Abortion - Bible and Feminism

Easy... Sola Scripura... Bible doesn't specifically condemn it...
It never made sense to me either until this guy, strict Sola Scripura, literally.
(i've been meaning to ask him what he thinks about the trinity. he should reject it based on his method)

And after chatting with him on this and a few other things I understand. If a person claims to be strict Sola Scripura then they really should have no qualms about abortion. In fact he actually pulled out OT scripture to say this is the closest thing to abortion in the bible and God used it... He can present his case better than but...

U would probably say all the things i did but he defines life as starting at birth and he won't budge on it.

At 8 weeks the baby can feel pain. Inflicting pain is an immoral act...
U can build a moral argument from that, i did. Inflicting pain is immoral

Easy... Sola Scripura... Bible doesn't specifically condemn it...
It never made sense to me either until this guy, strict Sola Scripura, literally.
(i've been meaning to ask him what he thinks about the trinity. he should reject it based on his method)

And after chatting with him on this and a few other things I understand. If a person claims to be strict Sola Scripura then they really should have no qualms about abortion. In fact he actually pulled out OT scripture to say this is the closest thing to abortion in the bible and God used it... He can present his case better than but...

U would probably say all the things i did but he defines life as starting at birth and he won't budge on it.

At 8 weeks the baby can feel pain. Inflicting pain is an immoral act...
U can build a moral argument from that, i did. Inflicting pain is immoral

He's out of his league. Its obvious he has little love for the truth and less for babies.

I've been against abortion since I was 10 yrs old. Long before I fell in love with the bible. It was just logical to me. Back then the argument I heard was 'they don't know when it should be considered human". I thought, that doesn't mean you can kill it. It means until you know that, you can't. I've used this analogy, if I'm hunting with a friend and I see movement in some bushes. I'm not sure if it's a deer or my friend. Do I still shoot?

The bible reveals a God who became a zygote in the womb. The most Sacred being, creator of all. Entered a life that in my country it's lawful to.....its healthy to kill..

You would think once a human life has begun, and we know with certainty when that has happened, it would be protected as much as any other human life.

Scripture uses the term “with child” to depict a pregnant woman specifically indicating that it is a child within the womb. The word “pregnant” is not a biblical word and is a very poor choice to describe a child within the womb.

So yes, scripture is anti abortion. It is very clear.

Like i said, its not my argument but he would buy that. This is the definition of pregnant according to google
Pregnant - having a child or young developing in the uterus

To him its a fetus, an unborn child... Anyway thats not me, im anti abortion... I was just saying that i understand his view that unless the bible is clear about it then its ok, the word abortion doesn't even appear

Yes, but using scripture only, it is a child not a fetus.

But he would simply say... "Then what is a fetus"

At conception an individual human being has entered it's very own life. Whether or not It's viable or a person or has a human soul none of that matters. The llife of that one celled human is the same life when that human is 80. If the one celled human is killed its more evil than killing the 80 year old because the 80 yr old has lived a long life.

Do u want to me to introduce u to him?

Nah, if he has jumped through the " it's not a baby till it's born" hoop, he obviously isn't a reasonable man. He probably enjoys watching folks beat their heads against the wall.
Thanks for asking

He's out of his league. Its obvious he has little love for the truth and less for babies.

I've been against abortion since I was 10 yrs old. Long before I fell in love with the bible. It was just logical to me. Back then the argument I heard was 'they don't know when it should be considered human". I thought, that doesn't mean you can kill it. It means until you know that, you can't. I've used this analogy, if I'm hunting with a friend and I see movement in some bushes. I'm not sure if it's a deer or my friend. Do I still shoot?

The bible reveals a God who became a zygote in the womb. The most Sacred being, creator of all. Entered a life that in my country it's lawful to.....its healthy to kill..

You would think once a human life has begun, and we know with certainty when that has happened, it would be protected as much as any other human life.

Yes, but using scripture only, it is a child not a fetus.

Ye mate he won't budge from that position...
I did convince him to change his mind from "its just a bunch of cells and tissue" at 8 weeks to "its an unborn baby/ fetus"
Thats the best i could do but who knows, maybe its a few steps in the right direction that will get him to eventually see the murder of the most innocent humans, like we do

I would really like to know this magical place in a woman's body where a "fetus" ,which means baby in Latin, becomes a baby. Is it in the birth canal or before? Inside mom, not a baby, instant it pops out, baby!! Yay!! It must be the magical unicorn dust, or is it fairy? Haven't figured that out yet...

There are two main reasons why sola scripture is inadequate...
1/ Things that don't appear in the bible, like abortion, are considered to be fine
2/ Interpretations of the bible become subjective when left to the individual creating many divisions

He would probably ask where do u draw the line between fetus and child?

@Benadam

Just a reminder that im just playing devils advocate here. Im anti abortion
I remembered some of the scripture he used to support his position...

here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.” Numbers 5:21-22 (NIV)
God uses abortion as a punishment here...

An atheist actually pulled out this on me once and said " God lets u kill your child without him even being heard"

So theres enough there for someone to take that view. Especially if your like him and take sola scriptura very literally...
He wants it written in the Bible plain as day

He would probably ask where do u draw the line between fetus and child?

@Benadam

Just a reminder that im just playing devils advocate here. Im anti abortion
I remembered some of the scripture he used to support his position...

here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.” Numbers 5:21-22 (NIV)
God uses abortion as a punishment here...

If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid. Deuteronomy 21:18-21 (NIV)
An atheist actually pulled out this on me once and said " God lets u kill your child without him even being heard"

So theres enough there for someone to take that view. Especially if your like him and take sola scriptura very literally...
He wants it written in the Bible plain as day

I think the moment is when the head comes out... Have u heard of "born alive"?
If u haven't then brace your self before u go searching ok
I don't want to mention it but its the truth and it should be revealed...

I stopped arguing and just kept stating facts. Over the yrs. he's against abortion now as much as I am

Yes, I have. We've now moved past abortion to infanticide in this country if progressives get their way. It's horrific to me. And the truth should be revealed. I'm on secular forums a lot and debate about this

It's a blob, one lady told me, like flubber. And I was like "lady it's 2020 out there, stick your head out, this isn't 1970!! We know differently than that now. We have medical and scientific evidence of when life begins." smh It's unreal. But I keep talking about it and getting the facts out there. Hopefully minds will be changed, and hearts.