What strawman? Jesuit Futurists claim the Rapture is when Jesus comes "as a thief in the night". So, I point out Peter says "the day of the Lord shall come as a thief in the night,
in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise and the elements shall melt with fervent heat..." and describe it as a nuked planet, and you call that a "strawman"? FYI, a "strawman" argument is formulated by one falsely attributing statements to another followed by a refutation of those statements by that one so as to make the other appear to be in error, thereby eroding his credibility. I don't need to resort to such tactics in order to expose error, bro.
No Peter did not say that in Acts 2 you context of comes from 2Peter then I cause you to remember what is said in 2peter chapter verses 19-21
Speaking of "strawman", I've just found one! Where did I claim Peter said that in Acts? Post number, please...
And so we have the prophetic word confirmed,[fn] which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts;
knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,[fn]
for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God[fn] spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
Three things here:
- We have the prophetic word confirmed
- no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation
- God breathed all prophecy
Now the context of 2pet chapter 1 does not end that chapter. Peter continues to speak about false teachers and deception. In Chapter 3
Peter
speaks about signs "Beloved, I now write to you this second epistle (in both of which I stir up your pure minds by way of reminder), "
knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts,
and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For
since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as
they were from the beginning of creation.”
This was question not about those who have only died in this present time it was one of all those who have died FROM The Beginning. The Beginning of what? Man existence.
The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us,[fn] not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
I guess some had issues with the time frame of the Lord return.
If you want to accuse me of twisting Scripture or of privately interpreting it, just come out and say it...Good gravy, I thought you were long winded on the mic
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.[fn]
Jesus spoke about the thief too: Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
Peter says:
Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
We who are alive are to be acting and waiting and occupying till HE comes.
I agree with all of this...but I'm not seeing how it proves Jesus is can surprise the world as "a thief in the night" twice when it will be more than ready after the first time.
You suggest that One is saying Jesus is coming two times as a thief is funny.
Sorry, but it's one of the most ridiculous arguments I've ever heard, brother
I need you to explain how it's possible Jesus can surprise anyone 7 years later after He comes as thief seven years earlier and turns the entire world upside down, and everyone realizes what's happened, realizes that Jesus is coming back in 7 years, and then begins counting down 7 years to the day when He is to come back? Like I said, it'll be Don King's greatest promotion, they'll be a Times Square ball drop, they'll be booking live performers, they'll be a countdown clock on every news channel, it will dominate Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, phones will be ringing off the hook with agents selling "Rapture Insurance", they'll be a 24 hour "Rapture" cable channel telling us what to wear, what hairstyle, what sunglasses, what brand of everything we'll need to get ready...right or wrong?
Jesus came as a Child, He rose from the dead, He ascended, He appeared to Paul, In 1thess 4:13-18 Jesus is ascending to receive His saints it doesn't say HE touches the mount. of Olives.
And how does this prove the "left behind" people are going to suddenly come down with "collective amnesia" and forget He's coming back in seven years? Are the Men In Black going to come and Flashy Thing everyone after Jesus comes as a "thief in the night" the first time? Help me out, brother!
