many innocents' who protest this very wrong deed, or you are praying for their sin.
 

gb9

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Where do people get off saying baal is an African false god. The baalim, plural for baal, simply means lords. They have been elevated to gods and idols historically, but there is no one of them named baal.

Labels, labels, and more labels put on that which is not understood.. It is common for a person who follows Yeshua to be labeled communist or red simply because he or she wishes to help any needy people without looking to see who it may be.
Anyone who is a conscientious steward of his processions may easily be labeled a materialist or republican.
Then there are the denominational labels, so favored by so many who frequent this forum.
These people are deaf dumb and blind forgetting we are to love all people. If what they seem is not acceptable then those who cannot accept it should revert to the teaching of judging with right judgments and never by appearances only. Love your enemy, but do not pray for their wrong/doing lest you be guilty of their sin also.
As for BLM, let us keep the rumors and tall tales out of the Bible forum for the foundation for this movement is based on the horrendous, callous murder of a man pleading "I can-t breathe, " and " good/bye Mom." Do not make this crime even worse by condemning the many innocents' who protest this very wrong deed, or you are praying for their sin.
here is a few things black lives matter believes-

" we make space for transgender brothers and sisters to lead"

they call each other " comrade "



" we work to dismantle cisgender privilege and uplift black trans people"

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"we disrupt the nuclear family."

and, blm was founded by 3 lesbians who admit to being marxist.

so, this has what to do with bad cops???
 
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Black lives already mattered to all white abolitionists and to any decent individual since and especially if Christian. End of discussion!
Black lives matter
So do all other lives.

Unfortunately the name "blm" is not associated with actual black lives or any lives mattering.
It is a leftist communist deep state cloak for hatred racism and terrorists.
 
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Black lives already mattered to all white abolitionists and to any decent individual since and especially if Christian. End of discussion!
My point was that the organization is founded on baloney and is USING RACE as a cloak.

Then you turn around and get on some racial deal.
Wow
 

posthuman

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Can i be confident all of you are speaking from knowledge, having been part of these protests yourselves, seen and spoken to the people who are affected and understood their grievances personally?

And that none of you are merely repeating incindiary conspiratorial right wing propaganda you have read?
 

gb9

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Can i be confident all of you are speaking from knowledge, having been part of these protests yourselves, seen and spoken to the people who are affected and understood their grievances personally?

And that none of you are merely repeating incindiary conspiratorial right wing propaganda you have read?
the things that i put in quotes in my earlier posts were straight from the blm website.

you can read their beliefs , they are not shy about them.
 
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Can i be confident all of you are speaking from knowledge, having been part of these protests yourselves, seen and spoken to the people who are affected and understood their grievances personally?

And that none of you are merely repeating incindiary conspiratorial right wing propaganda you have read?
Lol
Antifa and blm are in some insane hater mindset.
Their hate is overwheming.
Their mission is antichrist
They are violent and destructive.
They are insane.

You positioning yourself in that camp?
 
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Play it out.

Burning and looting is ok?

Burn Down the entire nation.
Kill and rob all the white people.

Then what?
 

JaumeJ

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Can i be confident all of you are speaking from knowledge, having been part of these protests yourselves, seen and spoken to the people who are affected and understood their grievances personally?

And that none of you are merely repeating incendiary conspiratorial right wing propaganda you have read?
This rumor factory is busier than ever. Let us put this fable on the past conspiracy hystericals who pushed wmd causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands, and the weaponized virus from China. If China waged war on anyone they would not need to resort to such science fiction.

The world is demonstrating just how much they have loved untruths, that is to say, lies. According to the Word this is due to the fact they have loved evil and discarded good.

Just another indication of just how late it is getting on our Father-s calendar.
 

SoulWeaver

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My point was that the organization is founded on baloney and is USING RACE as a cloak.

Then you turn around and get on some racial deal.
Wow
I think you didn't understand my point, I wasn't defending blm I was basically saying they didn't have copyright on black lives mattering because people talk as if BLM invented the wheel, but nevermind
 
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Can i be confident all of you are speaking from knowledge, having been part of these protests yourselves, seen and spoken to the people who are affected and understood their grievances personally?

And that none of you are merely repeating incindiary conspiratorial right wing propaganda you have read?
I had a conversation with a BLM member who told me that they stage events designed to increase white guilt.(her words). They need 200 more years of white guilt to accomplish their goal. I was a bit taken back that there was no sense of wrong about doing that.
 
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Can i be confident all of you are speaking from knowledge, having been part of these protests yourselves, seen and spoken to the people who are affected and understood their grievances personally?

And that none of you are merely repeating incindiary conspiratorial right wing propaganda you have read?
I’m too busy working with BLM in the streets of Southside Chicago to answer your question. Oh wait, no I’m not because BLM is nowhere to be found in the Black on Black war zone of the Windy City.
 
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Can i be confident all of you are speaking from knowledge, having been part of these protests yourselves, seen and spoken to the people who are affected and understood their grievances personally?

And that none of you are merely repeating incindiary conspiratorial right wing propaganda you have read?
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Post,
what's your 'take on all of the BS'??? hub and I would love to hear it...
:):)
 

soggykitten

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If there is some kind of club or movement called BM , I am not a member, however Black lives do matter for all who love their neighbors, brothers and sisters, and fellow man in general.

Just as I could never be a republican, a democrat a communist or any other club designed by the imagination of men. Yet, many of what makes me in this age follows the teachings of the Master Who teaches all to follow the good points of all of these clubs...which are not many.
All lives matter. Not just the black ones, as BLM likes to claim but fails to prove by their own actions.
 

Yahshua

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If there is some kind of club or movement called BM , I am not a member, however Black lives do matter for all who love their neighbors, brothers and sisters, and fellow man in general.

Just as I could never be a republican, a democrat a communist or any other club designed by the imagination of men. Yet, many of what makes me in this age follows the teachings of the Master Who teaches all to follow the good points of all of these clubs...which are not many.
Agreed. I'm not sure if I read it on this thread or another (or when) but someone said that the Messiah would be considered a communist by today's standards. Dare I personally say, an anarchist ("first will be last, and last will be first").

So how can a believer be part of any of these groups (right, left, rep, dem, BLM, KKK) and also a true follower of the Messiah? At some point, there's going to be a real conflict with the Messiah's way of walking in this life.
 

Yahshua

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All lives matter. Not just the black ones, as BLM likes to claim but fails to prove by their own actions.
I've never heard it said or officially written that BLM believes "only" black lives matter, but that it's in the context of police mistreatment. But your post brings to mind an interesting perspective on a topic we've covered a few times on this forum...

The USA sends billions to the State of Israel each year in the form of foreign (taxpayer) aid, as well as freewill donations through Christian organizations AND church offerings because Christians are taught that the Jewish people are "God's chosen people".


This is completely free money given to a group that is, in fact:

- The LGBT capital of the world
- Studies the Babylonian Talmud (which actually can be traced back to Ba'al worship)
- The size of the state of New Jersey (which amounts to roughly $50-$60K in free handouts/welfare per person per year).
- On the whole, completely mocks and rejects the Messiah and His covenant


...again, these are verifiable facts.

But because of their race, they are given this special treatment by the Christian world and USA. And in the conflicts between Israelis and Palestinians, it would seem that to us "only" Jewish lives matter between the two groups (nevermind the decades of violations of basic human rights for the Arabs by the Israeli government, and nevermind that some of the very first Messiah-believing Christians living in the land were Arabs who are currently treated no differently than Muslim Arabs by the Israelis).


Do all lives truly matter equally? Because if they do, why the difference in treatment & sentiment when it comes to one ethnic group over another and another, whether here in the states or abroad?



I'm not asking you this directly, just providing food for thought on this thread.
 

soggykitten

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I've never heard it said or officially written that BLM believes "only" black lives matter, but that it's in the context of police mistreatment. But your post brings to mind an interesting perspective on a topic we've covered a few times on this forum...

The USA sends billions to the State of Israel each year in the form of foreign (taxpayer) aid, as well as freewill donations through Christian organizations AND church offerings because Christians are taught that the Jewish people are "God's chosen people".


This is completely free money given to a group that is, in fact:

- The LGBT capital of the world
- Studies the Babylonian Talmud (which actually can be traced back to Ba'al worship)
- The size of the state of New Jersey (which amounts to roughly $50-$60K in free handouts/welfare per person per year).
- On the whole, completely mocks and rejects the Messiah and His covenant


...again, these are verifiable facts.

But because of their race, they are given this special treatment by the Christian world and USA. And in the conflicts between Israelis and Palestinians, it would seem that to us "only" Jewish lives matter between the two groups (nevermind the decades of violations of basic human rights for the Arabs by the Israeli government, and nevermind that some of the very first Messiah-believing Christians living in the land were Arabs who are currently treated no differently than Muslim Arabs by the Israelis).


Do all lives truly matter equally? Because if they do, why the difference in treatment & sentiment when it comes to one ethnic group over another and another, whether here in the states or abroad?



I'm not asking you this directly, just providing food for thought on this thread.
All lives matter. For me, there is no equivocation.

I appreciate you clarifying you are not addressing your remarks specifically to me, even though you quoted my prior post before making them.

I left your posting thinking not to respond. Then I thought, what if someone thinks the reason for my being quite, again since you quoted me even though you said you do not direct your remarks to me personally, is because you're right?
I don't know your sources for your beliefs about Jews and Israel. You've posted no evidence to support your remarks. I'll take a few of the bullet points you made and address those. Because I think if they're left as is, it would be my responsibility for not correcting the error in them.
I actually wonder if you get your information from Esautoday.

Jew is not a race. http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/jewsnotrace.htm

America has not supported Israel for over thirty years because we are a Christian nation. There are very good international security reasons and others, for why America supports Israel. One has but to look at a world map and locate Israel there to see what they're up against as a Jewish State.
https://ips-dc.org/why_the_us_supports_israel/

The Babylonian Talmud today has not a thing to do with Baal worship.
https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca/handle/1807/73647

As a matter of fact, idolatry departed anything pertaining to Judaism after the Jews were freed from captivity in Babylon. Made captive after being captured from their former kingdom of Judah. https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca/handle/1807/73647

Furthermore, if you own a Bible you'll need realize that it contains many books that are taken from the Babylonian Talmud. Ruth, Psalms, Job, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon, Lamentations of Jeremiah, Daniel, Esther, Ezra, and the Book of Chronicles.

Implying Baal worship is in any way related to the Babylonian Talmud indicts those books of the Christian's Old Testament.

If we're actually talking about a LGBT capital of the world, that would be Bangkok Thailand. Not Israel. Tel Aviv would fall second to Bangkok.

That is all I have to say.
 
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There exists many many Christians who consider the modern state of Israel as just another secular state.

Some of us don't buy into the hype.