My take on water baptism...

water baptism...

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For those interested you can find a short study on baptism in water Here

I use my phone for this and it very hard to read the study that way. I am interested in what it says because what I cod read of it was interesting. Is there another format that I could access it?
I'm not to tech savvy either so I hope you understand my meaning.

Its exactly what it is a work . We are not saved or reckoned as saved by the things we do.

Why do you think the question came up in John 3:25?

Its not a new testament foundation .Its used in the new but the foundation is in the old under the Leviticus law .It applies today if a person has a desire to become a member of the priesthood .No outward sign to confirm a person is a believer. Again no such thing as sign gift in that way .I did it that confirms.

There is a Word doc format which is in the link "Microsoft Word" in a zip file which may display better on a phone, the pdf file will be far easier to read on a tablet, laptop or desktop if you have one...

Gaslighting ain't gonna work here

There's no gaslighting here. You don't just say I disagree or I believe different. You say I'm a false teacher. Others on here and maybe you too say I have a devil and attack me personally. Some say I'm a heretic. The only thing I have not yet been called here is a bastard child. Yeah that's Pharisees style stuff.

That's a fact. Historically if someone claims their spiritual experience is from God but refuses to be Baptized then their spiritual experience is considered to not be from God. The desire for Baptism as you said confirms that person's spiritual experience is from God.

So you are saying water baptism is necessary for salvation?

i think if someone refuses baptism then the status of their salvation/condemnation has a lot more to do with why they are refusing baptism than it does the actual lack of baptism.

like a lot of things, the crux is in the heart, not the hands & feet

ok admit it you just dont wanna get wet. Maybe its hydrophobia or something. If Jesus got dunked in the Jordan even though John the baptist wasnt that keen on baptising him, whats to stop us?

I propose everyone brings water bombs to church on Sunday. Even the newly converted eunuch was saying heres water, can any man forbid baptism? He already had the holy spirit. see acts 10:47

But His disciples did, as the same verse tells you. Not sure what your point was, but Christ would baptize with the Holy Ghost, not with water. And that could not happen until He had ascended on high and poured out the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost.

It is significant that when Peter preached the Gospel on that day, he made it clear that anyone who repented and believed must be baptized immediately. Thus those 3,000 people who were saved were also baptized by immersion the same day. And that was the apostolic pattern throughout the book of Acts. Again when Peter preached the Gospel in the household of Cornelius, those who received the baptism WITH the Holy Ghost (indeed all who believed) were baptized immediately. In fact Peter COMMANDED that they be baptized, and he was simply following the commandment of the Lord (Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:15,16).

The commandment for believers to be baptized has never been rescinded, but Peterlag (who started this thread) is now trying to promote that false teaching. There are also many Hyper- or Ultra-Dispensationalists who claim that Christian baptism is no longer necessary, since Spirit baptism is all that is required. But that is FALSE DOCTRINE.

Water baptism is not an option, but a commandment. It does not wash away sins, but it produces a good conscience toward God. That the believer has immediately obeyed Christ, and this is his or her first act of obedience. There is of course, much more to believer's baptism as taught by Paul.

Because they don't want their assurance of their salvation, to be based on that work?

I'm not sure what your point is but salvation means total obedience to Christ. And since water baptism is His commandment, it must be obeyed accordingly. So if a person refuses or rejects Christian baptism, it is more than likely that he or she is not even saved. No one in the book of Acts ever refused to be baptized.

Baptism is definitely a public way of saying that you stand for Christ. And if you publicly stand for Christ then He said He will privately stand for you before the Father.

But also, baptism signifies the way Gods People were delivered from Egypt, from slavery. They walked through the Red Sea. Our baptism in water signifies our spiritual deliverance from Egypt and slavery to sin.

This water baptism doesn't have the actual power to deliver us from our slavery to sin, but it is our own public proclamation that this has happened, is happening, or our desire for it to happen.