How old is our creation really?

I saw one of them explaining how a land animal grew into a whale saying over eons the nostrils began to merge and move from the snout and become a present day blowhole on their back Bwahahahaha .. And become a perfect sea creature straining out plankton to eat .. I say get that man a straight jacket who says this type thing being serious ..

And the life cycle of the guinea worm is the most incredible thing ever , there are no chances ..

Yes, I believe Adam was created on the 6th day and placed in the garden .. But while he and eve lived in the garden the others which could have been as few as 6 that could include genetics all the races or Adam could have contained all the material himself .. The outside bunch had a 130 yr head start populating the earth before Cain was conceived outside the garden then more time after plus he grew up .. Abel was killed and Seth come along to replace him, more time .. Population can grow pretty quick where there's no TV . My clue is Noah's sons married daughter and could have been beautiful daughters of any race to re populate earth .. And mrs noah could have been genetically diverse from Noah, Noah himself probably was imo .. I also don't believe God ever approved of marrying sisters or extreme close kin .. On a side note I also don't believe Sarah was Abrahams 1/2 sister .. More probably a cousin ..

I have seen that one
And in some way he has a strong point. Although they are so persistent in the wrong model by ignoring the hand of God, a creator.

We share genetic variation coming from our mother and father. BUT We lose/gain genetic material by insemination. Not by mutation
We as humans have done selection through insemination over and over again.

Even when they create crops or animals in labs, they need to inseminate to get to an actual F1 generation. Selection doesn’t require mutation, it takes what is there and reorganises it.

Over the years I had many arguments with atheists trying to explain their way of thinking. It was always interesting to experience their ignorance. They will not admit defeat because then they will have to repent. Sad really...

I also don't believe Sarah was Abrahams 1/2 sister .. More probably a cousin ..

I can almost understand the deception 200 years ago but there's no excuse the last 40 years especially today .

I have seen that one
And in some way he has a strong point. Although they are so persistent in the wrong model by ignoring the hand of God, a creator.

We share genetic variation coming from our mother and father. BUT We lose/gain genetic material by insemination. Not by mutation
We as humans have done selection through insemination over and over again.

Even when they create crops or animals in labs, they need to inseminate to get to an actual F1 generation. Selection doesn’t require mutation, it takes what is there and reorganises it.

Of course there is... Look at the lies we’ve been spooned since birth on. It takes a near death experience for most people to get to the actual essence of life.
Jesus also said on the cross “Father forgive them for they do not know what they are doing.”

We do not know what we are doing...

She was the wife of Abram's brother Haran who died before they their father had departed from UR. Genesis 11:26 or thereabouts. Abram married her and Abram's brother married Haran daughter,

So do you think Matthew 1:1 should be taken literally?

So if Genesis 1:1 isn't written in a manner to be taken literally then how do you create a universe unless you begin with an expanse of space? In the beginning God created the heaven, So what is that expanse of space but a body of matter. and the earth,

So the Genesis model begins with a spherical body of space that was created in the beginning of the universe.


I think the Holy Ghost wrote the scriptures of the Torah to be taken literally since that is the way he teaches the precepts within them.

It also have a flat circular earth, light without a sun, and a unfrozen floating ball of water that he’s hovering over. Each generation had read what they scientifically understood into the Bible. That’s not what ancient Jewish people believed when they read the Bible 6,000 years ago. Their idea of the heavens (sky and space) and the world is very different from ours.

Of course there is... Look at the lies we’ve been spooned since birth on. It takes a near death experience for most people to get to the actual essence of life.
Jesus also said on the cross “Father forgive them for they do not know what they are doing.”

We do not know what we are doing...

I have seen that one
And in some way he has a strong point. Although they are so persistent in the wrong model by ignoring the hand of God, a creator.

We share genetic variation coming from our mother and father. BUT We lose/gain genetic material by insemination. Not by mutation
We as humans have done selection through insemination over and over again.

Even when they create crops or animals in labs, they need to inseminate to get to an actual F1 generation. Selection doesn’t require mutation, it takes what is there and reorganises it.

That is what they are basiscly teaching. That gradual mutations over millions of years add up to a new species. I see them confusing different species with other ones.

We clearly see there were different kinds of humans roaming the past. But I can not clearly see we evolved out of fish or share a common ancestor with apes.

What I really see? God created something perfect but there were opposite forces. Forces God said not to get wise in. But we as species gave ourselves over to knowledge and we got changed by fallen angels. God had to intervene with a global disaster leaving only the genetic material of few behind.

We think eugenics is new? I think it was there ever since mankind got corrupted by evil forces to hijack this world. These fallen angels have been trying to create their own human in the past and they are doing it now again. They want to connect us to a digital network you and I know nothing about (yet). But we see it’s here already in some sleeping form getting more active each day.

The Agent Smith out of the Matrix might very soon be a genuine charactar in this real world. Now it is still spiritual and digital, but may soon be very very physical.

There are restrictions in genetic codes per kind , you can breed for 6000 yrs but if it ain't in there you can't create it .. There are limits you can't go past and like I mentioned before ''God could have triggers coded into DNA'' but I can't admit information can be created by a man or animal at will .. Breed some 6 legged turkeys like John Madden used to have on thanksgiving NFL and I'll consider .. lol .. And just because I got 3 toes on one foot and 7 on the other don't mean I can't count to ten lol .. love discussing these things by the way

There are restrictions in genetic codes per kind , you can breed for 6000 yrs but if it ain't in there you can't create it .. There are limits you can't go past and like I mentioned before ''God could have triggers coded into DNA'' but I can't admit information can be created by a man or animal at will .. Breed some 6 legged turkeys like John Madden used to have on thanksgiving NFL and I'll consider .. lol .. And just because I got 3 toes on one foot and 7 on the other don't mean I can't count to ten lol .. love discussing these things by the way

Again, I’m not an atheist by any means. Before I even believed in evolution strongly or gave much thought to it by studying Hebrew and studying patterns of the Tanakh and seeing what other scholars teased out of the stories and studying literature analysis it became clear a literal interpretation of Genesis 1-11 was not an honest understanding of the story. Same for Job and Jonah. Both of those stories are clearly wrote as fictional tales to convey a truth. Jesus himself used many fictional parables and examples and finally in revelation we see it being really used to create a artistic tale.

Again, I’m not an atheist by any means. Before I even believed in evolution strongly or gave much thought to it by studying Hebrew and studying patterns of the Tanakh and seeing what other scholars teased out of the stories and studying literature analysis it became clear a literal interpretation of Genesis 1-11 was not an honest understanding of the story. Same for Job and Jonah. Both of those stories are clearly wrote as fictional tales to convey a truth. Jesus himself used many fictional parables and examples and finally in revelation we see it being really used to create a artistic tale.

Something like ''we have the same father but we don't have the same mother'' .. Terah had 3 sons with no mention of other sons of daughters .. How did you figure Sarah was married previously , just asking .. I know Abram had to explain how and what he was talking about when he was coaching her ..

It also have a flat circular earth, light without a sun, and a unfrozen floating ball of water that he’s hovering over. Each generation had read what they scientifically understood into the Bible. That’s not what ancient Jewish people believed when they read the Bible 6,000 years ago. Their idea of the heavens (sky and space) and the world is very different from ours.