Replacement theology.

Since you insist on being asinine, I see no reason to interact with you any further.

I figured you would go away when your confronted with irrefutable truth.

To clarify, is this your basic argument?

God always meant Israel to be those who believed in the gospel.

So the church has not replaced Israel, instead the church was always Israel from the beginning.

My argument is that Gods chosen people has always been those that are in Christ whether they are Jews or Gentiles, whether they were in Old Testament times or New Testament times.

Yep, so if we define the following equivalent terms

"Israel" as equivalent to "God's chosen people", and
"those that are in Christ" as "those who believed in the gospel"

Then you are saying that Israel is always those who believed in the gospel right?

Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:

IF, IF, IF ye obey my voice THEN,THEN, THEN, ye shall be a peculiar treasure.

What part of this IF THEN statement do you not understand?

Why would I say anything about Gentile's who hate God, you guys aren't trying to replace God's chosen people with Gentiles who hate God, your trying to replace God's chosen people with Jews that hate God.

As EG posted long ago in this thread God bound himself to this promise, He will NOT break it, it is everlasting. You are dead wrong.

As EG posted long ago in this thread God bound himself to this promise, He will NOT break it, it is everlasting. You are dead wrong.

And round the circle we go again. Are you being obtuse or you really don't understand what we are saying here?

As EG posted long ago in this thread God bound himself to this promise, He will NOT break it, it is everlasting. You are dead wrong.

Since he defined Israel as those who believed in the gospel, his argument is true by definition.

So he cannot be dead wrong.

No replacement, only continuation. One people of the Most High. One covenant in Christ.

He loves to post verses that seem one sided, it forgets the verses that would show otherwise.

Lev 26, a passages I have mentioned multiple times

But if they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their fathers, with their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, and that they also have walked contrary to Me,

41 and that I also have walked contrary to them and have brought them into the land of their enemies;
if their uncircumcised hearts are humbled, and they accept their guilt—

42 then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember;
I will remember the land.

43 The land also shall be left empty by them, and will enjoy its sabbaths while it lies desolate without them;
they will accept their guilt, because they despised My judgments and because their soul abhorred My statutes.

44 Yet for all that, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, nor shall I abhor them, to utterly destroy them and break My covenant with them;
for I am the Lord their God.

45 But for their sake I will remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the nations, that I might be their God:

the fact is his argument is with scripture not us!. That covenant he made with THEM is binding today, it’s his promise it’s on him to keep it

Nice to "see" you again tribesman.

Its been a LONG time...

See here is kjv’s problem

he admits that the punishment Isreal would recieve is a literal punishment, he admits that they deserve what they god.

but can he be honest.

this is what God told moses to write

And after all this, if you do not obey Me, but walk contrary to Me,
28 then I also will walk contrary to you in fury;
and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
29 You[g] shall eat the flesh of your sons, and you shall eat the flesh of your daughters.
30 I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars, and cast your carcasses on the lifeless forms of your idols;
and My soul shall abhor you.
31 I will lay your cities waste and bring your sanctuaries to desolation, and I will not smell the fragrance of your [h]sweet aromas.
32 I will bring the land to desolation, and your enemies who dwell in it shall be astonished at it.
33 I will scatter you among the nations and draw out a sword after you;
your land shall be desolate and your cities waste.


this happened totally in 70 Ad, and is continually ongoing as we speak


34 Then the land shall enjoy its sabbaths as long as it lies desolate and you are in your enemies’ land;
then the land shall rest and enjoy its sabbaths.
35 As long as it lies desolate it shall rest—
for the time it did not rest on your sabbaths when you dwelt in it.
36 ‘And as for those of you who are left, I will send faintness[i] into their hearts in the lands of their enemies;
the sound of a shaken leaf shall cause them to flee;
they shall flee as though fleeing from a sword, and they shall fall when no one pursues.
37 They shall stumble over one another, as it were before a sword, when no one pursues;
and you shall have no power to stand before your enemies.

can he humble himself enoug to admit this has literally taken place? Can he admit that God kept his promise and did what he said he would do?

will he admit that it God kept this promise concerning his covenant with Isreal that it goes to reason that God will keep all his promises, and that immediately after Gods warning, he also made this promise?

But if they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their fathers, with their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, and that they also have walked contrary to Me,
41 and that I also have walked contrary to them and have brought them into the land of their enemies;
if their uncircumcised hearts are humbled, and they accept their guilt—
42 then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember;
I will remember the land.

will he humbly admit that if Israel repents, God will keep this promise also? Or will he continue in pride, contrary to what the word says in many places, and declair god is done with them no matter what? That they have no hope and God is not obligated to keep that promise, although God on his word said he will (and prophecy also shows that Israel WILL repent, amd that God will keep his promise?

again, his argument is with the word not us.

he posts the verse where god says if they obey he will honor them as his people and bless them and protect them, well this is true,

they are not in obedience, are they blessed and protected? No, they are receiving what God promised they would receive, they are being punished, and will continue to be punished as long as they remain in disobedience,

I humbly admit that if any God hating, enemy of the gospel Jew will repent and come to the Lord in faith, then God will forgive him and he can become one of God's chosen people. I have never said otherwise.