So I have an idea for a discussion

First I would like to ask of tour purpose is to make the argument Jesus words don’t apply to his church please as a Christian brother or sister find a post that is debating that .

my idea is let’s discuss the thing Jesus Christ taught his followers in the four gospels and see if we can have a spirit of understanding who Jesus is to us and learn humbly ?

not sure how this will be received in this forum I’m new here haven’t gotten a feel for the environment yet .

God bless you do you have a favorite section , teaching or event in the gospel that offers something of value in understanding to discuss or share ? I would love to discuss our Lord Jesus Christ according to the gospel that is written

Jesus is God.

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

John 1:14 "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth."

Jesus, after being baptized in water and by the Holy Ghost, came back to Galilee, even unto Nazareth, and went into the place of gathering for reading God's word, and read from Isaiah 61, and applied it directly to Himself:

Jesus just quoted the scripture which speaks of the Messiah/Christ (Anointed), and applied it directly to Himself.

the son is Gods fullness in the blind world

"Jesus loves me this I know, 'cause the bible told me so".

Amen I love searching prophecy here’s another regarding this

“And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord; And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth:

and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.

...And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭11:1-5, 10‬ ‭

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

One of my favorite Scriptures

One of my favorites too.

“ from before the starts began to shine and before the galaxies were set in motion by his word yes ..... He Loves you enough to suffer shame , indignity , accusation, beatings, being spit on , slapped and flogged and even being stripped and nailed to the old wooden cross ......just to hear you call his name God loves you

Amen to that if you think about it if I kill, lie , cheat, steal ect I’m not acting in love. That’s what the law and prophets were about how we treat others that’s what Jesus teaches how to love one another his way

Indeed, but I am only utilizing those words which Jesus stated about Himself to show what He Himself taught (as recorded), and not what others stated about Him. For instance:

Jesus directly stated that He had existed before the earth was even created, in Heaven, as an individual Person/Being, distinct from His Father (another Person/Being):

Jesus also taught that He was distinct and individual from the Person/Being of the Holy Ghost/Spirit of JEHOVAH Elohiym:

So in chapter 14 there

“If ye love me, keep my commandments.

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:15-17, 21, 23-24‬ ‭

Just wanted to show the context
A bit

well yes Jesus has the role of Christ God is three in one being each having their own purpose all Three are God and all are one . Uet again different purposes

the Holy Ghost comes from God unto the believer , only through the things Jesus the son accomplished , God the Fathers will through his three distinct aspects of his divine being

it doesn’t appear on the Bible the phrase “Jesus is God” but he actually is God manifest in his full expression to
Mankind


“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus is the full view of who God is the Old Testament has him hidden in darkness and fire they never knew the true God

Jesus is the image and glory of God the full expression of our God is Jesus when he was on earth he had made himself subject like one of us a
Man . At that point Gods spirit is in him his father was with him

Jesus directly stated that He was the "good Shepherd" (in stewardship to His Father, the Husbandman), even of the Old Testament:


Jesus stated that the real sheep of Israel belonged to Himself:

Jesus stated that He was the Lord God, who will be the separator of the Sheep and the Goats, even as found in Ezekiel:


Jesus directly applied Isaiah 56:8 to Himself:

Jesus directly applied Isaiah 45:22 to Himself:

Jesus directly applied Zechariah 13:7 to Himself:

What do you mean? Show me any scripture where Jesus said any such thing.

This is heresy.

John 6

John 6:27 (NKJV): Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him.”

John 6:35 (NKJV): And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst

John 6:37–40 (NKJV): All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

John 6:47–51 (NKJV): Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and are dead. 50 This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that one may eat of it and not die. 51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world.”

John 6:54–58 (NKJV): Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed. 56 He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me. 58 This is the bread which came down from heaven—not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He who eats this bread will live forever.”


the most controversial, Mistranslated and misused scripture in my view, but a message Of deep hope, every child of god should feed on these words which give assurance and encouragement in time of trouble and doubt

That didn't take long....

You don't believe in the Holy Trinity? There are three separate unique entities - Father, Son, Holy Spirit comprising one God.

The BDF (Bible Discussion Forum) is a nest for pharisee's that like throwing accusations around, spiritual and intellectual pride, name calling and saying that everyone who disagrees with their view is going to help and a heretic. Humility doesn't really exist here.

sure bro

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“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

there are three aspects of one God the word of course became the son of God being born a man so we can know him

“Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The word that is one with God is jesus Christ his Son

“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

...And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:14, 16, 18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

so then you have the conclusion of the apostle John the beloved

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

please allow for a good spirit I’m happy to share scripture saying anything I say , just here to discuss God bless you