When Jesus 'broke the rules'

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

tourist

Senior Member
Mar 13, 2014
41,243
16,252
113
69
Tennessee
Boloney. You didn't read it. She spoke conjecture about the Sabbath. Go back and find the original post and my original reply to it.
My doctrine is sound; she was proven wrong by 5 Scriptural references. To God alone be glory.
Just about everyone here offers their opinion on certain spiritual points and that in itself is conjecture. Just because you do not agree with a member's perception does not necessarily mean that it is heresy.
 

tourist

Senior Member
Mar 13, 2014
41,243
16,252
113
69
Tennessee
Really? You're uninformed.
Christ never broke "a rule" or a law. Jesus is the law. If Jesus had broken the law/ordinance it would make Him unacceptable as a sacrifice. To break the law/ordinance is sin. If Jesus broke the law we all go to hell.

As I've quoted elsewhere Jesus told us that it's not a sin to do good on the Sabbath.
It is against the law to work on the Sabbath.

The level of heresy on this chat site is very offputting. Do you people read your Holy Bibles? It's sad and tragic at the same time. God is omnipresent but yet you people don't have the truth...

Jesus never sinned. To break the law (aka rule as you called it) is sin.

Why do you people defend what is WRONG and not rejoice in the truth?
Love rejoices with truth.... Aka the peace of Christ.
I believe that the problem lies not in the truth but in how you present the truth.
 

soggykitten

Well-known member
Jul 3, 2020
2,322
1,369
113
I'm not surprised. Some people can't handle the truth.
Personally, given their mannerisms in their posts I don't think they were here for the truth. I think they were here to mock us and our faith.
 

Blik

Senior Member
Dec 6, 2016
7,312
2,424
113
Some join this site for the exact express purpose.
It is almost the majority on this site who cannot discuss scripture without trying to shoot others down with words. They don't discuss scripture but hurl mean words at anyone who does not agree with them.

Jesus told us not to try shooting mean words at others, even to calling them a fool. I have even read posts calling someone a devil, saying they were a fool would be mild.

I wish sponsors of this site would stop such tactics, but even those in authority on this site joins in becoming an enemy instead of discussing issues.
 
Jun 25, 2020
188
103
28
well, I never said Jesus broke the law. in fact, just the opposite

you can go to the back of the class :)

imagine a person can insert themself into a thread, totally misread it but decide they need to teach others the truth when they have missed the truth being presented

oh wait. we don't have to imagine :rolleyes:
Hello Lenna

You are contradicting yourself. The title of your thread says "When Jesus broke the rules"
Even in what you have stated in your thread implies that you believe that Jesus broke the law.

Prior to even writing this thread, you said that you were going to create a thread about when Jesus broke the rules.

The bible is not an easy book to understand and we have all misunderstood certain parts of scripture and have learned later on that we were incorrect. You are not the only one who has misinterpreted the bible.
It is better to say that you was wrong about what you initially believed and you have repented.


1603339687709.png

1603339712016.png

1603339727216.png
 

Blik

Senior Member
Dec 6, 2016
7,312
2,424
113
Hello Lenna

You are contradicting yourself. The title of your thread says "When Jesus broke the rules"
Even in what you have stated in your thread implies that you believe that Jesus broke the law.

Prior to even writing this thread, you said that you were going to create a thread about when Jesus broke the rules.

The bible is not an easy book to understand and we have all misunderstood certain parts of scripture and have learned later on that we were incorrect. You are not the only one who has misinterpreted the bible.
It is better to say that you was wrong about what you initially believed and you have repented.


View attachment 222108

View attachment 222109

View attachment 222110
The rules and the law are two different things.
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
24,167
12,763
113
The rules and the law are two different things.
Correct. The rules were man-made and flawed. The Law was from God and therefore perfect.

Jesus of Nazareth obeyed the Law of Moses perfectly, and also fulfilled it. Therefore He ushered in the New Covenant, ratified with His own blood.
 

BenjaminN

Well-known member
Oct 7, 2020
1,504
307
83
Correct. The rules were man-made and flawed. The Law was from God and therefore perfect.

Jesus of Nazareth obeyed the Law of Moses perfectly, and also fulfilled it. Therefore He ushered in the New Covenant, ratified with His own blood.
Yes, God's laws are now written on our hearts with the blood of Jesus. Jesus who is the perfect example of living in obedience to God's laws.


Hebrews 8 (ESV)


10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
 
L

lenna

Guest
Hello Lenna

You are contradicting yourself. The title of your thread says "When Jesus broke the rules"
Even in what you have stated in your thread implies that you believe that Jesus broke the law.

Prior to even writing this thread, you said that you were going to create a thread about when Jesus broke the rules.

The bible is not an easy book to understand and we have all misunderstood certain parts of scripture and have learned later on that we were incorrect. You are not the only one who has misinterpreted the bible.
It is better to say that you was wrong about what you initially believed and you have repented.


View attachment 222108

View attachment 222109

View attachment 222110

you have obviously not thread

you are completely skewed on your opinions of what I said

if you cannot be bothered to read the thread, because it does not say anything about Jesus being a sinner, then kindly refrain from trying to condemn the thread

It is better to say that you was wrong about what you initially believed and you have repented.
this is exactly what you should do. I have been here for years and you just arrived in June. If I had heretical beliefs they would banned me a long time ago
 
L

lenna

Guest
Yes, God's laws are now written on our hearts with the blood of Jesus. Jesus who is the perfect example of living in obedience to God's laws.


Hebrews 8 (ESV)


10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

what are you even talking about?

this is not a thread about law

Jesus is the end of the law. His work is finished. the 10 commandments were summed up by Jesus when He said love God and love your neighbor

we now have the Holy Spirit indwelling us and the law was only a shadow of what was to come...God's plan of restoration to all of mankind through the blood of His Son

people who are focused on the law cannot be focused on salvation at the same time
 
L

lenna

Guest
READ THE THREAD PEOPLE. READ THE THREAD

nowhere in this thread has anyone said Jesus sinned

if you cannot take the time to actually read and understand that, then you perhaps need to ask yourself if you think your opinion is more important than the facts
 
L

lenna

Guest
The rules and the law are two different things.
like I said, read the thread

you are so focused on keeping parts of the law yourself that you cannot understand I am not even posting about the law

this thread is about JESUS. not the law or any part of it

stop focusing on the law and focus on JESUS
 
L

lenna

Guest
MY POST AGAIN FROM PAGE 2 OF THIS THREAD, # 38

I would agree that the law was not written for some to condemn others. the law was given for this reason:

19Why then was the law given? It was added because of transgressions, until the arrival of the seed to whom the promise referred. It was administered through angels by a mediator. 20A mediator is unnecessary, however, for only one party; but God is one.

21Is the law, then, opposed to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come from the law. 22But the Scripture pronounces all things confined by sin, so that by faith in Jesus Christ the promise might be given to those who believe.

23Before this faith came, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law became our guardian to lead us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
Galatians 3

further:

10 For since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities, it can never, by the same sacrifices that are continually offered every year, make perfect those who draw near. 2 Otherwise, would they not have ceased to be offered, since the worshipers, having once been cleansed, would no longer have any consciousness of sins? 3 But in these sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.

so we see from scripture the law was never meant to be the end or to create perfection as no human being has ever been able to keep all of it, hence the thousands of animals slaughtered as sacrifices for sins committed
 
L

lenna

Guest
HERE IS A POST FROM ANOTHER MEMBER WHO UNDERSTOOD THE THREAD

Tararose, post: 4398304, member: 301878"]Jesus did not actually break the law of God - in this instance or any other.
They wanted to Trick Him. Had he stoned her or Said ok stone her, he would have actually broken the law.... of course if he had said let her go free it would also have appeared he was breaking the law of Moses. This was because of how they presented Their question, very cunningly- or so they thought. Jesus as usual answered the matter of their hearts and showed mercy - all
Without breaking one letter of the law of God.
Here we see the actual law in question.
Deuteronomy 22:22-24
“If a man is found lying with the wife of another man, both of them shall die, the man who lay with the woman, and the woman. So you shall purge the evil from Israel. “If there is a betrothed virgin, and a man meets her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbor's wife. So you shall purge the evil from your midst.

Without the man she was committing the offence with, there was simply no evidence of their claim and the requirement of the law was not met. Nowhere does it say It is ok to stone only one of the adulterers. If she was, as they said, caught “in the act”, surely the man had been right there with her. Why had they not brought him also to be stoned? This was a deliberate attempt to trap Jesus into saying something they could twist as Jesus speaking or acting against the law.

Basically they were pushing him to be seen to Let a sinful Woman get away with breaking the law, Or To be seen to break the law in stoning her without the man - without the required evidence and requirements of the very law in question.
He wisely put the ball back in their courts.

Jesus could not and did not break the law of God or He could not have been our sacrifice.