Trump Outsmarts them again

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Fact check in our modern upside down own nation is not verifying facts.

It is all relative to party.

On the Democrat side facts ccx are lethal to their agenda.

They would cease to be in absence of deception.
 

cv5

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How did they "fact check "it?
Even the so called fact checking sites have been debunked as being objective lol.
This falling world simply cannot stop lying it's in their nature. We are wading hip deep in lies 24-7.
In my humble opinion it is the liberal democratic MSM which are the worst offenders.
 
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This is not true. It has already been debunked by several independent fact checking sites. I would post the links but I am learning that people do not care about facts. To most people a fact checking site is bias and a social media meme is fact.

What's not true, the man got on the news, told about his mother and lied? Why? It's happened here locally a woman just said two people she knew never got tested but were sent letters saying they were positive. One whole town came out as positive. It definitely is happening. Why would people trust fact checking sites when they can see what's going on with their own eyes? smh
 

cv5

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Oh,oh,oh fake news strikes again. Not so mon amie.




Actually, the way the rust belt voted for him,I rather think it was people who knew what socialism was and didn't want it in the country. But who knows? I know one thing though, admitting you're a Trump voter is akin to saying you're a card carrying member of the KKK. Nobody is going to admit they are voting for him till they are alone in the booth. It was bad the first time for "deplorables" now we're Nazis. Time will tell.
Hillary hated conservative Christian America. Then they kicked her to the curb. And there she will stay forever lol.
 
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This is not true. It has already been debunked by several independent fact checking sites. I would post the links but I am learning that people do not care about facts. To most people a fact checking site is bias and a social media meme is fact.
Agree, my nephew is a specialist physician in Dallas, works in a large hospital... they are so accountable for every act and test and are called to task for anything outside of standard protocol.
 

PennEd

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What's not true, the man got on the news, told about his mother and lied? Why? It's happened here locally a woman just said two people she knew never got tested but were sent letters saying they were positive. One whole town came out as positive. It definitely is happening. Why would people trust fact checking sites when they can see what's going on with their own eyes? smh
Flaw in Manufacturer’s Testing System For Coronavirus Used by Labs Across the US Causing False Positives
By Cristina Laila
Published July 20, 2020 at 9:08pm

A flaw in a manufacturer’s Coronavirus testing system used by labs across the US are causing false positives.
Department of Public Health scientists in Connecticut discovered the flaw in the testing system manufactured by Thermo Fisher Scientific.
According to DPH scientists, the affected patients were tested between July 15 to July 17 and out of a total of 144 ‘positive’ tests, 90 were false positives!
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Scientists at Connecticut’s public health laboratory say they’ve discovered a flaw in a manufacturer’s testing system for the coronavirus that’s used by labs around the country. So far, it’s resulted in 90 people – mostly residents of Connecticut nursing homes and assisted living facilities – recently receiving false positive tests.

State public health officials are now reviewing whether nursing home residents who received false positive tests were grouped with other residents with accurate positive tests, given the state’s recommendation to cohort nursing home residents who test positive for COVID-19.

“We don’t know that yet,” said Josh Geballe, Gov. Ned Lamont’s chief operating officer, noting that a team from the state’s Department of Public Health has been reaching out to every clinician responsible for those individuals, as well as the facilities where they live, and compiling data on the situation.
 
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How did they "fact check "it?
That data is usually cited at the fact checking sites. It is usually specific to the misinformation being posted. For example if someone claims that their grandmother got tested 15 times and each case was counted as a separate count and reported to the national database a call to that Hospital can verify if that is true. So the answer as to how they fact check is varied based on the specific claim.


For example below is a quote from a Dr. at one location where the question was asked about how they record these additional tests on the same person.

"Another theory about the rapid spike in new cases is that, at the state level, every test is being counted as a new case. It has been suggested that a single person who gets multiple tests will have each of those positive tests counted as a new case.

KPEL News reached out to the Louisiana Department of Health Office of Public Health Region 4 Medical Director Dr. Tina Stefanski with this simple question:

Do multiple positive tests for the same person add to the case count every time?

We got a quick response from Dr. Stefanski:

While individuals may be tested multiple times (and in some instances are positive over many days so may have more than one positive test result), our method only acknowledges the case ONCE. There is a review process to identify and remove duplicate lab reports.

Another question we're getting is, "Do our state case counts include results from antibody testing?" That answer is no.

The case counts that you see reported daily on the LDH dashboard are individual cases and only reflect positive viral tests.

Back on June 19th, LDH adjusted down the number of statewide cases by about 1,600 due to some duplicate data. Sources tell KPEL News that the new process for counting cases has been put into place to ensure there are no duplicate test results.

If you have a question you want to be answered, send an email to [email protected].
 
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Hillary hated conservative Christian America. Then they kicked her to the curb. And there she will stay forever lol.
Bidens backers hate us more. Bubble headed communist AOC, anti- Semites Omar and Rashid and I don't even remember the other ones name. All of them are riding old uncle Joe all the way to the WH unless we wake up and put a stop to it. Heaven help us if that man gets in office. They'll be flying the red flag over the WH the next day. They can't wait to tell him what the agenda is. And when Bernie walks in the door ol Joe will jump up and give him the oval office. It's stunning to me that a person could claim to be a Christian and vote Dem after seeing all they have in store. Stunned.
 
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Oh,oh,oh fake news strikes again. Not so mon amie.




Actually, the way the rust belt voted for him,I rather think it was people who knew what socialism was and didn't want it in the country. But who knows? I know one thing though, admitting you're a Trump voter is akin to saying you're a card carrying member of the KKK. Nobody is going to admit they are voting for him till they are alone in the booth. It was bad the first time for "deplorables" now we're Nazis. Time will tell.
 

posthuman

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You defend democrats who openly hate God and Christians, and you wonder why you’re unpopular in the news section.
You are lying.

Go read again every post I have made in this thread. I have not defended any political party, on the contrary I've been consistently trying to warn you all not to make yourselves part of any of that worldly partisanship and to be careful not to let yourselves be bought by them.

Look how far from the thread topic you all are now! See how you all falsely accuse everyone who doesn't join you in your partisan divisions! You think you are being spiritual? You are being worldly!
 

cv5

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Bidens backers hate us more. Bubble headed communist AOC, anti- Semites Omar and Rashid and I don't even remember the other ones name. All of them are riding old uncle Joe all the way to the WH unless we wake up and put a stop to it. Heaven help us if that man gets in office. They'll be flying the red flag over the WH the next day. They can't wait to tell him what the agenda is. And when Bernie walks in the door ol Joe will jump up and give him the oval office. It's stunning to me that a person could claim to be a Christian and vote Dem after seeing all they have in store. Stunned.
Biden is the ultimate empty suit. He stands for nothing and falls for everything. He would sell his own grannies gold teeth for a few more votes. Whatever the situation is his ethics will follow. He sold his soul to Satan, is going to hell and is going to drag as many down there with him as possible, The entire country if he can make it happen.
 
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Mistakes happen.
Flaw in Manufacturer’s Testing System For Coronavirus Used by Labs Across the US Causing False Positives
By Cristina Laila
Published July 20, 2020 at 9:08pm

A flaw in a manufacturer’s Coronavirus testing system used by labs across the US are causing false positives.
Department of Public Health scientists in Connecticut discovered the flaw in the testing system manufactured by Thermo Fisher Scientific.
According to DPH scientists, the affected patients were tested between July 15 to July 17 and out of a total of 144 ‘positive’ tests, 90 were false positives!
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Scientists at Connecticut’s public health laboratory say they’ve discovered a flaw in a manufacturer’s testing system for the coronavirus that’s used by labs around the country. So far, it’s resulted in 90 people – mostly residents of Connecticut nursing homes and assisted living facilities – recently receiving false positive tests.

State public health officials are now reviewing whether nursing home residents who received false positive tests were grouped with other residents with accurate positive tests, given the state’s recommendation to cohort nursing home residents who test positive for COVID-19.

“We don’t know that yet,” said Josh Geballe, Gov. Ned Lamont’s chief operating officer, noting that a team from the state’s Department of Public Health has been reaching out to every clinician responsible for those individuals, as well as the facilities where they live, and compiling data on the situation.
Mistakes happen, they get discovered. They get corrected. These things are bound to happen considering the massive amount of activity and efforts going on to record and report. These mistakes that have been reported do not skew the numbers. The WHAT IFS are not probable what ifs. So looking at only the provable data these mistakes don't change the over all picture.
 

cv5

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You are lying.

Go read again every post I have made in this thread. I have not defended any political party, on the contrary I've been consistently trying to warn you all not to make yourselves part of any of that worldly partisanship and to be careful not to let yourselves be bought by them.

Look how far from the thread topic you all are now! See how you all falsely accuse everyone who doesn't join you in your partisan divisions! You think you are being spiritual? You are being worldly!
I certainly agree with you about partisanship. But to vote into office people who actually hate America, and have openly declared for its destruction is just plain crazy.
 

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This is old news and it has already been changed. They are not bypassing CDC and data is still public and not being controlled by Whitehouse. The data collections systems are being switched for better technology. CDC is not in a war with the White house to control data. Trump had nothing to do with the decision to use the better technology and this is not politically motivated.
This is from July 15, has it changed since then?

https://www.axios.com/white-house-t...ata-c34776b3-2797-447e-a926-bcfcb254cd05.html
 
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Yes the data systems it gets reported to are better and the CDC is going to be reporting from those systems. It is more of a transition of technology and it has been spinned by some to make it seem like a political rift between Trump and the CDC because.. well that's what liars do. The change is not because the White house did not trust the data being reported on CDC website. This seems to be the spin in some of the early news reports. Then some of the Democrats were upset and trying to suggest that the Whitehouse wanted to control the data as if it would not be made public until they had manipulated it. None of this was true and the data is still going to be just as public and accessible as it was before. So My point is that Trump was not making any political moves with this as the OP suggest.
 
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That data is usually cited at the fact checking sites. It is usually specific to the misinformation being posted. For example if someone claims that their grandmother got tested 15 times and each case was counted as a separate count and reported to the national database a call to that Hospital can verify if that is true. So the answer as to how they fact check is varied based on the specific claim.


For example below is a quote from a Dr. at one location where the question was asked about how they record these additional tests on the same person.

"Another theory about the rapid spike in new cases is that, at the state level, every test is being counted as a new case. It has been suggested that a single person who gets multiple tests will have each of those positive tests counted as a new case.

KPEL News reached out to the Louisiana Department of Health Office of Public Health Region 4 Medical Director Dr. Tina Stefanski with this simple question:

Do multiple positive tests for the same person add to the case count every time?

We got a quick response from Dr. Stefanski:

While individuals may be tested multiple times (and in some instances are positive over many days so may have more than one positive test result), our method only acknowledges the case ONCE. There is a review process to identify and remove duplicate lab reports.

Another question we're getting is, "Do our state case counts include results from antibody testing?" That answer is no.

The case counts that you see reported daily on the LDH dashboard are individual cases and only reflect positive viral tests.

Back on June 19th, LDH adjusted down the number of statewide cases by about 1,600 due to some duplicate data. Sources tell KPEL News that the new process for counting cases has been put into place to ensure there are no duplicate test results.

If you have a question you want to be answered, send an email to [email protected].
Now many people will say that the Dr. Stefanski is lying. That she is secretly meeting with Bill Gates and Global Billionaires in a room in a penthouse in Manhattan and they are eating sacrificed babies for lunch and planning their headquarter on the dark side of the moon where they will track all the people with the virus vaccine they will be injecting into them by law under threat of beheading for refusing the vaccine.

But I am more inclined to believe the Dr. is telling us the truth. :)