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We are being duped folks!!!!

HQ could get us COMPLETELY out of the virus mess.
 
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EleventhHour

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How about "virology journal"
It is old,old news and IS EFFECTIVE.
You should be red hot mad at the duping we are in from political deranged experts.

""Due to the severity of SARS-CoV infection, the potential for rapid spread of the disease, and the absence of proven effective and safe in vivo inhibitors of the virus, it is important to identify drugs that can effectively be used to treat or prevent potential SARS-CoV infections. Many novel therapeutic approaches have been evaluated in laboratory studies of SARS-CoV: notable among these approaches are those using siRNA [7], passive antibody transfer [8], DNA vaccination [9], vaccinia or parainfluenza virus expressing the spike protein [10,11], interferons [12,13], and monoclonal antibody to the S1-subunit of the spike glycoprotein that blocks receptor binding [14]. In this report, we describe the identification of chloroquine as an effective pre- and post-infection antiviral agent for SARS-CoV. Chloroquine, a 9-aminoquinoline that was identified in 1934, is a weak base that increases the pH of acidic vesicles. When added extracellularly, the non-protonated portion of chloroquine enters the cell, where it becomes protonated and concentrated in acidic, low-pH organelles, such as endosomes, Golgi vesicles, and lysosomes. Chloroquine can affect virus infection in many ways, and the antiviral effect depends in part on the extent to which the virus utilizes endosomes for entry. Chloroquine has been widely used to treat human diseases, such as malaria, amoebiosis, HIV, and autoimmune diseases, without significant detrimental side effects [15] ""
"cell culture in primates"
SARS CoV was different virus and has disappeared from the planet.
 

PennEd

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Think of the impact this man has had on our lives, because of his sometimes forceful recommendations. This definitively proves that this man is a fraud.

 
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The article does not state that Doctor Fauci was one of the researchers per se. But clearly he was well aware of the research results. Furthermore it is a well established fact that HCQ is effective against all forms of coronaviruses, and the latest research proves conclusively that it is very effective against Covid 19.

Fauci has to go. Please Mr. Trump dismiss this man immediately he is a threat.
No sources. At all...lol.
 
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Susanna

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your source is kaiser permanente , which is 100% knee deep in the vaccine race for the covid vaccine .

so, kudos for doing research , but maybe not from a source that is financially incentivized to demonize hydroxy.
Sigh... I can keep posting valid sources around the clock, but you will dismiss them all because they don’t have a Trump approval stamp lol.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/931061
 
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"cell culture in primates"
SARS CoV was different virus and has disappeared from the planet.
Let's see.....a corona virus with hq being a game changer
....but your not buying it?

...and get this...NO ZINC WAS USED!!!

HQ FAKE STUDIES USE NO ZINC AND SMALL DOSES OF HQ.
Results are "HQ Ineffective"

Fake fake fake.
 

cv5

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Please post a link to several double blind randomized studies.
My son has his PHd in engineering and you as a engineer should understand proper research.
Somebody here is double-blind and it's not me.
51 of 67 Global studies on HCQ has been shown effective. Yet the left would rather see people sick and even die, than admit this drug works.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-hcq-treatment-covid-19-shuts-cnn-hack-video/
Absolutely correct. They could bring this pandemic under control anytime they wish. Blame the doctors, who have now become aligned with the crooked politicians, Fauci being the preeminent example of this. They are going to use COVID-19 as an excuse to accrue more power and money. Such is the spirit of the age.

There is the strong possibility that they will use COVID-19 as an excuse to crash the global economic system, and do a reboot using even more worthless global digital money. We as Christians understand the signs of the times. When they roll out the global digital money lift up your heads for your redemption cometh nigh.
 

cv5

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How about "virology journal"
It is old,old news and IS EFFECTIVE.
You should be red hot mad at the duping we are in from political deranged experts.

""Due to the severity of SARS-CoV infection, the potential for rapid spread of the disease, and the absence of proven effective and safe in vivo inhibitors of the virus, it is important to identify drugs that can effectively be used to treat or prevent potential SARS-CoV infections. Many novel therapeutic approaches have been evaluated in laboratory studies of SARS-CoV: notable among these approaches are those using siRNA [7], passive antibody transfer [8], DNA vaccination [9], vaccinia or parainfluenza virus expressing the spike protein [10,11], interferons [12,13], and monoclonal antibody to the S1-subunit of the spike glycoprotein that blocks receptor binding [14]. In this report, we describe the identification of chloroquine as an effective pre- and post-infection antiviral agent for SARS-CoV. Chloroquine, a 9-aminoquinoline that was identified in 1934, is a weak base that increases the pH of acidic vesicles. When added extracellularly, the non-protonated portion of chloroquine enters the cell, where it becomes protonated and concentrated in acidic, low-pH organelles, such as endosomes, Golgi vesicles, and lysosomes. Chloroquine can affect virus infection in many ways, and the antiviral effect depends in part on the extent to which the virus utilizes endosomes for entry. Chloroquine has been widely used to treat human diseases, such as malaria, amoebiosis, HIV, and autoimmune diseases, without significant detrimental side effects [15] ""
Absolutely correct. This is very well known they simply refuse to accept the findings.
 

cv5

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John MacArthur on FOXNews..... again! Go ahead Newsom.....make my day and have McArthur arrested.
 
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"cell culture in primates"
SARS CoV was different virus and has disappeared from the planet.
You have no idea what you are talking about
""Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is an emerging disease that was first reported in Guangdong Province, China, in late 2002. The disease rapidly spread to at least 30 countries within months of its first appearance, and concerted worldwide efforts led to the identification of the etiological agent as SARS coronavirus (SARS-CoV), a novel member of the family Coronaviridae [1]. Complete genome sequencing of SARS-CoV [2,3] confirmed that this pathogen is not closely related to any of the previously established coronavirus groups. Budding of the SARS-CoV occurs in the Golgi apparatus [4] and results in the incorporation of the envelope spike glycoprotein into the virion. The spike glycoprotein is a type I membrane protein that facilitates viral attachment to the cellular receptor and initiation of infection, and angiotensin-converting enzyme-2 (ACE2) has been identified as a functional cellular receptor of SARS-CoV [5]. We have recently shown that the processing of the spike protein was effected by furin-like convertases and that inhibition of this cleavage by a specific inhibitor abrogated cytopathicity and significantly reduced the virus titer of SARS-CoV [6].""

Google it.
You are 100% wrong
 
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How many facts do you need to prove you have been lead into a msm fake propaganda?

The media is a monster freak that took us into the desert and died. We rode that freak into no man's land and look where we are.

Are you ever going to acknowledge a no brainer????
 
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John MacArthur on FOXNews..... again! Go ahead Newsom.....make my day and have McArthur arrested.

I am not a fan of MacArthur but boy oh boy, that would really make things hit the fan.

It is SO time this singling out of churches and a few other things was made to stop.

In my state and county churches are open now, with the dreaded distancing, but they are open
 
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Look at this article trying so hard to make us believe sars and c19 are different.
Almost comical that they NEED them to be




COVID-19 vs. SARS: How Do They Differ?

COVID-19, which is caused by the new coronavirus, has been dominating the news lately. However, you may have first become familiar with the term coronavirus during the severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) outbreak in 2003.
Both COVID-19 and SARS are caused by coronaviruses. The virus that causes SARS is known as SARS-CoV, while the virus that causes COVID-19 is known as SARS-CoV-2. There are also other types of human coronaviruses.
Despite their similar name, there are several differences between the coronaviruses that cause COVID-19 and SARS. Keep reading as we explore coronaviruses and how they compare to each other.""
 

PennEd

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There is the strong possibility that they will use COVID-19 as an excuse to crash the global economic system, and do a reboot using even more worthless global digital money. We as Christians understand the signs of the times. When they roll out the global digital money lift up your heads for your redemption cometh nigh.
I love my sisters and brothers in the Lord that differ with us on these issues. I’m just wondering what will have to happen before they finally understand that this whole thing is orchestrated for the elite to control everyone. This is not China. This is not Iran. This is not North Korea. This is happening now in Melbourne Australia.

Melbourne, Australia, is going under a nearly full lockdown for the next six weeks, a phase that started Sunday and runs until Sept. 13.
Here are the rules:
  • Must stay within 5km (3 mi) radius of home.
  • Only one person from a household is allowed to shop per day.
  • No more than one hour of exercise per day and groups limited to two.
  • Recreational activity is banned.
  • Curfew from 8 p.m. until 5 a.m.
But the government officials say “you can leave your house if you are at risk of family violence or to apply for an intervention order, and to attend court or a police station,” The Guardianreports.

You cannot have visitors or go to another person’s house unless it is for the purpose of giving or receiving care. You can leave your house to visit a person if you are in an “intimate personal relationship” with them, even during curfew hours. That is, there is no “bonk ban.”

If your partner lives outside Melbourne and/or 5km of your home you can still visit them.
Cleaners, tradespeople, gardeners, painters and renovators are not allowed to visit your house for work. Exceptions exist for emergency issues like a burst pipe, and for providing care for welfare and wellbeing like Meals on Wheels.

Restaurants and cafes will be closed through Phase Four, but liquor stores somehow curb the spread as they’ll remain open for pick ups.

Oh, and all residents of the city will be banned from leaving for any reason. Plus, no one can come to Melbourne, either, unless it’s an emergency.

And finally, no weddings allowed, and funerals will be capped at 10 people in attendance.
 
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Another article says "sars the virus that causes c19."

Uh huh
 

gb9

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Sigh... I can keep posting valid sources around the clock, but you will dismiss them all because they don’t have a Trump approval stamp lol.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/931061

*disclaimer -
i am not a maga trump guy, i support some things he does, do not support others.

thank you for posting some links after being asked to do so.

and flip what you just said and think about it-
could it be that hydroxy is being attacked BECAUSE trump promotes it??
 

cv5

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I love my sisters and brothers in the Lord that differ with us on these issues. I’m just wondering what will have to happen before they finally understand that this whole thing is orchestrated for the elite to control everyone. This is not China. This is not Iran. This is not North Korea. This is happening now in Melbourne Australia.

Melbourne, Australia, is going under a nearly full lockdown for the next six weeks, a phase that started Sunday and runs until Sept. 13.
Here are the rules:
  • Must stay within 5km (3 mi) radius of home.
  • Only one person from a household is allowed to shop per day.
  • No more than one hour of exercise per day and groups limited to two.
  • Recreational activity is banned.
  • Curfew from 8 p.m. until 5 a.m.
But the government officials say “you can leave your house if you are at risk of family violence or to apply for an intervention order, and to attend court or a police station,” The Guardianreports.

You cannot have visitors or go to another person’s house unless it is for the purpose of giving or receiving care. You can leave your house to visit a person if you are in an “intimate personal relationship” with them, even during curfew hours. That is, there is no “bonk ban.”

If your partner lives outside Melbourne and/or 5km of your home you can still visit them.
Cleaners, tradespeople, gardeners, painters and renovators are not allowed to visit your house for work. Exceptions exist for emergency issues like a burst pipe, and for providing care for welfare and wellbeing like Meals on Wheels.

Restaurants and cafes will be closed through Phase Four, but liquor stores somehow curb the spread as they’ll remain open for pick ups.

Oh, and all residents of the city will be banned from leaving for any reason. Plus, no one can come to Melbourne, either, unless it’s an emergency.

And finally, no weddings allowed, and funerals will be capped at 10 people in attendance.
I have heard several times in several different places that all of this is meant to condition the masses for what's coming next. These matters are of the deepest possible concern. Think banking lockdowns and waiting in line for food allocations by the government, as they reboot with the global digital money scam. Let us pray that all of this passes we return to normalcy.

Unfortunately by the looks of it they are going to maintain this condition until they come up with "the vaccine".

The truth is HCQ therapy works and none of this has to happen. But it is happening anyway.
 

gb9

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I love my sisters and brothers in the Lord that differ with us on these issues. I’m just wondering what will have to happen before they finally understand that this whole thing is orchestrated for the elite to control everyone. This is not China. This is not Iran. This is not North Korea. This is happening now in Melbourne Australia.

Melbourne, Australia, is going under a nearly full lockdown for the next six weeks, a phase that started Sunday and runs until Sept. 13.
Here are the rules:
  • Must stay within 5km (3 mi) radius of home.
  • Only one person from a household is allowed to shop per day.
  • No more than one hour of exercise per day and groups limited to two.
  • Recreational activity is banned.
  • Curfew from 8 p.m. until 5 a.m.
But the government officials say “you can leave your house if you are at risk of family violence or to apply for an intervention order, and to attend court or a police station,” The Guardianreports.

You cannot have visitors or go to another person’s house unless it is for the purpose of giving or receiving care. You can leave your house to visit a person if you are in an “intimate personal relationship” with them, even during curfew hours. That is, there is no “bonk ban.”

If your partner lives outside Melbourne and/or 5km of your home you can still visit them.
Cleaners, tradespeople, gardeners, painters and renovators are not allowed to visit your house for work. Exceptions exist for emergency issues like a burst pipe, and for providing care for welfare and wellbeing like Meals on Wheels.

Restaurants and cafes will be closed through Phase Four, but liquor stores somehow curb the spread as they’ll remain open for pick ups.

Oh, and all residents of the city will be banned from leaving for any reason. Plus, no one can come to Melbourne, either, unless it’s an emergency.

And finally, no weddings allowed, and funerals will be capped at 10 people in attendance.
* numbers -

in australia , they have had 18.730 total cases.

10,622 have recovered.

of the 7846 active cases- only 44 ( 44!!!!) are being listed as serious.

the aussies should be rebelling in mass.
 
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You have no idea what you are talking about
""Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is an emerging disease that was first reported in Guangdong Province, China, in late 2002. The disease rapidly spread to at least 30 countries within months of its first appearance, and concerted worldwide efforts led to the identification of the etiological agent as SARS coronavirus (SARS-CoV), a novel member of the family Coronaviridae [1]. Complete genome sequencing of SARS-CoV [2,3] confirmed that this pathogen is not closely related to any of the previously established coronavirus groups. Budding of the SARS-CoV occurs in the Golgi apparatus [4] and results in the incorporation of the envelope spike glycoprotein into the virion. The spike glycoprotein is a type I membrane protein that facilitates viral attachment to the cellular receptor and initiation of infection, and angiotensin-converting enzyme-2 (ACE2) has been identified as a functional cellular receptor of SARS-CoV [5]. We have recently shown that the processing of the spike protein was effected by furin-like convertases and that inhibition of this cleavage by a specific inhibitor abrogated cytopathicity and significantly reduced the virus titer of SARS-CoV [6].""

Google it.
You are 100% wrong
What is your point?

SARS CoV no longer exists. I live in the greater Toronto area I went through SARS CoV
We now have SARS CoV 2 a different virus.

You owe me an apology for your mean remarks