1Corinthians 10 -- The Lord's table and the rapture

The three Jewish festivals of Trumpets, Atonement and Tabernacles are all included in our celebration of the Lord's table. This is significant because this year these three festivals all occur on the same day. Based on the calendar that Moses gave us and that is used in the Bible the Feast of Tabernacles takes place on the same day that the Festival of Trumpets and Day of Atonement take place using the calendar that Enoch gave us.

The book of Enoch is attested to by Jude, John, Peter and Paul. All of these apostles refer to this book or directly quote this book in their writings. So although the book is not part of the covenant we have with God it is a divinely inspired prophecy.

Also the book of Joel prophetically describes these three festivals all occurring on the same day and that this is the Day of the Lord and the day of the rapture.

Finally, the Lord warned the church in Sardis that if they did not watch for His appearing He would return on a day they did not expect and an hour they did not expect. Clearly such a warning would be ridiculous if you understand that the rapture takes place on a day that you will not know and an hour that you will not know (as is commonly taught in Christianity). The Lord also told us that because it comes on a day when you do not know the day nor the hour, therefore you need to watch. This can only make sense if He is referring to the Festival of Trumpets.

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I have been trying to figure out what is controversial about this particular blog. I can't see how anyone could dispute that the Lord in the New Testament did not give us the 3 OT festivals to keep (Trumpets, Atonement and Tabernacles) but rather gave us the Lord's table to keep. I also can't see how anyone could dispute that the Lord's table serves the purpose as a holy convocation concerning the wedding of the Lord and the coronation of the Lord. Nor do I see how anyone could dispute that during the Lord's table we have reflected on our salvation from the world and the typology of the Jews leaving Egypt and crossing the Red Sea or that you need to be baptized (pass through the Red Sea) to partake of the bread and wine. Therefore the Lord's table also replaces the feast of Tabernacles for us as well. Finally, we are told to examine ourselves prior to taking the Lord's table, very much in the same way that you are to prepare to meet your God prior to the day of Atonement.

Now obviously we know that both the festival of trumpets and day of atonement are celebrated on the same day during a jubilee year and that this is a jubilee year. Since this point has shown up in several of my posts without dispute I doubt that is the issue.

I could easily see that many would dispute that according to Moses calendar the Feast of Tabernacles is celebrated on October 31 this year. There is a lot of debate about this. Moses calendar sets the first day of the first month based on certain signs in the sky and it is the first New moon after these signs. One rule is that it must take place after the Spring equinox, which both sides of this debate agree on and both dates agree with as well. One group claims it was the day after the Spring Equinox. The one I subscribe to says it was a month after this. The second critical rule is that it must take place during the Barley harvest. This is where the debate rages, no one disagrees that this is one of the rules, but one side says it did, another says it didn't. However, common sense would suggest that if the very day after the equinox would occur after the Barley harvest then you don't need this rule, as long as it is after the equinox it will be good. The third rule is that if you set the first day of the year correctly then the Festival of trumpets will occur after the Fall equinox. It didn't. Simple math would let you know that having the first of the year occur less than one week after the Spring equinox will be problematic if not wrong. Still, to my mind it is a matter of debate. The calendar has not been well expounded on among the Christians as a general rule based on my personal experience. So at this point I am leaning 80% towards the October date for Trumpets and 20% for the September date.

That in turn means that the use of the calendar in Enoch would be the main cause of dispute. Why? Surely everyone agrees with the apostles that Enoch was a man of faith, listed in Hebrews 11, and that his prophecy (Enoch 1, not the other ones which are suspected frauds) is divinely inspired. The calendar he presents is quite different from Moses. To be continued.

So let's explain how the Enoch calendar works. As the earth revolves around the sun over the course of the year the Sun will set in one of 12 constellations. So from Earth's perspective think of it as a clock face with 12 constellations representing the 12 months. Meanwhile as we are revolving around the Sun the Moon is revolving around us and every 29.5 days it returns. The month begins when the Sun sets in a new constellation and coincidentally the Moon is also next to the Sun on this date. For some months it will take 30 days others will take 31, but in every case the Sun and Moon appear together at the start of a new month. This is like a clock, when the hour hand and minute hand are on the 12 it is the start of that hour. Think of the movement of the Sun as the hour hand and the movement of the moon as the minute hand.

This calendar is very useful in that you don't need leap years or anything like that, but it is very different from Moses' calendar because when the Moon and Sun line up it will not necessarily be a "new moon".

Since Moses is a type of Christ and since Jesus is the incarnated word I feel it is reasonable to say that the calendar in the Bible is from the Son. It is the Son's speaking.

Enoch on the other hand is not part of the Bible. The apostles testify that Enoch is divinely inspired (Jude and Peter directly quote Enoch, John's revelation makes numerous references to Enoch, and Hebrews says that Enoch was a man of faith in Heb 11). When you read his prophecy it is completely tied up with the angels, so it seems reasonable to say that his calendar is from the angels.

So here is the very interesting reason why all this matters. Based on Enoch's calendar October 31 is the tenth day of the seventh month, that would be both Trumpets and Atonement on a Jubilee year. If you subscribe to the understanding that Moses' calendar has Trumpets on October 16th (not September 18th) then Tabernacles is also on October 31. So in a bizarre way all three of these dates are on the same date: October 31.

Now that is more than a strange quirk because in Joel 2:15 Blow the trumpet in Zion, declare a holy fast, call a sacred assembly.
16 Gather the people, consecrate the assembly; bring together the elders, gather the children, those nursing at the breast.
Let the bridegroom leave his room and the bride her chamber. Gathering the people is a term that can certainly refer to the rapture. Blow the Trumpet is associated with the festival of trumpets, declare a holy fast is a term associated with the Day of Atonement, and call a sacred assembly is a term associated with the festival of tabernacles. Likewise, the bridegroom leaving his room and the bride her chamber is a term associated with the rapture and wedding. The entire context of Joel 2 is that the day of the Lord has come.

So then it is an interesting interpretation to say that the rapture will take place when these three days all occur on the same day. I think there is a 50/50 chance that this is what this verse is saying.

But what I then find quite interesting about it is how this connects to the Lord saying that of that day and hour knows no man, not the Son nor the angels but the heavenly father only. In other words there is no prophet or apostle in the Old or New Testament that tells us the day and hour, nor does Enoch, nor does Jesus. But why refer to the angels? It has nothing to do with the typology of the wedding. It could refer to Enoch's prophecy. But Jesus doesn't say that God the father doesn't know the day or the hour, and since both the word of God and Enoch's prophecy came from God the Father it is not unreasonable to say that He might have put a little here and a little there.

Because you still have to deal with the word to the church in Sardis where he tells them that if they don't watch he will come as a thief in the night and they won't know the day or the hour. That seems like a pointless warning if no one can know this through watching. To tell me that if I don't watch I won't know the day or the hour and will therefore suffer loss, sounds to me like if I do watch then I can know the day and hour and avoid suffering loss.

I have no problem if someone has alternative interpretations, but I do have a problem if you ignore these various problematic verses. If your interpretation doesn't include these verses it is like the guy who rebuilt the motor and has few spare parts left over.

So then there is something quite beautiful about this interpretation. In Ephesians it says that Jesus tore down the middle wall of partition and made of two one. The church is composed of both Jews and Gentiles. The calendar of Enoch is supposed to be the calendar from the time of Adam, it is the calendar of the world. Festival of Trumpets is supposed to be the day the world was created. Now the rapture is the wedding and coronation of Jesus for the Gentiles every bit as much as it is for the Jews, it is also a Bema judgement for all as well. So, since this is a jubilee year we are not celebrating this birthday on the first but on the tenth of this month.

However, for the Jews their calendar begins when they left Egypt, left slavery, and tabernacles is reminding them that they have their eyes and heart set on a better kingdom. The rapture takes us to a temporary dwelling during the tribulation. How beautiful is it to join these two into one.

Sorry didn't understand any of it. I am not going to follow the Jewish Calendar to figure out the day of the rapture. So what is the point.

The pseudynomenous writings under the name of Enoch were not written by Enoch. They were never accepted as authentic by the Jewish scribes even though they were passed around for their apocalyptic literature artistic value. They were used to declare a message about why the Jews were still suffering even though they had sworn off idols after the Babylonian exile and were carefully following the Law. They expected to be blessed but were under foreign rulers. These are the ideas of a cult sect of religious Jews not the mainstream.

The prophesy mentioned in Jude could be a quote from the book of Enoch or it could be the only part that is authentic passed down and the writers of the book of Enoch built around it. I think the most common opinion today is that Jude is simply quoting from a non canonical source to make a point to his audience about the universal belief that God is going to judge in the end. Paul quoted from some pagan poets and no one interpreted that as Paul saying that the pagan poet was inspired. Therefore it is not true that a quote from the pseudonymous book of Enoch would authenticate it as inspired.

Again there is also an opinion that the Enoch quote was a real prophecy from Enoch passed down and the writers (probably a sect similar to the Essenes) used it as well as the only other scant details we have about Enoch and made up their fantasy apocalyptic tale in an entertaining attempt to "fill in details' that the bible does not give and probably never expected anyone to take it serious but were using it as a tool to distribute their message. It was written between 200 and 100 BC. At that time if one were to claim to be a prophet in Israel and write a book they would have been stoned. To get around this ban they wrote it under a name of a prophet from the time before the ban on prophets. They were not the only ones. There were other writings such as the Assumption of Moses, another attempt to invent details about Moses body being buried by God. These writings were never accepted as authentic by the Sanhedrin or the Pharisees, and at the time of Christ and the apostles they were considered fakes.

Don't be deceived by people 2000 years later who think that their antiquity grants them automatic authenticity. It does not.

As far as all the feasts days go I see the typology but I see it as a much broader theological concept. For example the sealed scroll in Revelation being symbolic of the title deed of planet earth, and the redemption of the near kinsman redeemer when Jesus is the only one found worthy and the loosing of the seals are the judgments that are poured out and end with the earth disposessed of its unlawful inhabitants, and then the 1000 year reign, the new heavens and earth all part of the fulfillment of the prophesies in the types and shadows.

The verse that first caused me to hit my knees and pray was the one about the Lord coming in the clouds. This was about 50 years ago, I was just a teenager, but I prayed "Lord, I want to see you when you come down in those clouds".

But as I considered this it hit me that He would be returning as a conquering king and there should be a great multitude standing and cheering as He returns. That is one possibility and no doubt there are those who are watching, waiting and will be there cheering as He comes.

But the other side is that many will not be paying attention, caught up in so many other things. He said that when He comes there will be foolish virgins who were not prepared, their lamps are not burning bright, and their vessels are not filled with oil.

One thing I find very interesting with the typology is that they have two witnesses that must watch for the new moon during the festival of trumpets and then announce to the Sanhedrin the evidence that they have seen at which point they blow the trumpet. In similar way there have been many people on the internet trumpeting one point after another. I enjoy each one of these. I realize these days are really awesome days and I don't want to miss anything just as if I was there when the Israelites were leaving Egypt.

The verse in Sardis that if you don't watch you won't know the hour has given me faith that if we do watch we will know the hour. Also the typology of the two witnesses who watch for the New moon and then announce the Festival of Trumpets is another encouragement to me that if we watch we can know the day and hour.

Another very cool thing is that today is a half moon, just like 5 of the virgins were wise with their lamps lit and 5 were foolish with the lamps going out.

Luke 21:25 “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. Yesterday two suns were seen in the sky in China. It is quite clear that signs in the sun (solar eclipse as well as these two suns), moon -- lunar eclipse and blood moons, and the stars (the great sign in September 2017) are all fulfillments of this prophecy by the Lord.

Why would God do this? He is letting everyone know that something big is coming.

I suspect many of us have been meditating on the "day of the rapture" and one of the issues I have seen is it is easy to count one day for one location on earth. For any city a day is a 24 hour period. But that is not true for the Earth itself. We all see this on New Year's as Australia and then Hong Kong will celebrate New Year long before us in the US, hour by hour you see one city after the next celebrate New Year and by the time you have circled the globe as the last people are ready to celebrate New Year those who were first are ready to start the next day. So, everyday for the earth is a "concealed day" or a "long day" just like the Festival of Trumpets.

So then I thought well you could start the day with Jerusalem, and it is certainly true that the witnesses are basing their observations from Jerusalem, but on the other hand it is rarely if ever starting exactly at sundown but rather at the time they observe the new moon.

Anyway I thought it was fascinating that if you were to consider the "day of the rapture" and what day that is from the Earth's perspective it would have to be "a long day" or a "concealed day" just like the Festival of Trumpets is referred to.

Contrast between the rapture and the Druid festival of Halloween.

Halloween is a focus on death, rather than life. The idea is that the boundary between the spirit world is very thin on this day so that the spirits of the dead can roam free on the Earth and that people in this world could pass over into that world. It is a pagan holiday. In the Jewish festival of Trumpets the door to heaven is opened at this time and is closed on the day of Atonement. However, on a Jubilee year you would celebrate both the opening and closing of the door on the same day. This is interesting because when the saints are raptured up to heaven and in through this gate, Satan and his angels are kicked out. The raptured saints enter in, He exits out, and the door is closed.

There is also a sense of judgement on Halloween. It is the end of the harvest, so whatever food you have is all the food you will have for the winter. You will be judged by your fruits. Halloween refers to the transition from the light (summer) to the dark (winter). Interesting that Biden recently referred to the coming "dark winter". Twilight as the sun sets is a magical time for the Celts. The belief is that during the night of Halloween the dead could walk the earth, whereas the rapture says that the dead in Christ will be raised on the rapture, in a “twinkling of an eye” which is an idiom for sunset. Also, the Bible says that there is that which restrains the evil, but when it steps aside then the mystery of lawlessness will be revealed. We understand this to refer to the Holy Spirit stepping aside, but remember, at the rapture the wise virgins had filled their vessels with oil (representing the Holy Spirit) and their lamps were burning bright (they were the light set on the hill). When they are removed the Holy Spirit and the shining light which was restraining the evil is also removed. So then if you were a druid and the rapture takes place during twilight of Halloween you would have an alternate explanation that does not cause you to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ. It is difficult to understand how Satan could convince anyone not to repent and accept Jesus after seeing the rapture.

So the Halloween festival is all about placating evil spirits, not about standing against them. The idea was to coax the dead away from the town with sweets, a practice that became “trick or treating”. A religion based on deceit. Not only so but they are afraid of the dead, its almost as though they fear the dead know their sins. You can imagine a serial killer would be very concerned about the dead roaming the earth.

They also taught that this night was the best night for predicting the future, saying who will live and who will die, the “telling ghost stories”. These ghost stories began as divination stories around fires, what we would refer to as various forms of witchcraft utterly condemned by the Bible. The idea that we have done away with Pagan religions is absurd, Halloween is an expression of this pagan religion where they believe on this night they stand at the gateway to the other world.

The Romans had a similar festival for Nov 1, and just as the Roman and Celtic pagan worship travelled around the world at the same time Christianity sprang up diametrically opposed to pagan worship.

So Pope Gregory and the Catholic church told people that the pagan worship was now “consecrated to Christ” and you could keep worshipping as you have. In this way they filled the church with the evil demonic worship. This was not an effective practice, so a few hundred years later they proclaim Nov 1 as “All Saints Day”. This is known as “All Hallow’s day” and the evening before this is known as “All Hallow’s evening” or Halloween.

Following this about a hundred years later they declared Nov 2 as “All Soul’s day” a direct reference to the pagan festival, celebrating all those who had died in the last year.

What is common to all pagan religions worldwide is a focus on the dead, a fear of the dead, and appeasing the dead. Festival begins at sundown on October 31st and continues till sunrise of Nov 1. The original Irish name meant “summer’s end” and the name was equivalent to their name for the month of November.

Ultimately they created a “all hallow’s tide” referring to this three day period. One medieval practice was based on the teaching that ruler and slave were equal in death. So they dressed up in costumes and danced at night, along with the teaching that on this night the dead would rise and dance this dance.

As children went around collecting “soul cakes” an offering to help relatives get out of purgatory in exchange the children were to pray for them. These kids would carry lanterns made out of turnips. So whereas the rapture are for those whose lamps are filled with oil and burning bright, these soul cakes were for those who carried the precursor of a jack o lantern. After the protestant reformation many disputes arose. Guy foxes day, Nov 5, burning effigies of failed revolutionaries on bonfires was the key practice.

In short Halloween appears to be the last deceit of a master liar knowing that he has to come up with an alternate explanation for the rapture. It is an attempt, if by any means he could deceive the elect who remain on the earth.

So then, consider how precise this is. October 31st which according to Enoch's calendar, the calendar that comes from the God of creation, is the tenth day of the 7th month this year, and since this is a Jubilee year you would celebrate the wedding of the king, coronation of the king, and judgement day all at the same time. It is also the Festival of Tabernacles for the Jews if October 16/17 was truly the Festival of Trumpets (I have shared previously the 3 basic rules concerning this and why 2 of those rules would be redundant and false if you could say the first day of the year was the day after the Spring equinox which is what those who say Festival of Trumpets was September 18th are doing). So this would all end at sunset on October 31st, that is the end of that day based on both the Jewish calendar and the order established by God when He created the heavens and the earth. However, this is when "Halloween" begins, a deceit. This is another example of why the days were corrupted causing the day to end at midnight. When our day ends, their day begins. When the sky is red at night you say the next day (the millennial kingdom) will be fair weather, when the sky is red in the morning you say you will have bad weather (the tribulation). Sunset will be the end of the day for those who are of the light and it will be the beginning of the day for those who are of the night.

1Corinthians 11:23 -- 34 Do this in remembrance of Me.


1Corinthians 11:23 For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread,24 and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.”25 In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26 For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.

Keeping the Lord’s table is how we remember the Lord, it is how we proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes. Many have talked about the Old Covenant festival of trumpets being a holy convocation for the Messiah’s wedding. But in the New Covenant our holy convocation of the wedding is the Lord’s table. We have also talked about how the festival of Trumpets was proclaiming the coronation of the king, but when we proclaim the Lord’s death we are sounding the trumpet of the Lord’s victory over death, that He is the conquering king who ascended to the throne.

27 So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup. 29 For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves.30 That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep. 31 But if we were more discerning with regard to ourselves, we would not come under such judgment. 32 Nevertheless, when we are judged in this way by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be finally condemned with the world.

Again, many of us have been talking about the Old Covenant’s day of Atonement which is a day of judgement. From the Festival of Trumpets you have ten days of awe to examine yourself. But the fulfillment of this in the New Testament is the Lord’s table. The Lord says that when He comes if He finds you feeding the children of God then He will say well done, but if you are out drinking with the world He will make your portion with the hypocrites. Now there are times when it is very difficult to discern, for example, what if your office has a gathering at a restaurant that serves alcohol. Just because you go doesn’t really make any distinction, we are required to serve our employer as unto the Lord. But, suppose it were the Lord’s table meeting when the Lord returns? Wouldn’t you want to be in the Lord’s table and not in some party of the world?

33 So then, my brothers and sisters, when you gather to eat, you should all eat together. 34 Anyone who is hungry should eat something at home, so that when you meet together it may not result in judgment.

Gathering together to eat is what happens on the feast of tabernacles. Once again we see the fulfillment of these three Old Testament festivals combined in the Lord’s Table meeting. And when I come I will give further directions. Wouldn’t it be awesome if the Lord were to return during the Lord’s table meeting? What a testimony! Especially if these meetings are online.