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i would like to point out -- that not one single jot or tittle of the law - not even the temple ordinances or the sacrifices associated with every sabbath and every feast, nor the everlasting covenant of salt making Levi the only priest, nor circumcision, nor any other thing in Moses, has to pass away in order for a dead man to be completely unaccountable to any and all of it.
this is salvation, friend @Batyah
it is through His death and resurrection that we have eternal life. He is perfect.
this is salvation, friend @Batyah
it is through His death and resurrection that we have eternal life. He is perfect.
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i believe in Exodus 16, before they are given the covenant and its law, He gives them manna and a weekly sabbath in order to test/prove them, and that they failed. i.e. something about them was demonstrated.
after this He gives them a covenant.
i do not believe the covenant and its law which He gave them is unrelated to what was demonstrated about them in Exodus 16. in fact i believe He gave them a very specific covenant and law directly and intrinsically related to what they said and thought and did as He took them out of Egypt. remember, from the beginning they were accusing Him of being a murderer and a liar.
do you know, what is the corresponding event in Christ's ministry to this proving, and subsequent giving of a new covenant and new commandment? why and how that the law came through Moses, and grace and truth through the Messiah?
after this He gives them a covenant.
i do not believe the covenant and its law which He gave them is unrelated to what was demonstrated about them in Exodus 16. in fact i believe He gave them a very specific covenant and law directly and intrinsically related to what they said and thought and did as He took them out of Egypt. remember, from the beginning they were accusing Him of being a murderer and a liar.
do you know, what is the corresponding event in Christ's ministry to this proving, and subsequent giving of a new covenant and new commandment? why and how that the law came through Moses, and grace and truth through the Messiah?
Yes.. some do.. Not all..
Yes.
No. I believe Jesus was executed on a Wednesday..
No.. There is no call in the Bible to celebrate the birthday of Jesus and also the actual day is not known by men..
No..
No..
No..
I believe the church began the moment the Holy Spirit entered into the apostles on the day of Pentecost.
He was the beginning of the Hebrew nation.. of which the Jews ( tribe of Judah ) was a part.
No..
I believe Jesus death removed the penalty of the Law from those who believe Him and trust in the atonement Jesus secured on the cross..
Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy..
(Revelation 1:10) "I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,"
The Lord's Day..
Three 24 hr periods..
I don't know..
It does not instruct when to as far as i know..
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He said they would do many signs.. But that they would Love each other..
God does not have a name.. He has acceptable titles.. Of which LORD is one..
That Jesus is the Son of God who came down to lay down His life as a sacrifice as the perfect and unblemished Lamb of God.. His death paid the penalty that was upon all people who believe Him and Trust in that atonement he provides to Redeem them..
Yes.
No. I believe Jesus was executed on a Wednesday..
No.. There is no call in the Bible to celebrate the birthday of Jesus and also the actual day is not known by men..
No..
No..
No..
I believe the church began the moment the Holy Spirit entered into the apostles on the day of Pentecost.
He was the beginning of the Hebrew nation.. of which the Jews ( tribe of Judah ) was a part.
No..
I believe Jesus death removed the penalty of the Law from those who believe Him and trust in the atonement Jesus secured on the cross..
Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy..
(Revelation 1:10) "I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,"
The Lord's Day..
Three 24 hr periods..
I don't know..
It does not instruct when to as far as i know..
66
He said they would do many signs.. But that they would Love each other..
God does not have a name.. He has acceptable titles.. Of which LORD is one..
That Jesus is the Son of God who came down to lay down His life as a sacrifice as the perfect and unblemished Lamb of God.. His death paid the penalty that was upon all people who believe Him and Trust in that atonement he provides to Redeem them..
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1. Yes
2. Yes
3. I'm not sure what day it was
4. I believe Christians are free to celebrate Jesus birthday any time of the year. It is a wonderful truth that Jesus came for us.
5. Yes, Jesus resurrection is something to be celebrated always and not just on Easter. Easter is a day many come to church more and thus and opportunity for more to come to faith in Christ.
6. I believe each day is special. Life is a miracle. In Heaven , God's will is done each day. On earth there is good and evil that happens each day. When Jesus comes back, he will make things right again and the earth will be new.
7. I don't know how old the earth. I don't see the age of the earth as a core Christian doctrine.
8. I believe the church was forming long before the events of the book of Acts. I believe the church was forming even in the Old Testament.
9. Yes
10. I believe people who are openly gay and practicing should be allowed to sing and serve each other in the church but I would geel uncomfortable with them preaching/teaching.
11. I don't know what you mean by the OT law made void. I believe we should love God and love people. That is the main thing. The dietary laws in Leviticus promote a healthy diet and the Sabbath a day of rest. Both rest and a good diet are good and healthy. Both the dietary laws and Sabbath are great principles for health.
12. Honor your Father and Mother?
13. Not sure
14. Jesus rose again on the third day. I'm not sure how the 3rd day was measured. Jesus rose again and his body " did not see decay. "
17. 66
18. Our love for one another
19. God is known by many names: Savior, Lord, Jesus, Father, Holy Spirit, Counselor, God Almighty etc. I would love to know his name that he spoke to Moses in the burning bush.
20. Jesus came for us all. He died on the cross to pay for our sins and rose again the third day. Believe on the Lord Jesus, receive him and trust in Jesus to be your Savior. Salvation is by grace through faith in Christ and not something we can earn or lose.
2. Yes
3. I'm not sure what day it was
4. I believe Christians are free to celebrate Jesus birthday any time of the year. It is a wonderful truth that Jesus came for us.
5. Yes, Jesus resurrection is something to be celebrated always and not just on Easter. Easter is a day many come to church more and thus and opportunity for more to come to faith in Christ.
6. I believe each day is special. Life is a miracle. In Heaven , God's will is done each day. On earth there is good and evil that happens each day. When Jesus comes back, he will make things right again and the earth will be new.
7. I don't know how old the earth. I don't see the age of the earth as a core Christian doctrine.
8. I believe the church was forming long before the events of the book of Acts. I believe the church was forming even in the Old Testament.
9. Yes
10. I believe people who are openly gay and practicing should be allowed to sing and serve each other in the church but I would geel uncomfortable with them preaching/teaching.
11. I don't know what you mean by the OT law made void. I believe we should love God and love people. That is the main thing. The dietary laws in Leviticus promote a healthy diet and the Sabbath a day of rest. Both rest and a good diet are good and healthy. Both the dietary laws and Sabbath are great principles for health.
12. Honor your Father and Mother?
13. Not sure
14. Jesus rose again on the third day. I'm not sure how the 3rd day was measured. Jesus rose again and his body " did not see decay. "
17. 66
18. Our love for one another
19. God is known by many names: Savior, Lord, Jesus, Father, Holy Spirit, Counselor, God Almighty etc. I would love to know his name that he spoke to Moses in the burning bush.
20. Jesus came for us all. He died on the cross to pay for our sins and rose again the third day. Believe on the Lord Jesus, receive him and trust in Jesus to be your Savior. Salvation is by grace through faith in Christ and not something we can earn or lose.
Hey @Batyah,
I took your questions, did a little modification to them and we all answered them individually it in our bi-weekly quasi-Bible study last night. It worked out really well. It was a great change of pace. Thanks for the idea. Cool thing was that everyone had different answers for the death/resurrection questions. So we decided that was going to be the focus of our next series that we're going to go into.
I took your questions, did a little modification to them and we all answered them individually it in our bi-weekly quasi-Bible study last night. It worked out really well. It was a great change of pace. Thanks for the idea. Cool thing was that everyone had different answers for the death/resurrection questions. So we decided that was going to be the focus of our next series that we're going to go into.
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Yes, it does, and, yes, it's well beyond what any member should have to provide to any other member here...... IF someone wants to learn about others, they can invest the time in reading comments/Threads, speaking with other members and growing in knowledge of those here on CC. NOT issue an APPLICATION to be filled out.
It's like some Denominations do when deciding IF they will let a person join their Congregation/Denomination. Just because it's done a whole bunch doesn't make it right, huh?
It's like some Denominations do when deciding IF they will let a person join their Congregation/Denomination. Just because it's done a whole bunch doesn't make it right, huh?
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Yes, it does, and, yes, it's well beyond what any member should have to provide to any other member here...... IF someone wants to learn about others, they can invest the time in reading comments/Threads, speaking with other members and growing in knowledge of those here on CC. NOT issue an APPLICATION to be filled out.
It's like some Denominations do when deciding IF they will let a person join their Congregation/Denomination. Just because it's done a whole bunch doesn't make it right, huh?
It's like some Denominations do when deciding IF they will let a person join their Congregation/Denomination. Just because it's done a whole bunch doesn't make it right, huh?
1. Do you believe Christians go to Heaven when they die? Yes
2. Do you believe unsaved sinners go to Hell when they die? Yes
3. Do you believe that Jesus died on a Friday? Possible Tradition?
4. Do you believe that God desires Christians to celebrate His Son's birthday annually? No Pagan Origin
5. Do you believe that it pleases God for Christians to commemorate the resurrection annually on Easter Sunday? No Pagan Origin
6. Do you believe that Sunday is a Holy Day? No, mandated in 321 AD by Emperor Constantine
7. Do you believe the earth is 6000 years old? Yes Young Earth
8. Do you believe that the Church was formed and began during the events that took place in the second chapter of Acts? Yes
9. Was Abraham Jewish? NA
10. Do you believe it is okay for openly gay people to serve in any position in the church congregation? No
11. Do you believe the OT Law was nailed to the cross and thus made void at the death of Jesus? Yes, Excepting The 10 Commandments
Amen!
2. Do you believe unsaved sinners go to Hell when they die? Yes
3. Do you believe that Jesus died on a Friday? Possible Tradition?
4. Do you believe that God desires Christians to celebrate His Son's birthday annually? No Pagan Origin
5. Do you believe that it pleases God for Christians to commemorate the resurrection annually on Easter Sunday? No Pagan Origin
6. Do you believe that Sunday is a Holy Day? No, mandated in 321 AD by Emperor Constantine
7. Do you believe the earth is 6000 years old? Yes Young Earth
8. Do you believe that the Church was formed and began during the events that took place in the second chapter of Acts? Yes
9. Was Abraham Jewish? NA
10. Do you believe it is okay for openly gay people to serve in any position in the church congregation? No
11. Do you believe the OT Law was nailed to the cross and thus made void at the death of Jesus? Yes, Excepting The 10 Commandments
Amen!
1. yes
2.no
3.no
4. no
5. no
6. yes
7.no
8.no
9. no
10. no
11. no
12. A ceremonial law as a shadow.
13. The lords day. The first day of the week ,the day God said said let there be children of light.
14. The last of the three days
15. It does not give a literal instruction.
16. As a ceremonial law that speaks of the true fast. whenever men gather together to do the will of bread of heaven.
17. One book made up of many chapters (66)
18. No outward signs one inwardly .The Spirit of Christ as the power of God that works in us to both will and do His good pleasure.
19. God does not have a name as you or I . All the names represent the immutable attributes of God .
20.The gospel is the working of God working in us from faith to faith. The unseen to the unseen . It as the power of God reveals the mind of Christ.
Romans 1:12 That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith (Christ's) both of you and me.
Romans 1:15-17 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith (Christ')to faith: (Christ')as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
2.no
3.no
4. no
5. no
6. yes
7.no
8.no
9. no
10. no
11. no
12. A ceremonial law as a shadow.
13. The lords day. The first day of the week ,the day God said said let there be children of light.
14. The last of the three days
15. It does not give a literal instruction.
16. As a ceremonial law that speaks of the true fast. whenever men gather together to do the will of bread of heaven.
17. One book made up of many chapters (66)
18. No outward signs one inwardly .The Spirit of Christ as the power of God that works in us to both will and do His good pleasure.
19. God does not have a name as you or I . All the names represent the immutable attributes of God .
20.The gospel is the working of God working in us from faith to faith. The unseen to the unseen . It as the power of God reveals the mind of Christ.
Romans 1:12 That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith (Christ's) both of you and me.
Romans 1:15-17 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith (Christ')to faith: (Christ')as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
There is a new wave of Christians who do not believe Christ started a new religion. They are the minority, but they have scripture on their side.
I believe the Lord saw that man is going away from the truth and believing in man rather than scripture many times. The Lord tells us feasts were to celebrate salvation for all generations, today's church tells us God cancelled them because they are only Jewish custom. Today's church says that being under grace means that the law is cancelled. Today's church believe that Mary cancelled the creation of Sabbath on the last day of the week. Often, if we listen to scripture we are called Judinizers, not believing in the salvation Christ gives us through Him.
I really think the Lord is seeing these things and as the Lord is eternal knew of their happening long ago in our time. God had the deep sea scrolls hidden for 2,000 years and now the ancient history they contain is brought to our world. It has helped scholars understand the Father, and that brings about an understanding of Christ. That knowledge is slowly being accepted as it filters down through the church. It follows scripture, not man, so the truth will prevail.
I believe the Lord saw that man is going away from the truth and believing in man rather than scripture many times. The Lord tells us feasts were to celebrate salvation for all generations, today's church tells us God cancelled them because they are only Jewish custom. Today's church says that being under grace means that the law is cancelled. Today's church believe that Mary cancelled the creation of Sabbath on the last day of the week. Often, if we listen to scripture we are called Judinizers, not believing in the salvation Christ gives us through Him.
I really think the Lord is seeing these things and as the Lord is eternal knew of their happening long ago in our time. God had the deep sea scrolls hidden for 2,000 years and now the ancient history they contain is brought to our world. It has helped scholars understand the Father, and that brings about an understanding of Christ. That knowledge is slowly being accepted as it filters down through the church. It follows scripture, not man, so the truth will prevail.
I most certainly do not believe that Christ started a new religion, Christ fulfilled what the Father did. Get a modern minister to explain what he thinks of the OT for you, or read some of these posts.
I am not about to even attempt to give you all the information found in the deep sea scrolls. If you are interested look them up for yourself. Many posters and modern churches scoff at them. It makes you understand the Jews needing to learn about Christ in a minor way but the principle is the same.
I am not about to even attempt to give you all the information found in the deep sea scrolls. If you are interested look them up for yourself. Many posters and modern churches scoff at them. It makes you understand the Jews needing to learn about Christ in a minor way but the principle is the same.