This Cannot Continue

my apologies. i clicked the wrong message to reply to. That was to soggy in reference to the 'good many Christians in government' including POTUS (he said). I disagreed with that notion.
forgive me.

By A Thread, Real Big Smiles

Where do you live, I'm American

I live in Georgia, USA. But I am a citizen of the Kingdom of God. His is the only flag I wave.
this country's going to he** in a handbasket and I jumped ship years ago.
Don't get me wrong. I'm very thankful to have been born in this nation as opposed to say Afghanistan or Syria where they treat their dogs better than their wives. But I am sure that when the Lord said EVERY kingdom will fall He wasn't excluding the US because we got 'In God we trust' on some coins and gubment buildings. You can't tell me a nation that murders millions of infants a year and calls sexual abominations normal "one nation under God". It is a lie. Our founding documents are filled with lies and ungodly notions.
I'd line my chicken coop with em.

peace and blessings through the One True God Yahweh.

So now you're advocating mass slaughter? No one deserves life? Wow, you have some messed up idea. I don't know what Bible you're reading. smh

you said: "Render to Caesars what is Caesars Jesus once said. The Christian is to be involved in their civil duties."

bull.
nothing in that or any other scripture instructs us to be involved in the civil government other than pay them their due, obey their rules and respect the ruler of the land because God is the only one giving them the authority they have.
You have interpreted that verse to fit your doctrine as if patriotism is next to godliness. You have the right by the laws of the land to vote. yippie for you. knock yourself out. But do not judge me for not playing along.
I choose not to and do not tell me it is my civic duty. I pledge allegiance to no one but my King and His Kingdom. His banner is the one I wave. Involve yourself with the affairs of this world if you wish. I will steer clear. My prayer is my vote.
peace

nothing in that or any other scripture instructs us to be involved in the civil government other than pay them their due, obey their rules and respect the ruler of the land because God is the only one giving them the authority they have.

Involve yourself with the affairs of this world if you wish. I will steer clear.

"strip yourself naked mentally and spiritually (some of us physically!) , and be in maturity with christ. The world is temporary and not worthy of even a glance over your shoulder. Its over. Focus yourselves on Christ and the rebirth of the followers of Jesus. Your body is the holy spirits temple, treat it accordingly.

Two Thumbs Up For Tourist and Susanna, America Strong!

And as the OP states, how long can this continue?

Appears the police in Seattle are putting a foot down with arrest?

The Feds in Portland are getting aggressive with arrest, as the criminal thugs step up throwing explosive and fire bombs, cutting down Fed fences etc?

I fully agree America was heading to hell in a hand basket, 8 years of Commie Obama helped speed the process along.

President Trump is turning the ship around, he oppose killing the unborn, he oppose the evils seen in China, and dictators around the world, appointed 200+ conservative justices, signed religious freedom executive orders to mention a few.

It would be ideal to see Christian's in every place of authority in society, but that isn't reality.

It's my opinion a Christian not voting for conservatives, are directly voting for the liberals in (Abortion) and (Homosexuality) by allowing his/her vote to go silent and unaccounted for.

I'm not trying to argue, I totally respect that you value your voting power. I just have to explain how futile it all really is.
when I use to vote I did vote conservative. but the so-called 'christian' in the oval office is a fraud and a disgrace. He's a narcissistic pompous jerk and is the LEAST Christ-like Christian I've ever witnessed.
Most of the people that call themselves Christians these days have no clue as to what a healthy spiritual relationship with the Creator is because they've been indoctrinated by man-made traditions taught for doctrine. The fact that 90% of the Christians I've talked to on here actually believe they go to heaven when they die when the Bible says no such thing should tell you a lot. Jesus NEVER preached going to heaven as a reward. never. not once.
yet most of the 22 million 'Christians' around the globe think they're gonna float up to heaven and get wings like angels and hang out with Jesus all day.
clueless.
that's why I don't put much stock in the label 'christian'. these days it doesn't mean so much...
Christians in this world and MANY on this site don't even know the definition of sin.

if you believe that God is on His throne, almighty, and sovereign then you must accept that He is not 'out-of-control' of any event in His Creation.
But if God wants only republican presidents, then I'm pretty darn sure He could make that happen, and would.
Presumptuous, I think, to think God only wants conservative leaders in politics. He is working out His perfect will for this world and this nation.
The USA is far from worthy of adoration. Good has become evil and evil good.
I am a citizen of the Kingdom of God. America is just a temporary home.

Besides, I already know who's gonna be in the Oval Office next year.

later

Sounds like your the standard Trump hater to me, suffering from TDS just like the rest.

Fact: President Trump and VP Mike Pence openly oppose killing the unborn (Abortion), and have signed legislation in action of this fact.

Fact: Hillary Clinton supports killing the unborn (Abortion)

It's my opinion that a person that opposes abortion in the US, and they don't vote for a Pro-Life candidate that is opposing a Pro-Choice is actually voting for killing the unborn through their silence.

No need to beat the dead horse, we have explained our positions, I disagree with you.

suffering from TDS

But the orange man said some things that hurt my feelings.

Orange man won't be nice to China our commie brethren. Orange man in his 1st-day office started a heavy bombardment of Isis our poor oppressed middle Eastern people.

The orange man told the North Korean dictator he is facing fire destruction on the likes he has never seen before. The orange man stood up for Israel and moved the United States Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. Declaring Jerusalem their capital as legitimate. Don't he know the Jews are the oppressors in the middle east? Orange man is the most pro-life president and we hate that, we want the freedom to tear apart our children even up to birth.

Orange man has passed and worked on so many religious freedom policies and that violates the separation of church and state, he is a tyrant. The orange man helped pass prison reform and the first step act that helped many nonviolent criminals who had served long sentences be rejoined with family. We cannot have law-abiding assimilated prisoners to society, the whole system is corrupt and all should be released right now.

Orange man and his border control are anti-immigrant, we need more people as quickly as possible who do not know anything about being American to be eligible to vote without credentials. The orange man ended the Iranian nuclear deal that was doing awesome as our inspectors were denied access and nuclear weapons became more of a reality which is great to destroy the evil of Israel.

Orange man has attacked Big Pharma countless times to ensure cheaper prescriptions and life-saving drugs, we just cannot have that. Orange man has attacked Big Tech to ensure our 1st Amendment is protected, definitely cannot have that. Orange man has advocated for school choice, we cannot have parents especially minorities to choose how or where they educate their child.

Orange man has extremely been tough on sex trafficking and arrested thousands, we cannot have that. Orange man wants to protect American history, the systematic racist white privilege history we cannot protect that. Orange man has adopted an American first attitude, had record-breaking market numbers, joblessness was extremely low especially for African Americans, as to why we need to encourage more lockdowns before the election so the economy doesn't jump back up.

Orange man calls out the hypocrisy of the media and political elite, they are my friends and he speaks so bad about them. All they did was call his son, wife, daughter, or himself something disgusting and hateful, he should be perfect and turn the other cheek.

His speeches and rallies are too patriotic, he is a nationalist and we cannot have that. Orange man opposes green new deals and global warming and took us out of the Paris climate agreement, if we do not remove him by some coup then we all going to die 10 years ago in 2010.

Orange man has elected constitutional conservative judges both to the Supreme Court and lower courts, this is outrageous, now they may judge on the original interpretation of the law. Orange man is attacking Chinese spy rings in the US, he has taken us out of WHO a china empathizer. Orange man is too tough on the peaceful protesters, why can't they throw their Molotovs in peace?

So much more I hate about this man but the list is already getting long.

I'm not trying to argue, I totally respect that you value your voting power. I just have to explain how futile it all really is.
when I use to vote I did vote conservative. but the so-called 'christian' in the oval office is a fraud and a disgrace. He's a narcissistic pompous jerk and is the LEAST Christ-like Christian I've ever witnessed.

Most of the people that call themselves Christians these days have no clue as to what a healthy spiritual relationship with the Creator is because they've been indoctrinated by man-made traditions taught for doctrine. The fact that 90% of the Christians I've talked to on here actually believe they go to heaven when they die when the Bible says no such thing should tell you a lot. Jesus NEVER preached going to heaven as a reward. never. not once.
yet most of the 22 million 'Christians' around the globe think they're gonna float up to heaven and get wings like angels and hang out with Jesus all day.
clueless.

that's why I don't put much stock in the label 'christian'. these days it doesn't mean so much...
Christians in this world and MANY on this site don't even know the definition of sin.

But if God wants only republican presidents, then I'm pretty darn sure He could make that happen, and would.
Presumptuous, I think, to think God only wants conservative leaders in politics. He is working out His perfect will for this world and this nation.The USA is far from worthy of adoration. Good has become evil and evil good.

I am a citizen of the Kingdom of God. America is just a temporary home.

Besides, I already know who's gonna be in the Oval Office next year.

later

I do not hate Trump. But though he has accomplished a great many things that ARE in keeping with God's will, he himself is a self-absorbed human whose only god is Donald. I detest his sanctimonious words, and 'smarter than everybody in the room' attitude. THAT is the godless nature of him and it is observed on a regular basis. That is why I can't stand watching the news, especially politics.

See, Satan is really adept at using one of his favorite ploys to trap man. He creates these dichotomies of dogma and thought so that people will argue over who's right and who's left (wrong). All the while, neither side honors God truly. Republican vs. democrat, protestant vs. catholic, Christian vs. jew, Braves vs. Mets.....and the list goes on. Look for his 'pairs'. You will find them everywhere.

He has distorted doctrine, twisted scriptures, taught lies from the pulpit, and humans are easy bait because of their pride.
I'm better than you, my religion is better than yours, my political party is the best one, my country's better than your country, my national leader is better than yours.....can't you see, satan gets us to commit the sin of idolatry by seeing ourselves as superior to others, and none of that can be part of a life that is wholly dedicated to serving GOD ONLY.

Patriotism is NOT a Godly virtue.

Your job is to pray. If you don't think he knows the Lord pray that the Christians on his staff will be a witness. And I know that they are. He has defended religious liberty and that's a darn sight more than the radical progressives will do if they get in office. They'll have the abortion mills going full speed with no restrictions. If for no other reason, that is one to make sure the progressive Marxists don't get in to office.




You need to look deeper into what the left believes. Reps. aren't right on everything, but the left is radical and insane and they mean to change this country into something unrecognizable, and they will do it. I don't know about pairs but the Catholic church is a long way from the truth of the Word. Sad to see.





Patriotism is a Godly value. Many believers have fought and died for this country. We're living in the end times and yes the country has gone astray from it's founding. But there. are many of us who fight to stand in the gap and keep Communism from reaching our shores. Whether it's literally fighting, or down on our knees in prayer. God has blessed America because she has been a witness to the world of what freedom can be. Endowed by who? Our Creator! America was founded on Judeo/Christian values. And progressives are trying to drag us away from that founding. God had a plan when He allowed America to become a nation, and there are those of us fighting tooth and nail to keep her from going under. The least you can do is take an oar and row. smh

But the orange man said some things that hurt my feelings.

Orange man won't be nice to China our commie brethren. Orange man in his 1st-day office started a heavy bombardment of Isis our poor oppressed middle Eastern people.

The orange man told the North Korean dictator he is facing fire destruction on the likes he has never seen before. The orange man stood up for Israel and moved the United States Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. Declaring Jerusalem their capital as legitimate. Don't he know the Jews are the oppressors in the middle east? Orange man is the most pro-life president and we hate that, we want the freedom to tear apart our children even up to birth.

Orange man has passed and worked on so many religious freedom policies and that violates the separation of church and state, he is a tyrant. The orange man helped pass prison reform and the first step act that helped many nonviolent criminals who had served long sentences be rejoined with family. We cannot have law-abiding assimilated prisoners to society, the whole system is corrupt and all should be released right now.

Orange man and his border control are anti-immigrant, we need more people as quickly as possible who do not know anything about being American to be eligible to vote without credentials. The orange man ended the Iranian nuclear deal that was doing awesome as our inspectors were denied access and nuclear weapons became more of a reality which is great to destroy the evil of Israel.

Orange man has attacked Big Pharma countless times to ensure cheaper prescriptions and life-saving drugs, we just cannot have that. Orange man has attacked Big Tech to ensure our 1st Amendment is protected, definitely cannot have that. Orange man has advocated for school choice, we cannot have parents especially minorities to choose how or where they educate their child.

Orange man has extremely been tough on sex trafficking and arrested thousands, we cannot have that. Orange man wants to protect American history, the systematic racist white privilege history we cannot protect that. Orange man has adopted an American first attitude, had record-breaking market numbers, joblessness was extremely low especially for African Americans, as to why we need to encourage more lockdowns before the election so the economy doesn't jump back up.

Orange man calls out the hypocrisy of the media and political elite, they are my friends and he speaks so bad about them. All they did was call his son, wife, daughter, or himself something disgusting and hateful, he should be perfect and turn the other cheek.

His speeches and rallies are too patriotic, he is a nationalist and we cannot have that. Orange man opposes green new deals and global warming and took us out of the Paris climate agreement, if we do not remove him by some coup then we all going to die 10 years ago in 2010.

Orange man has elected constitutional conservative judges both to the Supreme Court and lower courts, this is outrageous, now they may judge on the original interpretation of the law. Orange man is attacking Chinese spy rings in the US, he has taken us out of WHO a china empathizer. Orange man is too tough on the peaceful protesters, why can't they throw their Molotovs in peace?

So much more I hate about this man but the list is already getting long.

if people would study history, they would see that the american revolution was started and organized in CHURCHES..

I do not hate Trump. But though he has accomplished a great many things that ARE in keeping with God's will, he himself is a self-absorbed human whose only god is Donald. I detest his sanctimonious words, and 'smarter than everybody in the room' attitude. THAT is the godless nature of him and it is observed on a regular basis. That is why I can't stand watching the news, especially politics.

See, Satan is really adept at using one of his favorite ploys to trap man. He creates these dichotomies of dogma and thought so that people will argue over who's right and who's left (wrong). All the while, neither side honors God truly. Republican vs. democrat, protestant vs. catholic, Christian vs. jew, Braves vs. Mets.....and the list goes on. Look for his 'pairs'. You will find them everywhere.
He has distorted doctrine, twisted scriptures, taught lies from the pulpit, and humans are easy bait because of their pride.
I'm better than you, my religion is better than yours, my political party is the best one, my country's better than your country, my national leader is better than yours.....can't you see, satan gets us to commit the sin of idolatry by seeing ourselves as superior to others, and none of that can be part of a life that is wholly dedicated to serving GOD ONLY.

Patriotism is NOT a Godly virtue.

he himself is a self-absorbed human whose only god is Donald.

I detest his sanctimonious words, and 'smarter than everybody in the room' attitude.

All the while, neither side honors God truly. Republican vs. democrat

I'm better than you, my religion is better than yours, my political party is the best one, my country's better than your country, my national leader is better than yours....

Patriotism is NOT a Godly virtue.

I do not hate Trump. But though he has accomplished a great many things that ARE in keeping with God's will, he himself is a self-absorbed human whose only god is Donald. I detest his sanctimonious words, and 'smarter than everybody in the room' attitude. THAT is the godless nature of him and it is observed on a regular basis. That is why I can't stand watching the news, especially politics.

See, Satan is really adept at using one of his favorite ploys to trap man. He creates these dichotomies of dogma and thought so that people will argue over who's right and who's left (wrong). All the while, neither side honors God truly. Republican vs. democrat, protestant vs. catholic, Christian vs. jew, Braves vs. Mets.....and the list goes on. Look for his 'pairs'. You will find them everywhere.
He has distorted doctrine, twisted scriptures, taught lies from the pulpit, and humans are easy bait because of their pride.
I'm better than you, my religion is better than yours, my political party is the best one, my country's better than your country, my national leader is better than yours.....can't you see, satan gets us to commit the sin of idolatry by seeing ourselves as superior to others, and none of that can be part of a life that is wholly dedicated to serving GOD ONLY.

Patriotism is NOT a Godly virtue.

I wasn't really implying you but showing why I support the man.

Self absorbed? What did Donald have to gain by running for President? Money? More power? Fame? No. He had all that. He received hate, redicule, death threats, slander, and criminal investigations. Doesn't fit self absorbed especially because he does whatever he says he will do. Which often involves good for Americans as he is ridiculed by the radical left.

Of course he has some words and quotes I disagree with. But who doesn't? You may see smarter than everybody attitude but I see confidence which a good leader needs.

Honors God how? The Bible has 4 different commands for 4 different areas. The Government, the Church, the family, and the individual.

Biblically how should government operate? I'm not expecting you to know because this is a very in depth question that takes studying both the Old and New Testament.

I will say this yes individuals on both sides don't honor God sometimes or regularly. But the philosophy behind each side that promotes a system that honors God is quite clear.

What if the facts and reality makes it true? Do you not see Christianity as the best religion? Is China better than America? Is the Democratic party better than the Republican party? Is Trump better than the North Korean dictator, China, Russia, or France?

In reality we are given discernment to judge based on the Word.

Love your neighbor is.

Is North Korea's Dictator Better Than Trump?

By All Means Move To North Korea And Find Out.

Are You Going To Cash Your Next (Donald J. Trump) $1200 Stimulus Check?

Possibly Your Convictions Will Keep You From Doing So?