Where is Jesus physically now?

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Magenta

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Jesus has no soul. Jesus is the human vessel of God. Whilst a physical body, he suffers pains and temptations, yet being owned by God, is without sin.
"Now my soul is troubled, and what shall I say? 'Father, save me from this hour'?
No, it was for this very reason I came to this hour."
Jesus' words in John 12:27
 
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Thank you, DorotheaSofia, I am grateful to you and @Happy2020 for the opportunity to share and testify of God's goodness, graciousness, long-suffering and patience toward me, for it means more to me than anything else to know the love of God, and experience His forgiveness through Jesus Christ.
You're acting like God and Jesus are separate entities. Jesus is the 'suit' God 'wore' in his physical carnation. One is the same person regardless of the clothes they wear.
 

Magenta

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I can't be called upon to prove a negative. It's like me asking you if there's any scripture to prove Jesus isn't gay.

Great point. Since Jesus is fully human, he must have a soul. The question is, where does his soul reside, since his body is occupied by God?
Since homosex is a sin and Jesus is sinless, it should be apparent that Jesus was not gay :censored::oops:
 

DorotheaSofia

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Thank you, DorotheaSofia, I am grateful to you and @Happy2020 for the opportunity to share and testify of God's goodness, graciousness, long-suffering and patience toward me, for it means more to me than anything else to know the love of God, and experience His forgiveness through Jesus Christ.
And I´m grateful that you testified! It is so important that we believers help each other all the time.
 
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Since homosex is a sin and Jesus is sinless, it should be apparent that Jesus was not gay:censored:
Being a homosexual is not a sin
I do not think so! I have a video suggestion for you, it is on youtube and talks about those verses. It is by Savannah Lewie and it´s quite recent, so I think you should be able to find it.
you don't think WHAT?
 

Happy2020

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Since homosex is a sin and Jesus is sinless, it should be apparent that Jesus was not gay:censored::oops:
Hahaha! I like you! Very smart answer! :) Thanks for sharing your story it was wonderful! I think we should leave Rox...I don't think it is going anywhere!

You should be a teacher if you are not already. I am sure many women can benefit from you.
 

Happy2020

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I do not think that those verses show Jesus is not God.
I think you should go do that assignment you have or you will just go in circles! I am glad you have been encouraged along the way here! Praise G-d! :) I really hope you will be blessed and full of strength to serve and defend G-d & Our Saviour! :)
 

DorotheaSofia

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I think you should go do that assignment you have or you will just go in circles! I am glad you have been encouraged along the way here! Praise G-d! :) I really hope you will be blessed and full of strength to serve and defend G-d & Our Saviour! :)
Haha you are right, can one tell I don´t really look forward to that assignment ;)
God bless you too!
 

Happy2020

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Haha you are right, can one tell I don´t really look forward to that assignment ;)
God bless you too!
What are you studying exactly? School is open where you are or just online courses? I finished my degree and I am glad not to be in a systematic school anymore lol
 

Magenta

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Hahaha! I like you! Very smart answer! :) Thanks for sharing your story it was wonderful! I think we should leave Rox...I don't think it is going anywhere!

You should be a teacher if you are not already. I am sure many women can benefit from you.
You are very kind :love:

I do spend a great deal of time here, as online apologetics has been a large part of my life for many years now :)

I have been very fortunate in this regard also, for I was allowed to be online while at my job when there was nothing else to do, and so during this COVID thing, with self-isolating, even though I have been laid off work since mid March, my life has not changed a great deal, as I am doing the same thing I have done, which is being here, and also designing panels for Scripture verses. Oh, I started doing that not quite three years ago, though I have "played " with images for longer than that, and even there can see God's hand in this, for I have been employed in the photofinishing industry for the last 44 years, and even that, since it was the only thing I knew I wanted to do professionally, and started my first job on the very day of my 21st birthday, I have always considered that a gift as well :) God is good!

Though I must admit, it takes a lot of energy to be here, and I am running a bit low on that these days, having been diagnosed with cancer in late February, and undergoing major surgery for it mid August. But God is good and I praise the Lord!
 

Happy2020

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You are very kind :love:

I do spend a great deal of time here, as online apologetics has been a large part of my life for many years now :)

I have been very fortunate in this regard also, for I was allowed to be online while at my job when there was nothing else to do, and so during this COVID thing, with self-isolating, even though I have been laid off work since mid March, my life has not changed a great deal, as I am doing the same thing I have done, which is being here, and also designing panels for Scripture verses. Oh, I started doing that not quite three years ago, though I have "played " with images for longer than that, and even there can see God's hand in this, for I have been employed in the photofinishing industry for the last 44 years, and even that, since it was the only thing I knew I wanted to do professionally, and started my first job on the very day of my 21st birthday, I have always considered that a gift as well :) God is good!

Though I must admit, it takes a lot of energy to be here, and I am running a bit low on that these days, having been diagnosed with cancer in late February, and undergoing major surgery for it mid August. But God is good and I praise the Lord!
You are someone who is lighting up people's lives. You should do your best to continue to reach out to women. They need a "Sarah" in their lives, especially young ones who have little elder guidance. It is the elders than provide wisdom. Have a chatroom or email available for them. Praise G-d that He loves you so much!!!

I don't need to know if you don't want to share, but I'll tell you something. G-d runs on measure for measure (but all for our Good even if we don't see it). So if I bumped my foot, I probably did something wrong with my foot to deserve it, or if someone yelled at me, it's probably because I yelled at someone etc. That being said, depending where this virus is, maybe it would be good to deeply reflect what you might have done with this part of the body and repent heavily on this. If it is not possible to reverse what has been done...then next best option is to teach others who not to do the same sin.

The best biblical proof I can give is the life of Cain. Cain is the very first person to actually repent and own up to his mistake. Adam and Eve did not, they blamed someone else. Then the bible emphasizes on the details of Cain's life. Since he murdered and cannot undo it, what did he do? He built "cities". He was a man trying to repair relationships by building them and growing communities where strife between brothers wouldn't occur. So this teaches us that there is a way and look, G-d protected Him when he was remorseful.

I hope this helps! :)
 
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"Now my soul is troubled, and what shall I say? 'Father, save me from this hour'?
No, it was for this very reason I came to this hour."
Jesus' words in John 12:27
Either:

1) He has a human soul, distinct from the essence of God

2) He is God referring to the essence of God
 

Magenta

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Either:

1) He has a human soul, distinct from the essence of God

2) He is God referring to the essence of God
It is not always either/or. Jesus said He and the Father were one.

Jesus made reference to His soul. Soul is physical being combined with the breath of God.

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed
into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Genesis 2:7
 
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It is not always either/or. Jesus said He and the Father were one.

Jesus made reference to His soul. Soul is the combination of physical being with the breath of God.
Then why does he refer to the Father as being distinct from himself, as Trinitarians argue they are?