Has anyone had any luck going into stores wearing a "breathable mask?"

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No. The Bible shows that there isn't any human who is infallible, both in behavior and in opinion. That's why we must trust God's Word above all else. True - we may believe things not in the Bible - but nothing we believe should go against anything in the Bible.
What has the CDC said that goes against the bible?
 

gb9

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The thing is,we now have PRECEDENT.

.....for the next flu

The next propaganda

The next deception

The next non pandemic

The next orders "to protect you"

The next lockdown

Once you start submitting your freedom..a little here.....a little there........


They never give it back.

They have duped the entire world.

Last days deception

We are in the birthpangs.

different train of thought-

what if the next "pandemic " is real, but since this one is so overhyped and overcounted , not many folks take it seriously , and many do get sick and die.

the boy who cried wolf syndrome .
 

MyrtleTrees

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What has the CDC said that goes against the bible?
Here is what I'd say is in error with CDC: They are claiming that Coronvirus is a widespread, terrible plague, which there's no evidence to support. It tries to take away the freedom of people to make their own choices in life. God always wants people to have that freedom. Though He does advocate the government's right to punish wrongdoers. But making health decisions should not be implied to be a crime. In fact, God's Word says we should always seek God's guidance in life before making any decisions of life in daily life. That's how Abraham and the Bible patriarchs lived, and also Jesus and also all of God's people mentioned in the Bible.
 

MyrtleTrees

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The thing is,we now have PRECEDENT.

.....for the next flu

The next propaganda

The next deception

The next non pandemic

The next orders "to protect you"

The next lockdown

Once you start submitting your freedom..a little here.....a little there........


They never give it back.

They have duped the entire world.

Last days deception

We are in the birthpangs.
 

MyrtleTrees

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True - it would be horrible to lose our God-given freedoms here in the USA! So we need to do all we can to prevent the loss of those very important freedoms!
 
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Here is what I'd say is in error with CDC: They are claiming that Coronvirus is a widespread, terrible plague, which there's no evidence to support. It tries to take away the freedom of people to make their own choices in life. God always wants people to have that freedom. Though He does advocate the government's right to punish wrongdoers. But making health decisions should not be implied to be a crime. In fact, God's Word says we should always seek God's guidance in life before making any decisions of life in daily life. That's how Abraham and the Bible patriarchs lived, and also Jesus and also all of God's people mentioned in the Bible.
What kind of evidence would you deem acceptable?You say they are trying to take away our freedom to make our own choices?

What If someone chose to kill someone and somebody said no,would that be taking away their freedom to make their own choice?

GOD said love your neighbor.

How can a person say I love my neighbor out of their mouth and then out of the same mouth say I want to do what I want to do regardless of my neighbor?

I hope someone thinking like That don’t cause my sweet grandmother to die.
 

John146

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What kind of evidence would you deem acceptable?You say they are trying to take away our freedom to make our own choices?

What If someone chose to kill someone and somebody said no,would that be taking away their freedom to make their own choice?

GOD said love your neighbor.

How can a person say I love my neighbor out of their mouth and then out of the same mouth say I want to do what I want to do regardless of my neighbor?

I hope someone thinking like That don’t cause my sweet grandmother to die.
There is much evidence coming out now that masks do not work against viruses. It is a ploy to install fear in people. We get through a pandemic by going through it not around it. And I understand what you are saying about loving your neighbor, but wearing a mask may do more harm than good.
 

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No, I believe it is round! Ships would fall off if it were flat.
Antarctica stops the ships falling off. They would struggle to get over the ice wall, even in a severe storm. Have you considered the Earth is actually both round and flat? Like a circle. Isaiah 40:22 actually described God as sitting enthroned above the circle of the Earth (not "sphere", or "ball", of the Earth. :)
 

Moses_Young

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There is much evidence coming out now that masks do not work against viruses. It is a ploy to install fear in people. We get through a pandemic by going through it not around it. And I understand what you are saying about loving your neighbor, but wearing a mask may do more harm than good.
Wearing masks is a religious symbol. Similar to those undertaken by the Freemasons. Which is appropriate, seeing this whole scamdemic was most likely organised by Freemasons.

Those who advocate wearing masks are advocating initiating mankind into a Covid religion of these Mason's making.
 

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You have mis-stated my argument. Viruses have never been isolated under an electron microscope, and inserted into a subject organism, causing the pathology the virus is said to cause.
you're quite wrong.

infecting human patients with a virus for study is considered abhorrent the world over. but such things as rats etc are used in studies of viral pathology all the time -- here is one of thousands of examples where a virus was isolated and introduced to a lab animal, producing the symptoms 'associated' with viral ((not exosomic -those are very different things of very different scales)) infection:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7086715/

again, you made the claim this has 'never been done' -- but it happens to be routine practice, done countless times in a very well documented way
 

Lanolin

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rats are used for testing because they reproduce very quickly their life cycle is very rapid.

But viruses dont always produce the same symptoms in different creatures.

a lot of drug testing is actually done on prisoners, with and without their consent.
 

Moses_Young

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you're quite wrong.

infecting human patients with a virus for study is considered abhorrent the world over. but such things as rats etc are used in studies of viral pathology all the time -- here is one of thousands of examples where a virus was isolated and introduced to a lab animal, producing the symptoms 'associated' with viral ((not exosomic -those are very different things of very different scales)) infection:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7086715/

again, you made the claim this has 'never been done' -- but it happens to be routine practice, done countless times in a very well documented way
Read the section on virus "isolation".

"Virus Isolation
Specimens of enlarged submaxillary glands were removed aseptically" from five Jcl:SD rats (9 to 10 weeks old) showing neck swelling at the second day after onset in an outbreak. The 10 per cent homogenates were prepared separately and clarified by low-speed centrifugation. Each homogenate was inoculated i.e. at approximately 0.02 ml/mouse into groups of ten 2-day-old suckling mice,
which were then housed immediately in a vinyl isolator and observed for 14 days. "

In other words - there was no virus isolation. The experimenters simply took diseased glands from 5 poor rats, homogenised and clarifed these via low-speed centrifuge, and injected into some hapless mice. That is not isolation of the alleged virus.

Similar deceit (whether wilful or ignorant) is undoubtedly the reason for the other "thousands of examples" where a virus is claimed to be isolated, but actually (and scientifically) wasn't.

This is also consistent with the recent freedom of information requests made to various governments for proof of the (isolated) coronavirus, and the typical government responses that the coronavirus has not been able to be isolated (i.e. no such proof exists). The fact is, no virus has ever been isolated (as verified under an electron microscope), and then demonstrated to be the cause of the disease that the virus is said to claim (by introducing it into other healthy subjects).

"Virus Mania: How the Medical Industry Continually Invents Epidemics, Making Billion-Dollar Profits At Our Expense", by journalist Torsten Engelbrecht and doctor of internal medicine Claus Köhnlein, was published in 2007, but is especially valid today. Virus propaganda ignores very basic scientific facts: the existence, the pathogenicity and the deadly effects of so-called viruses have never been proven.
 

posthuman

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Read the section on virus "isolation".

"Virus Isolation
Specimens of enlarged submaxillary glands were removed aseptically" from five Jcl:SD rats (9 to 10 weeks old) showing neck swelling at the second day after onset in an outbreak. The 10 per cent homogenates were prepared separately and clarified by low-speed centrifugation. Each homogenate was inoculated i.e. at approximately 0.02 ml/mouse into groups of ten 2-day-old suckling mice,
which were then housed immediately in a vinyl isolator and observed for 14 days. "

In other words - there was no virus isolation. The experimenters simply took diseased glands from 5 poor rats, homogenised and clarifed these via low-speed centrifuge, and injected into some hapless mice. That is not isolation of the alleged virus.

Similar deceit (whether wilful or ignorant) is undoubtedly the reason for the other "thousands of examples" where a virus is claimed to be isolated, but actually (and scientifically) wasn't.

This is also consistent with the recent freedom of information requests made to various governments for proof of the (isolated) coronavirus, and the typical government responses that the coronavirus has not been able to be isolated (i.e. no such proof exists). The fact is, no virus has ever been isolated (as verified under an electron microscope), and then demonstrated to be the cause of the disease that the virus is said to claim (by introducing it into other healthy subjects).

"Virus Mania: How the Medical Industry Continually Invents Epidemics, Making Billion-Dollar Profits At Our Expense", by journalist Torsten Engelbrecht and doctor of internal medicine Claus Köhnlein, was published in 2007, but is especially valid today. Virus propaganda ignores very basic scientific facts: the existence, the pathogenicity and the deadly effects of so-called viruses have never been proven.
you either did not read the whole document, did not understand what you were reading, or purposefully quoted a part of it that was not applicable to the point you wanted to make in order to misrepresent the study and make your false comments appear true.



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they isolated viral specimens and examined them under electron microscopes.
this is extremely common practice widely performed. if you had any actual education in microbiology you would have performed similar procedures in labs as part of your degree.
 

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what do ya'll think about the (30's), black-syphilis, government program???
is there really anything 'new under the sun'???

one thing is very certain, and that is, that the carnal-man can NEVER be TRUSTED!!!
 

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you either did not read the whole document, did not understand what you were reading, or purposefully quoted a part of it that was not applicable to the point you wanted to make in order to misrepresent the study and make your false comments appear true.
Or perhaps I did read it, did understand it, and did summarise it correctly, but what I stated was not in accordance with what you want to believe? :)

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they isolated viral specimens and examined them under electron microscopes.
Please quote the text that states the virus was isolated. The text does not. The 3T3 cells (i.e. not the virus) were harvested, subjected to freezing/thawing (3 cycles), centrifuged, pellets obtained and examined with an ultramicroscope. There was no isolation/purification. That this step was not done (or not performed successfully) is seen reported in the range of particle sizes, between 85 and 125nm. If a virus replicates itself (as claimed in virus theory) and the virus was successfully isolated, there would be a single particle size, not a range of sizes.

this is extremely common practice widely performed. if you had any actual education in microbiology you would have performed similar procedures in labs as part of your degree.
This is the "appeal to authority" logical fallacy.

If isolation of a virus is routinely done in pathology studies, why wasn't it done for coronavirus? If it was done for coronavirus, why do the government science organisations of the world say that no such study/proof exists? Here is a small selection of this universal trend (for the honest organisations - the dishonest ones just don't reply). Note also in the second FOI request, the UK Department of Health and Social Care actually goes so far as to say that viruses can't be isolated and given to a test subject to cause the pathology the virus is said to cause. If such virus isolation is routinely done in pathology studies (as you claim), doesn't it occur to you as odd that the UK Department of Health and Social Care not only doesn't know this, but goes so far as to say it can't be done?

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https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/u-k...re-has-no-record-of-covid-19-virus-isolation/

you are wrong. clearly, demonstrably wrong. i don't know what conspiracy videos you're watching, but they're bunk.

Routine virus isolation or detection in the diagnosis of diseases in birds R.E. Gough , D.J. Alexander , M.S. Collins , S.A. Lister & W.J. Cox
I referenced a book, and posted some facts. If anyone is using bunk science, I suggest it might be you, based on your reference to a study claiming that a virus was isolated, where it demonstrates/reports something totally different to this. Remember, there are possibly hundreds of thousands, or perhaps millions, of scientists around the world who believe in evolutionism, and believe that there are scientific studies to demonstrate it. All these scientists are wrong. Truth is not determined by popularity (i.e. the bandwagon logical fallacy), and people can be persuaded of pseudoscience by a multitude of reasons.

here is the line of text you claim exists nowhere ((but it's on page 4, huh)):


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Virus identification is not isolation. I'm well aware of what some scientists claim are viruses. However, as stated previously, these have never been isolated (read: purified), as demonstrated under an electron microscope, and injected into a subject organism to generate the pathology the virus is said to cause. Either there is no isolation (as in the study you posted), or there is no demonstration of pathology.
 
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The mask Is for protecting your neighbor though.
You don't get it.

If that is true,then the mask will become law.

There is NO PANDEMIC.....NONE.
A virus that is EASILY KILLED is not a pandemic.

Look up the causes of death numbers.

Now if they can get you to go with this fake pandemic....you will now live a permanent mask society.

If you people are that paranoid NEEDLESSLY...just get a bubble to live in.