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laymen

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Wise man once's said: "No one is going to heaven that did not want to be there!"

Jesus is coming soon! Nothing in the world is worth missing out on Heaven. Examine yourselves whether you are in the faith !
1 cor 13:5
Mar 8:36

The book of James tells us not to be doubled minded. James 1:8

singleness of purpose, What was Paul's? How did he test his faith? (Show from the bible)
  1. 1 Corinthians 2:2
For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

The Holy Bible: King James Version. (2009). (Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version., 1 Co 2:2). Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.

The Test:2 Corinthians 12:12
Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds.

The Holy Bible: King James Version. (2009). (Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version., 2 Co 12:12). Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.
 

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Wise man once's said: "No one is going to heaven that did not want to be there!"
No sinner want to go to heaven unless God worketh in them both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

Phil.2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
 

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No sinner want to go to heaven unless God worketh in them both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Right, so the only people that are going to be there are the ones that want to be. For one to "want" to be he "Must be born again"! right.

God is great! He gives to us a new heart. Its a heart that longs to be with Him "Thy kingdom come Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven". His pleasure become our pleasure.



For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

The Holy Bible: King James Version. (2009). (Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version., Php 2:13). Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.
 

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Right, so the only people that are going to be there are the ones that want to be. For one to "want" to be he "Must be born again"! right.
For one to want to be one, it will be God who is giving that will. And for one to become born again it will also have to be God alone who make that happen. To God ALONE be the glory. Amen.

Rom.9

[14] What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
[15] For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
[16] So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
[17] For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
[18] Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
[19] Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

John.1

[13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
 

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For one to want to be one, it will be God who is giving that will. And for one to become born again it
will also have to be God alone who make that happen. To God ALONE be the glory. Amen.
When we get a NEW Heart we therefore want to do Gods will. We are colaborers with Christ 1cor 3:9. You make it sound like you have no real choice towards God. I can’t help but stand at ahh of God and His Wonders works and want to be a part of that. Such peace knowing he is in me. I don’t think we are called to be dry Christian, that has no feeling. His Sprit gives this will by his word. This does not diminish God, the fact that we actually want to follow after receiving a new heart. It up lefts him praise the Lord!
 

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When we get a NEW Heart we therefore want to do Gods will. We are colaborers with Christ 1cor 3:9. You make it sound like you have no real choice towards God. I can’t help but stand at ahh of God and His Wonders works and want to be a part of that. Such peace knowing he is in me. I don’t think we are called to be dry Christian, that has no feeling. His Sprit gives this will by his word. This does not diminish God, the fact that we actually want to follow after receiving a new heart. It up lefts him praise the Lord!
The old man has no choice, let alone any will of getting right with God. It is indeed impossible for him to possess any of these qualities. I believe it is only the new man who can positively respond to God's calling. The entire initiative for walking with God comes from God alone, not the old man, the sinner, which is dead in sins and trespasses and at enmity with God. Regeneration preceeds faith.
 

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The old man has no choice, let alone any will of getting right with God. It is indeed impossible for him to possess any of these qualities. I believe it is only the new man who can positively respond to God's calling. The entire initiative for walking with God comes from God alone, not the old man, the sinner, which is dead in sins and trespasses and at enmity with God. Regeneration preceeds faith.
1 Peter 1:20 (AV): Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,


Sin has been around much longer than that of Adam and Eve. It was a choice for them. It is the same today. Being bent Towards sin is not a choice (I give you that) because we are born in to it. But we have a choice to be habitual choosers to it. For all mankind has a way out. A choice.
1cor 10:13.
Even those who have not the law do what is in the law Rom 2:14 meaning we make choices everyday good and bad ,before we know wrong from right. That’s why we need Jesus we are to shortsighted and make bad choice but it still a choice.
 

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1 Peter 1:20 (AV): Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Sin has been around much longer than that of Adam and Eve. It was a choice for them. It is the same today.
For them, yes. But NOT for their offspring. Not the same today. Try read Romans 5:12-14.

Being bent Towards sin is not a choice (I give you that) because we are born in to it. But we have a choice to be habitual choosers to it. For all mankind has a way out. A choice.
No, not as for the old man. Like I already showed you it's not a choice matter on our part initially. We are. as passive recipients of an undeserved pardon, just to be grateful to God that He intervened and atoned for our sin. We cannot share in His glory, thinking that we were just smarter than other people because we activated some ability in our old man to "choose " to respond to God's calling. However, the new man may respond to God's calling and lay aside sin. You see the difference here?

1cor 10:13. Even those who have not the law do what is in the law Rom 2:14
If your point is that non-believers can be justified by some kind of strange doing of the law, then that is not the context of the message in Romans 2.

meaning we make choices everyday good and bad ,before we know wrong from right. That’s why we need Jesus we are to shortsighted and make bad choice but it still a choice.
If you do not understand the biblical reality of total depravity you will confuse the characteristics of the new man with the old man. That's why such interpretation of the scriptures as you have presented do not harmonize.

You just can't have a dead man doing anything before he is quickened (Eph.2:1-5). I gave you scriptures that clearly prove free-willism as non-biblical. Yet you try to cook up something with other scriptures that just don't exist.

Seems like you do not differ between the old and new man at all. Are you a pelagian or an arminian?
 

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The more you repeat your error it does not make it right. I hope you are able to choose to be corrected by scripture. :)
All I want to know is is Jesus and him crucified? Which is the point of this thread to have a singleness a purpose and you have proven my point.
 

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Quoting a scripture when caught in error, old trick that never works. No one old natural man wants to know Jesus and Him crucified.

Hopefully you get a desire to know your free-will folly error and stand corrected of same.
 

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Quoting a scripture when caught in error, old trick that never works. No one old natural man wants to know Jesus and Him crucified.

Hopefully you get a desire to know your free-will folly error and stand corrected of same.
Again....
is Jesus crucified? That’s all I need to know?
 

tribesman

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Again....
is Jesus crucified? That’s all I need to know?
Not sure what you mean by "all I need to know". Maybe it would have made sense if you had only quoted 1Cor.2:2, but you also quoted man's so-called wisdom by saying:
Wise man once's said: "No one is going to heaven that did not want to be there!"
Notice that Paul when stated what he did in 1Cor.2:2, he was regenerate. Should ring a bell.
 

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Not sure what you mean by "all I need to know". Maybe it would have made sense if you had only quoted 1Cor.2:2, but you also quoted man's so-called wisdom by saying: Notice that Paul when stated what he did in 1Cor.2:2, he was regenerate. Should ring a bell.
I think you just have a problem with wanting to having the last word but this is my last communication with you on this topic, and all I need to know is Jesus and him crucified?
 

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I think you just have a problem with wanting to having the last word but this is my last communication with you on this topic, and all I need to know is Jesus and him crucified?
I have no problem with not having the last say. I have a problem with false teachings about the old man.