The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

John 3 says he died for the world that whoever’s believes will have eternal life

it dies not say he died for whoever he chose so they will have eternal life. You can not remove believe

he who does not believe is condemned already,

he who believes is not condemned

the only things that seperates the condemned from the non condemned is belief vs non belief

2: 13 is correct, if after I come to faith, my faith fails, he will still keep his promise.

we are talking about how one is saved and why and who has the possibility to be saved not what happens after

John 3 says he died for the world that whoever’s believes will have eternal life

it dies not say he died for whoever he chose so they will have eternal life. You can not remove believe

he who does not believe is condemned already,

he who believes is not condemned

the only things that seperates the condemned from the non condemned is belief vs non belief

2: 13 is correct, if after I come to faith, my faith fails, he will still keep his promise.

we are talking about how one is saved and why and who has the possibility to be saved not what happens after

The problem isn't that the religion of man doesn't understand eternal salvation it is the religion of man itself.
Faith in Christ is not religion because religion is merely a word used to describe a set beliefs and religious practice but the bond and relationship we have with him far exceeds a bitter word like that.

God is all knowing and knew what would happen before it even began so on one hand it makes sense why some believe in predestination or pre elction however we can cherry pick all the scriptures we want but without looking deeper we might as well not post scripture at all.
There is a certain pattern God has always had all throughout the bible, he always gives a chance of repentence he always warns what will happen if we don't he always tells us or warns us before he does anything but he knows what will happen before it does right? So why then does he give chances? Why does he warn why does he allow call for repentance?

This is pointless if only those who are his from before hand could be saved

And CHRIST died for the WHOLE world and since GOD made the world for man and men Are In the world then this would Include man,right? So then CHRIST died for all men so that Whosoever believes In him should not perish but have Everlasting life.

it did for those who believe

for those who are still in unbelief, they still have the ability to repent. Because his death offers life to them also,

we were in unbelief once,

you can’t glorify Christ based on a false precept. If anything, it takes away from christ

his death is glorified, in the fact that all who willingly believe, his goal, is saved,

him having to send people to hell does also not take away from him, because he offered them salvation, they rejected it.

either way, Christ is glorified

And?

those who do not believe are condemned

those who do are not condemned

what does that have to do with chastening?

you seem to be unsure of what we are discussing take a step back and take a breath

He quickened us while we were still in unbelief (spiritually dead in sins).

Only those that have had their hearts exchanged in the new birth will repent of breaking a spiritual law. The natural, unregenerate, man, who still has a heart of stone, will not repent of breaking a spiritual law that he cannot discern, and thinks it to be foolishness.

So, tell me what those that believe not are condemned to?

Correct, man's heart naturally is without repentance Rom 2:5

But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

I disagree, jesus fulfilled the law. As John said, behold the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world

Jesus made it clear

he said he who believes is not condemned

he who does not believe is condemned already

he did not say he who breaks the law is condemned already, we all have broken the law. So In effect we are all cursed,

jesus became that curse, so that whoever believes will not perish but has eternal life

That’s why God works to change ones heart

but man still has to decide

There is only one condemnation spoken of in scripture, Satan and his angels are doomed for the same condemnation

That’s why God works to change ones heart

but man still has to decide

It will and it does. It gets much easier once you accept the truth.

The Bible says that Jesus lost Judas. You are a very deceitful man.

John 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

So you think that all of the old testament saints, are never born again?

God allows mankind to make choices as to how mankind wants to live his life as he sojourns here on earth, but the choice of mankind's eternal inheritance is only made by God's sovereign grace, without mankind's deciding.

You are not justified through your faith, but through the faith "of" Jesus, not "in" Jesus, Gal 2:16.

Christ died for the Whole world of the Saved. His Sheep. His death effected their Salvation.