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lenna

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continuing to push biden out there at this point is borderline elder abuse, he is clearly very tired, and gaffes multiple times per day now...
I find his wife more culpable than anyone else

if anyone knows how bad off he is, she does

as I have said, Biden is the vehicle. he is not even in the driver's seat
 

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I find his wife more culpable than anyone else

if anyone knows how bad off he is, she does

as I have said, Biden is the vehicle. he is not even in the driver's seat
should biden get in eventually, he will only be there a few months, then he will step aside for harris....
 
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should biden get in eventually, he will only be there a few months, then he will step aside for harris....
Biden will not run again. he will be physically unable to do so

still, not sure why you state this as my post was concerning the abuse of Biden's wife. she knows if anyone knows

Harris was not Biden's pick. remember she dropped out of the race early on. she is a doorway
 
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as you seem determined to put ashes on your head and sit at the gates, I won't give a big explanation...although one can certainly be found in scritpure

so the short answer is NO HE HAS NOT TAKEN HIS HAND OFF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, but this country is not the center of the universe that some people seem to think it is
not hope in God? :cautious:

you were expecting something you did not get. funny. I got exactly what I saw was coming.

Really? You think the US is just another country. So who will take her place on the world stage once she has fallen communism? I'll tell you what I was expecting, I was expecting Christians in this country would stand for life, liberty and justice. I was expecting we would stand against abortion, for religious freedom, for Israel, against communism and for the nuclear family, just to name a few. I thought they would stand for police and the rule of law. I thought they could see the fake radical left for what it was, that they would stand against Marxists burning down the country, beating and murdering citizens in the street. Forgive me for my optimism. And yet you saw all this coming.I find that very hard to believe.
 

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It seems the fabled Commie witch-hunters didn't hunt long enough.
 

Smoke

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I dare not say what is truly in my heart and mind right now. America has been handed over to communists. There will be no reckoning. They have brought America to it's knees, this election was her last dying breath, reaching out in hope. And we sat back and watched her die, in the gutter, like a dog. America is gone. How long before people wake up and see it, I do not know. The city on a hill has gone dark, her light shines no more. And we sat on our hands and let it happen. Prepare the coffin, say a funeral dirge, she is gone.
Well this is a gloomy post, yikes! lol

Even if Biden wins the presidency, the Senate will be held by the Republicans. Communism isn't coming if/when the Republicans hold the Senate. The Democrats can't pack the Supreme Court (the Senate confirms the nominees). It isn't the end of the world.

I also don't think the US was ever a beacon of light on a hill or that God favored us more than other nations. For too long we have tried to be the world police and Republicans have used the "we are a beacon of light" rhetoric to garner support for taking out dictators and invading other countries. We have our problems just as other countries have theirs, we just happen to be incredibly wealthy and powerful... that isn't synonymous with being God's divine country. We have had corrupt politicians running this country for ages... Biden winning office isn't the straw that breaks the camel's back. Maybe the US really does fall to her knees one day, but that day isn't today or tomorrow.

I can understand how everything is so gloomy, but I remember Republicans saying the same thing when Obama won in 2008 and 2012. And this too shall pass, sister.
 

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the fact that one wicked, worldly gang is more brazenly evil than the other evil, wicked, worldly gang doesn't make it rational to choose or much less to willingly advertise for the less overtly wicked, evil, worldly gang.

the pharisees appeared more superficially holy than the sadducees.
is that convincing rationale to be a pharisee?
So I take it you didn’t vote at all then?
 

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2Ch 7:14 if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.
Rom 1:19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.
Rom 1:20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
Rom 1:21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Rom 1:22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
Rom 1:24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves,
Rom 1:25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

Unless we as Christians turn back to God, and away from the world's ways, we will see little change in our nation.

When all is said and done, and the election is over, regardless of who wins, are we willing to turn back to God? I hope so.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Well this is a gloomy post, yikes! lol

Even if Biden wins the presidency, the Senate will be held by the Republicans. Communism isn't coming if/when the Republicans hold the Senate. The Democrats can't pack the Supreme Court (the Senate confirms the nominees). It isn't the end of the world.

I also don't think the US was ever a beacon of light on a hill or that God favored us more than other nations. For too long we have tried to be the world police and Republicans have used the "we are a beacon of light" rhetoric to garner support for taking out dictators and invading other countries. We have our problems just as other countries have theirs, we just happen to be incredibly wealthy and powerful... that isn't synonymous with being God's divine country. We have had corrupt politicians running this country for ages... Biden winning office isn't the straw that breaks the camel's back. Maybe the US really does fall to her knees one day, but that day isn't today or tomorrow.

I can understand how everything is so gloomy, but I remember Republicans saying the same thing when Obama won in 2008 and 2012. And this too shall pass, sister.
Smoke, what can you say the Republicans have done over the last 12 years to hold back creeping Communism?
Genuine question, I'm not trying to be facetious or argumentative.

Obama did some real long-term damage to the world. We are still paying the price for that Presidency outside the US.
 
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Really? You think the US is just another country. So who will take her place on the world stage once she has fallen communism? I'll tell you what I was expecting, I was expecting Christians in this country would stand for life, liberty and justice. I was expecting we would stand against abortion, for religious freedom, for Israel, against communism and for the nuclear family, just to name a few. I thought they would stand for police and the rule of law. I thought they could see the fake radical left for what it was, that they would stand against Marxists burning down the country, beating and murdering citizens in the street. Forgive me for my optimism. And yet you saw all this coming.I find that very hard to believe.
well it seems you think your personal thoughts were somehow better or more accurate than everything that can be seen around you

you are disappointed. again, I did see the voting not going to be the so called landslide some expected.

people who know me, would not be surprised I saw it coming. I apply logic, visible evidence, the fact the left lies constantly and basically bragged about cheating, the vitriol of the media, the censoring by social media and the hatred of all things Trump by those who cannot manipulate him and stated...out loud to those not in hyper space here...it was not going to be how they thought it would go

your disbelief does not bother me one bit. obviously you were not paying attention and I was

my own husband was talking landslide victory and I said 'not going to happen' and explained why. He simply said 'we'll see'
well we have seen. I am pretty good analysis, having been trained in it, and I am not a slouch at discernment either. discernment is both learned and in some cases a God given gift. and sometimes a combination...does not bother me one bit about what people think about that either

who do you think is the prince of the power of the air? I'll remind you. the devil. I have thought that also means the actual AIRWAVES...the cloud for instance. the world systems, inspired by the devil, are in play

and as for me saying the US is just another country. your disappointment has blinded you to what I actually said

I actually said the following:

NO HE HAS NOT TAKEN HIS HAND OFF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, but this country is not the center of the universe that some people seem to think it is

YOU are the one who said God had taken His hand off this country. take it up with God if you think that. I said the opposite, so maybe calm down and comprehend what I said

this country is not the center of the universe and not the apple of God's eye, but He knows those who are His in this country and still hears prayer and flailing around and throwing blame in your disappointment is a waste of energy
 
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Smoke, what can you say the Republicans have done over the last 12 years to hold back creeping Communism?
Genuine question, I'm not trying to be facetious or argumentative.

Obama did some real long-term damage to the world. We are still paying the price for that Presidency outside the US.
I'm not smoke, but...

you would have to fire over half the professors in universities for a start and re-educate teachers in the elementary schools as well

the right shirked their responsibility and I am not one iota impressed by the Republicans. they had the house for the first 2 years and frittered away that advantage. (of course the speaker at that time was as useless as a rock, mind you, a rock can be thrown :unsure:)

in fact, I don't think I would vote for them. probably would be a Libertarian although in a Presidential election I would not waste a vote

Obama basically reignited the racial divide in this country with the help of his consistently negative wife and pretend preachers in so called churches that are nothing more than cells for subversist activities. Obama the city planner, took his talents to the one worlders and they all planned, are still planning and will continue to plan, for the world, with the rest of us as their little 'workers'
 

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Smoke, what can you say the Republicans have done over the last 12 years to hold back creeping Communism?
Genuine question, I'm not trying to be facetious or argumentative.

Obama did some real long-term damage to the world. We are still paying the price for that Presidency outside the US.
I think the US is pretty moderate. The media will have you think we are a progressive nation but congress seems to be split more often than not. Republicans controlling one part of congress is crucial to preventing progressive (or communist as you call it) agenda.

I'm curious which "communist" policy you're worried the left will pass with a split congress and Biden as president. I don't see universal health care being passed for two reasons: 1.) Biden didn't run on universal health care, he spoke against it and 2.) the Republicans in the Senate would never pass anything the House sends to them in favor of universal health care. What I envision is Biden being forced to do some of what Trump was/is doing to cut cost on health care (hopefully attacking big pharma).

I think the country being split prevents radical and sudden changes. We do better when there is a slower transition of one way of life to another way of life.

What communist policy do you fear under a Biden administration?
 

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I also don't see guns being taken away with a Republican Senate. I think many of you are a bit sad and gloomy (understandably so) with where the presidency is looking that you aren't grateful for Republicans winning the Senate. The Republicans winning the Senate is arguably more important than the presidency itself, at least equally important. The Republican Senate stops the biggest fears of a Biden administration.

If the Democrats won the majority in the Senate and maintains the House, THEN I would absolutely understand the sky is falling mentality a little bit better. As it stands now, the Republicans keep the Senate and Trump may very well STILL have a path to 270 electoral votes.

Summarizing my rant: It's way too early to panic and give in to our biggest and deepest fears.
 
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kaylagrl

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well it seems you think your personal thoughts were somehow better or more accurate than everything that can be seen around you
Wow! What an arrogant and ignorant thing to say to someone you don't know personally. And judgemental besides.


you are disappointed.
Im more than disappointed, I'm stunned that Christians in this country did not stand up for life, against communism and for religious freedom. The apathy stuns me.



again, I did see the voting not going to be the so called landslide some expected.
Really, 30 thousand people every time he had a rally? People having car rallies all over the country. Joe Biden can't string a sentence together, his VP couldn't get 2% of the vote when she was running and yet they somehow pull it off? And it's legit? I didn't expect a landslide either. But I know this for certain, they didn't do this legally.




people who know me, would not be surprised I saw it coming. I apply logic, visible evidence, the fact the left lies constantly and basically bragged about cheating, the vitriol of the media, the censoring by social media and the hatred of all things Trump by those who cannot manipulate him and stated...out loud to those not in hyper space here...it was not going to be how they thought it would go

your disbelief does not bother me one bit. obviously you were not paying attention and I was
I wasn't paying attention? Well then I'll tell you how I thought they were going to win, I thought they were going to kill him. That's how badly I felt these people wanted power again. And I wasn't the only one who thought so. They weren't boarding up businesses because they thought Biden would win.



my own husband was talking landslide victory and I said 'not going to happen' and explained why. He simply said 'we'll see'
well we have seen. I am pretty good analysis, having been trained in it, and I am not a slouch at discernment either. discernment is both learned and in some cases a God given gift. and sometimes a combination...does not bother me one bit about what people think about that either
Why would anyone care whether you have discernment? Anyone who didn't think the radicals were going to pull every single trick in the book was blind and stupid. Or course they cheated their way there. But I did have faith in America, and that we wouldn't let them get away with it.



I actually said the following:

this country is not the center of the universe and not the apple of God's eye, but He knows those who are His in this country and still hears prayer and flailing around and throwing blame in your disappointment is a waste of energy
America is the worlds superpower, if she loses her place who fills it? Christians are apathetic,they have blinders on. We were given a torch and we let down. We are no longer a city on a hill. You want to talk blame, disappointment? The first people to scream about their religious freedoms will be the ones who either didn't vote or voted the radicals in. We had a born again Gov. in my state. They voted him out and put a Dem in. He locked down the churches before restaurants/ bars and has constantly tried to limit people going to church. So much so that he had some congrgants arrested from one church. And everyone is screaming and saying they shouldn't have voted for him. Blame?! No, sick of the apathy and carelessness people treat the elections with.
 

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As of a few minutes ago the AP is showing Biden with 248 delegates and him leading in 2 states with 22 delegates. It is apparent that his path to victory is almost certain. It appears that a lot of law suits are now underway.
 
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Wow! What an arrogant and ignorant thing to say to someone you don't know personally. And judgemental besides.




Im more than disappointed, I'm stunned that Christians in this country did not stand up for life, against communism and for religious freedom. The apathy stuns me.





Really, 30 thousand people every time he had a rally? People having car rallies all over the country. Joe Biden can't string a sentence together, his VP couldn't get 2% of the vote when she was running and yet they somehow pull it off? And it's legit? I didn't expect a landslide either. But I know this for certain, they didn't do this legally.






I wasn't paying attention? Well then I'll tell you how I thought they were going to win, I thought they were going to kill him. That's how badly I felt these people wanted power again. And I wasn't the only one who thought so. They weren't boarding up businesses because they thought Biden would win.





Why would anyone care whether you have discernment? Anyone who didn't think the radicals were going to pull every single trick in the book was blind and stupid. Or course they cheated their way there. But I did have faith in America, and that we wouldn't let them get away with it.





America is the worlds superpower, if she loses her place who fills it? Christians are apathetic,they have blinders on. We were given a torch and we let down. We are no longer a city on a hill. You want to talk blame, disappointment? The first people to scream about their religious freedoms will be the ones who either didn't vote or voted the radicals in. We had a born again Gov. in my state. They voted him out and put a Dem in. He locked down the churches before restaurants/ bars and has constantly tried to limit people going to church. So much so that he had some congrgants arrested from one church. And everyone is screaming and saying they shouldn't have voted for him. Blame?! No, sick of the apathy and carelessness people treat the elections with.

feel better?

apparently you either do not know the current state of 'Christians' here and/or you do not understand how far from God this country has moved

I can only shake my head at the way you responded. your anger duly noted
 
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lenna

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I do not believe Trump will loose. but it certainly will not be a landslide as some predicted

then again, it is quite possible he will loose

as we currently see.


As of a few minutes ago the AP is showing Biden with 248 delegates and him leading in 2 states with 22 delegates. It is apparent that his path to victory is almost certain. It appears that a lot of law suits are now underway.

yup. plenty of lawsuits
 
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feel better?

apparently you either do not know the current state of 'Christians' here and/or you do not understand how far from God this country has moved

I can only shake my head at the way you responded. your anger duly noted

And I shake my head at what a truly judgemental person you appear to be. And a know it all. We're done.
 
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lenna

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And I shake my head at what a truly judgemental person you appear to be. And a know it all. We're done.
uh huh

I do judge some things but I try to do it 'rightly'

you are just an angry person looking for a target and now you have resorted to one line shots

you know, I thought we might have a bit of a reasonable exchange, but you are not being reasonable today

you decided things should go a certain way and you are angry that other people did not meet your expectations

I am disengaging from you which I am sure you will count as a 'victory'. it isn't
 
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