Global Warming, Is It A Man Made Hoax?

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Roughsoul1991

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God created all Carbon in the beginning .. The oceans, rivers, lakes and swamps are literally bubbling up methane carbon .. Ants and termites alone produce more methane/carbon than all man and machinery .. More Carbon is still in earth than before the flood buried all plants and animals now in the form of gas, coal and oil . CO2 is not the warming problem if there were one ..
C02 is plant food.
 

Truth7t7

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So despite evidence for or against climate change, despite opposing scientific opinions, we are seeing change. The only real question though is what is causing it? Is it natural or manmade.

If natural then there is nothing we can do. If man made then we must ask what is mankind doing to cause it and can it be fixed?

If it is something of mankind causing the climate to change in more severity then at what length would we have to go to stop it or curve it back down.


The United States is in position 89 on air pollution rankings.
https://www.numbeo.com/pollution/rankings_by_country.jsp

Meaning 87 other countries are polluting more than the US. China being at #14.

Even if the US or Allies completely separated from fossil fuels, would it change enough to make a difference while many of the other countries around the world do not have the means to change or simply do not care. Would you be able to force China? They are busy building their military while breaking every human right and do not care about how much pollution it makes.

The US in ranking does a incredible job in comparison to be a world superpower.

If we see no change even with our efforts then your only option is WW3 to force all other countries or die eventually.
I appreciate your chart on polluting nations I agree, the globalist regulations are being pushed on developed (Western Nations) while communist China and 3rd world countries get a free pollution pass?

I have studied the issue of (Climate Change), it appears to be man made, pushed falsely through media hype, and used as a globalist tool, shifting wealth from western world countries to communist and 3rd world nations.

USA professor (Michael Mann) is a key figure in (Climate Gate) in his hockey stick graph, as world scientist changed numbers and models in fraudulent manipulation, to show warming trends and higher temps, better known as (Climategate), stolen email that completely reveal the globalist (Fraud)

(Hide The Decline)

Wikipedia: The Climatic Research Unit email controversy (also known as "Climategate") began in November 2009 with the hacking of a server at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia (UEA) by an external attacker, copying thousands of emails and computer files (the Climatic Research Unit documents) to various internet locations several weeks before the Copenhagen Summit on climate change.
 

Truth7t7

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With all due respect .. No, it was about man causing too much co2 rising to ''dangerous'' levels and charging a global trillions of dollars carbon tax to scam the people out of their money .. It is a lie .. And then that too much co2 in the atmosphere would cause sea level rise and other catastrophes, another lie from hell .. And yes it was about warming temperatures that snow would even stop in many places and many kids would never see snow again :cry: .. There's plenty of proof MMGW is a lie .. And we are actually entering a global cooling phase according to recent weather and real science records and data from the past , wouldn't you know it .. BTW our east coast was predicted to be under 10' of water by 2010 , yet bankers are still financing trillions of dollars of coastal property investments .. Follow the money
Your 100% correct, climate change is a commie globalist plot to move wealth from free western world nations to communist China and 3rd world countries.

China nor 3rd world countries are bound to these globalist laws, as the continue to polite.

I agree the world is in a global cooling phase, as (Climategate) has revealed, as the global scientist hide the decline in fraud and manipulation.
 

bojack

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We are at about 3-400 ppm co2 in the atmosphere , does anyone know the content of times past
 

bojack

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bojack

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Adapt 2030 .. David Dubyne has been doing weekly videos for a while reporting on weather around earth .. He is on no ones pay roll that I know of .. Very interesting and frightening stuff ..
 

soggykitten

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Adapt 2030 .. David Dubyne has been doing weekly videos for a while reporting on weather around earth .. He is on no ones pay roll that I know of .. Very interesting and frightening stuff ..
November 29, 2018
This fact-checker got several news outlets to correct a false story about a mini-Ice Age
The story warned of “long cold winter” that could bring record-low temperatures to Earth over the next few months. It even compared the impending event to the Little Ice Age of the 17th century.

Despite appearing in Fox News, two daily newspapers in the United Kingdom and at least 12 local radio shows, the claim is false — and its origin is a classic case of what Emmanuel Vincent likes to think of as media telephone.

“It’s an illustration of how you go from a scientist saying something, a blog imitating some information, a newspaper covering that blog and online social media just completely jumping away from what it meant originally,” said Vincent, founder and project lead at fact-checking project Climate Feedback. “At the end, the story has changed a lot.”

The mini-Ice Age story — which claimed that sunspot activity on the surface of the Sun has dropped, causing an impending dip in temperatures — first flared up on blogs like the Space Weather Archive. A NASA official told the site in late September that they’d been seeing a cooling trend in the Earth’s atmosphere, which could set a Space Age record for cold.

Nowhere in the blog post did the author claim that the phenomenon could affect temperatures on the planet’s surface. But a Nov. 16 news story from Metro, a free daily newspaper in the United Kingdom, that cited the blog post bore the headline: “A mini ice age could be on the way and it’s going to get very, very cold."

“It can be misunderstood if you don’t really realize (the scientists were) talking about the cooling of the upper reaches in the atmosphere, very high in the thermosphere zone,” said Vincent, who has a doctorate in oceanography and climate.

Climate Feedback debunked the Metro story Nov. 20, citing the original NASA source and a climate scientist who clarified that there’s no relationship between the temperature of the thermosphere and the weather on Earth’s surface. In a subsequent email, the author of the Metro story told the fact-checker that he made a mistake.

“(Metro) wasn’t the first one to report on that. So maybe he was influenced by other coverage in other blogs that made that jump,” Vincent said. “He wasn’t the kind of person saying this was real. He got duped by others doing that.”

Metro corrected its story, dramatically changing its headline and lead in the process. But it was already too late.

The same day that Metro published its story about the alleged mini-Ice Age, The Sun, another daily newspaper in the U.K., published one foreshadowing a “deep freeze” based on the same misunderstanding of the NASA scientist’s quote. Fox News republished that article on its website, amassing nearly 7,000 Facebook engagements as of publication, according to BuzzSumo.

Sputnik, The Drudge Report and even Sarah Palin also amplified the false claim, according to a Climate Feedback analysis.

“It’s not just what the newspaper says — it’s what the newspaper allows people to say on social media,” Vincent said. “If you look at people on social media, they go much further. There’s a Facebook page called ClimateChangeIsNatural. They said, ‘Look, this is a story that says global warming is fake.’”

Larger conspiratorial blogs, such as IceAgeNow, also rewrote and amplified false claims from Metro, getting nearly 30,000 Facebook engagements as of publication, according to BuzzSumo. Like Metro, Fox and The Sun have also since corrected their stories.

This wasn’t the first time that mainstream media were duped into amplifying falsehoods about climate change, Vincent said.

In November 2016, The Daily Mail reported that new data indicated El Niño was responsible for record highs in global temperatures, not man-made emissions. But that story cherry-picked the facts, selecting only one record and ignoring the data’s limitations, so Climate Feedback debunked it.

In another example, the Australian edition of weekly British magazine The Spectator published an article in August 2017 with the false claim that climate change is mostly natural. In its debunk, Climate Feedback reported that the story was based on a bogus scientific study in a notoriously unreliable journal.

“In this case, it's a big lack of verification from the journalists themselves,” Vincent said. “They just take some information and amplify it — they’re not taking the time to verify it.”
 

Roughsoul1991

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I appreciate your chart on polluting nations I agree, the globalist regulations are being pushed on developed (Western Nations) while communist China and 3rd world countries get a free pollution pass?

I have studied the issue of (Climate Change), it appears to be man made, pushed falsely through media hype, and used as a globalist tool, shifting wealth from western world countries to communist and 3rd world nations.

USA professor (Michael Mann) is a key figure in (Climate Gate) in his hockey stick graph, as world scientist changed numbers and models in fraudulent manipulation, to show warming trends and higher temps, better known as (Climategate), stolen email that completely reveal the globalist (Fraud)

(Hide The Decline)

Wikipedia: The Climatic Research Unit email controversy (also known as "Climategate") began in November 2009 with the hacking of a server at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia (UEA) by an external attacker, copying thousands of emails and computer files (the Climatic Research Unit documents) to various internet locations several weeks before the Copenhagen Summit on climate change.
It does seem very convenient how it is so called a majority scientific consensus in America but all over the world scientists speak out against it.

In 2010, Marc Morano released a collection of more than 1000 scientists who “challenged man-made global warming claims.”

https://www.mrc.org/articles/only-50-scientists-blame-mankind-climate-change-new-study
 

soggykitten

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Don't know if it is all a man made hoax but it sure has produced man made lucrative businesses.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Don't know if it is all a man made hoax but it sure has produced man-made lucrative businesses.
Unfortunately, our country couldn't even by a bipartisan look at the facts, evidence, counterclaims, and come to a logical consensus on promoting the health of our environments and planet. But nope unfortunately we have to worry about more dire issues like unborn slaughter, 1st Amendment rights, a socialist takeover, a growing threat called China, riots, etc. If we didn't have current issues that threaten your life or way of life then we would have the liberty to talk about the issue of climate change and what is causing it. If real then in current events, it isn't the greatest threat. Mankind will probably divide and fight all the way until the end or Biblically at Armageddon.
 

Truth7t7

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Don't know if it is all a man made hoax but it sure has produced man made lucrative businesses.
The globe is in a cooling process, exactly the opposite of what these fraud scientist are saying.

They have been caught in (Climate Gate) showing how they intentionally created fraudulent charts, graphs, and studies to show a false global warming.

Grant monies from around the world keeps their lies going on, not to mention the special interest in corporate profits.

Clobal Warming is a man made hoax!
 

bojack

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We had another good summer and its cooling off just fine now where I live .. In Wilmington NC where I have a little place our community is still at 17'above sea level, the same as when the community was started in the 60s .. Sea levels up and down the East coast show a small rise since they began recording them and the West coast mostly unchanged since recording began .. Any changes are more likely due to continental drift especially in remote ocean islands, some are rising and some are affected by trade winds slightly moving due to a cooling trend ..
 

soggykitten

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The globe is in a cooling process, exactly the opposite of what these fraud scientist are saying.

They have been caught in (Climate Gate) showing how they intentionally created fraudulent charts, graphs, and studies to show a false global warming.

Grant monies from around the world keeps their lies going on, not to mention the special interest in corporate profits.

Clobal Warming is a man made hoax!
The Chicken Little syndrome.
Look at how much money spend thinking they're reducing their carbon footprint. Carbon footprint loosely translated to mean, apologize for existing.

Electric cars!CFB bulbs, wind turbines, on and on. It's all nonsense and fakery.

I have a neighbor that leased a new Prius every year. Their boss owns a Tesla. They're so happy to be doing their part to save the planet. I think that's rather arrogant. Thinking we can save the planet from ourselves.
I couldn't help myself one day last summer when the neighbor is outside washing and waxing his newest model.
We chit chatted awhile and then I asked him, do you know how electricity is produced? :LOL:
Now he's driving a convertible VW that burns diesel! :ROFL:
 

Truth7t7

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The Chicken Little syndrome.
Look at how much money spend thinking they're reducing their carbon footprint. Carbon footprint loosely translated to mean, apologize for existing.

Electric cars!CFB bulbs, wind turbines, on and on. It's all nonsense and fakery.

I have a neighbor that leased a new Prius every year. Their boss owns a Tesla. They're so happy to be doing their part to save the planet. I think that's rather arrogant. Thinking we can save the planet from ourselves.
I couldn't help myself one day last summer when the neighbor is outside washing and waxing his newest model.
We chit chatted awhile and then I asked him, do you know how electricity is produced? :LOL:
Now he's driving a convertible VW that burns diesel! :ROFL:
I agree, the electric vehicle is a scam!

You have to produce the electricity (Power Plants) then the efficiency loss in transmitting, and charging batteries?

Huge efficiency loss over a diesel engine.

The hybrid that gains efficiency while breaking or going down hills is a good thing, while using a combustion engine.

In San Francisco it's almost mandatory to have a hybrid or electric to get jobs at the big tech companies, it's 100% political.
 

Magenta

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We can't eliminate plastic overnight. We can work towards biodegradable containers.
Some stores have elimated plasic bags already, and many people are by now familiar with the BYOB (bring your own bag) principle of recycling, and/or use cloth/canvas/nylon/thermal bags to grocery shop :) I think here where I live, there is only one food chain that still gives plastic bags for free; everywhere else they cost money, and when money becomes involves, people become a little more conscientious :D Plastic is a real problem because not only is it near indestructible (naturally), but it is ubiquitous in our food chain, and carries toxins that interfere with quite a few bodily functions, including reproduction.
 

Nehemiah6

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Global Warming, Is It A Man Made Hoax?
Claiming that global warming is man-made is a hoax, just like making the same claim for Climate Change. The sad fact is that Western leaders and politicians prefer hoaxes to the truth, since that allows them to proceed with their anti-freedom agenda, and enables them to enslave people slyly.

And now we have the Wuhan Virus Pandemic Hoax, which has finally allowed almost all Western governments to establish Totalitarianism (in the name of *health protection*). People are being arrested for refusing to wear masks, or for joining anti-mask protests!


When the Antichrist establishes his reign, he will also use similar tactics, and claim that the Mark of the Beast is "for your safety, security, and well-being". There is hardly anyone today who is opposing the loss of freedoms in the West. So there will be little or no opposition to the Anti-Christ.
 

Truth7t7

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Claiming that global warming is man-made is a hoax, just like making the same claim for Climate Change. The sad fact is that Western leaders and politicians prefer hoaxes to the truth, since that allows them to proceed with their anti-freedom agenda, and enables them to enslave people slyly.

And now we have the Wuhan Virus Pandemic Hoax, which has finally allowed almost all Western governments to establish Totalitarianism (in the name of *health protection*). People are being arrested for refusing to wear masks, or for joining anti-mask protests!


When the Antichrist establishes his reign, he will also use similar tactics, and claim that the Mark of the Beast is "for your safety, security, and well-being". There is hardly anyone today who is opposing the loss of freedoms in the West. So there will be little or no opposition to the Anti-Christ.
I fully agree the leftist are using every avenue to remove freedoms in false created narratives.

However you mention the Antichrist and claim his use of tactics?

The Holy Bible (Clearly) identify's the tactic to be used, (False Miracles) deceiving those that receive the mark (Willfully)

Why do you continue to ignore this fact?

Revelation 13:11-14KJV

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast
; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
 

Truth7t7

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Some stores have elimated plasic bags already, and many people are by now familiar with the BYOB (bring your own bag) principle of recycling, and/or use cloth/canvas/nylon/thermal bags to grocery shop :) I think here where I live, there is only one food chain that still gives plastic bags for free; everywhere else they cost money, and when money becomes involves, people become a little more conscientious :D Plastic is a real problem because not only is it near indestructible (naturally), but it is ubiquitous in our food chain, and carries toxins that interfere with quite a few bodily functions, including reproduction.
(BYOB) Bring Your Own Bag?

In my lived teen years, that was on the flyers as (Bring Your Own Beer) to the party.

Times have changed, Big Smiles!
 

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As I understand it, Global Warming is the wrong term to use. Climate Change is the truthful term to describe what our earth goes through every day of every year of every decade, since God instituted the Seasons.

The climate has always been in a state of flux. There have always been periods of warming and cooling. I do not believe there is any such thing as "normal" when it comes to our climate/weather. Average or normal temperatures are nothing more than a number reached through adding all the highs and lows together and dividing them to find such a number. Why anyone puts faith in such is a mystery to me.

The real issue is what role man plays in this ever changing event we call climate. Man surely has some measurable role, but I do not believe that role is nearly as terrible as the alarmist want us to believe.

So many natural events that occur daily, seasonally, yearly, or from time to time have a greater impact than man ever will. The main contributor (as I read) are volcanos. Followed by earthquakes that open up chasms in the earth that allow harmful gasses to escape into the atmosphere and into our oceans.

Just a few thoughts from me.