China, Russia, Iran Spin Capitol Insurrection

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EleventhHour

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Hong Kong riots vs the Capitol riot. They ask why did we promote the Hong Kong riot? The people of Hong Kong were facing a threat to their life, liberty, and property. Finding their friends and family being shipped off to work camps or prisons where they torture or harvest their organs.

This is why I supported the HK riots.

Our country has yet to face this kind of threat but what happened at the Capitol was the fear of Communist persecution in the near future.

Heck, we already seeing google suspend parlor, Facebook and Twitter block the president and remove conservatives. We have seen religious persecution. Attacks on the Second Amendment. Indoctrination of our children. The tearing down of history. And in the next two years, we can only imagine it will get worse.

So was the capitol riot justified? Under the just war theory, I could say it was too early to be justified. Whereas Hk had every right out of self-defense.

Give it a year or two and the self-defense of American Patriots may be justified. Unfortunately, timing matters.
Do you think war is a "civil" war or insurrection is justified when it is a minority seeking to impose itself on the rest of the country?
 

Magenta

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he is under the deception

"orange man bad, cnn will give me excellent info"

cnn,biden,obama,antifa = good

why? because we spin it into truth.

there is no other truth.
Cue robot voice...."trump bad, trump is insurrection, trump tried a coup, trump bad, trump bad, trump followers bad, antifa not at capitol, blah blah blah"
Heh, well then! Yes, it is perilous times. Best to focus on the victory we have in Christ :D



Philippians 4:4 :)
 
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EleventhHour

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From news site Defense One.

Leaders around the world reacted with shock and dismay to Wednesday’s Capitol Hill riot. But the governments of China and Russia were happy to use the events to attack the United States and democracy in general.

“We reiterate that the electoral system in the United States is archaic, it does not meet modern democratic standards, creating opportunities for multiple violations," said one Russian government spokesperson, Maria Zakharova, on Facebook. “American media has become a tool for political struggle. This was largely the cause of the division of society now observed in the United States.”




Hua Chunying, a spokesperson for China’s foreign ministry, argued that U.S. media were hypocritical in denouncing yesterday’s rioters after extolling pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong. It was time, Hua told the state-owned Global Times, for "people to reflect on why some people and media in U.S. gave different narrative on social turmoil in Hong Kong in 2019.” She continued, “What word did they use about #HK? What words are they using now? #US media condemn the incident in US, calling it 'violence,' 'thugs,' 'extremists,' and 'disgrace.' What words did they use to describe riots in #HK? 'Beautiful sight,' 'fighters for democracy.”

Iran’s President Hassan Rouhani said, “What we saw last night in America showed that Western democracy is weak...Look what a populist did to America. He tarnished his country's image and damaged America's ties with the whole world.”

Full news article:

https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2021/01/china-russia-iran-spin-capitol-insurrection/171267/

Trump certainly made the news around the world since NOV 6th

I followed QAnon drops for a year, the events that occurred at the Capitol building are not really a surprise.

With language like "We are the Storm" and the president often supporting Q with his hands and words, I do wonder how foreign powers would perceive that strange behavior of a leader of a world power.

I think it denotes weakness to the rest of the world and vulnerability that he relies so heavily for support from only one faction of society.
 

Oncefallen

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Do you think war is a "civil" war or insurrection is justified when it is a minority seeking to impose itself on the rest of the country?
Unfortunately, the minority (the extreme left) has been imposing it's will on the rest of the country for decades a little piece at a time.
 
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kaylagrl

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What story is told when a sitting president is telling people to get to Washington to make an uproar regarding the confirmation of the new president?

What kind of signals are we sending to the country and the world whenever a mob is looting the Capitol?

I’m so ashamed of these heinous crimes committed by the people who were guilty of this. I’m equally ashamed of the president allowing this to happen. It borders high treason.

Dear Lord in Heaven, please let Your will prevail, and make things calm down. We’ve had enough unrest and violence now.
 
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SophieT

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What story is told when a sitting president is telling people to get to Washington to make an uproar regarding the confirmation of the new president?

What kind of signals are we sending to the country and the world whenever a mob is looting the Capitol?

I’m so ashamed of these heinous crimes committed by the people who were guilty of this. I’m equally ashamed of the president allowing this to happen. It borders high treason.

Dear Lord in Heaven, please let Your will prevail, and make things calm down. We’ve had enough unrest and violence now.
Well, when the 'story' of the President is being told, it must be remembered it is a lie to state he told people to go and make an uproar. So yeah, that would be the story. The signals that were being sent are: People have had it up to here with two parties that seem to forget they are supposed to represent the people of this country. Antifa can do whatever it wants and get away with it as was witnessed this past summer. Certain groups no longer have any respect for the institutions of this country.

Why are you ashamed? Were you at least as equally ashamed when the past summer saw looting, burnings of private business, police cars and flags and other terrorist acts were committed in Democrat run cities...BY Democrats? HUH? Did your face get all red with embarrassment over those things as well?

As a nation, Americans are very thankful your definition of high treason is incorrect. Although it does seem to match Nancy's :unsure:

Do you think God agrees with the Democrat platform? For that matter, Do YOU even know what it is?

What a bunch of fluffy hyperbole and water carrying for the left.

and to help you understand:

 

soberxp

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I do wonder how foreign powers would perceive that strange behavior of a leader of a world power.
views from China,
most people here very like him,Trump.
he always bring happy to them,and most people here hope he can win the general election.cuz they think Trump will build china great again and Let America decline.

another lie of news .
Trump planned the riot in Hong Kong, and then the woman said that the riot was a beautiful scenery. Now trump is ruthless, even in the United States. He planned the beautiful scenery。
Yes,what I said was a lie.
 
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Rumor is Trump declared the insurrection act.

Ameriaca WILL LIVE ON!!!!!

(IF TRUE)

Multiple military has been called to report for duty.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Do you think war is a "civil" war or insurrection is justified when it is a minority seeking to impose itself on the rest of the country?
I believe self-defense is. The people of Hong Kong had every right. The American slave was in the minority but yet a war was fought on their behalf. The cause was just. It is the way of man throughout history. A man who wishes to be free cannot live in a state who wishes them in chains. In history, power is shifted back and forth between the honorable rulers and the tyrants. It is Biblical to see this change of power throughout the scriptures. God always dealt with the tyrant's rule.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Rumor is Trump declared the insurrection act.

Ameriaca WILL LIVE ON!!!!!

(IF TRUE)

Multiple military has been called to report for duty.
A lot of chatter on prepper networks about a US lockdown and something happening on Jan 20th. But I never put much weight into this stuff. I always need more evidence than hearsay or I know a guy in the FBI type of deal.
 

jennymae

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Will you please stop this?! I’m not supporting Antifa or BLM. I’m a conservative who is tired of the lies told by the President. I have been a conservative for my entire life, I’m brought up a conservative, but I don’t support Trump. Is that too hard to comprehend? Don’t lump me in with terrorists, whether they be from the left or from the right. I’m going back to the GOP when they start appreciating conservative values for real. I don’t want a lyin’, cheatin’, no good ladies of the night friendly excuse for a man in the White House! If you’re good with such a man, that’s on you!
 
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EleventhHour

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Will you please stop this?! I’m not supporting Antifa or BLM. I’m a conservative who is tired of the lies told by the President. I have been a conservative for my entire life, I’m brought up a conservative, but I don’t support Trump. Is that too hard to comprehend? Don’t lump me in with terrorists, whether they be from the left or from the right. I’m going back to the GOP when they start appreciating conservative values for real. I don’t want a lyin’, cheatin’, no good ladies of the night friendly excuse for a man in the White House! If you’re good with such a man, that’s on you!
You mean when you take a picture holding up a Bible that does not mean you are a Christian?

Hope about when a group of pastors gathers around the president and a picture is taken, isn't there some power in the camera to make it so, kinda like Dorothy's red shoes
helped her get back to Kansas?
 

jennymae

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You mean when you take a picture holding up a Bible that does not mean you are a Christian?

Hope about when a group of pastors gathers around the president and a picture is taken, isn't there some power in the camera to make it so, kinda like Dorothy's red shoes
helped her get back to Kansas?
You know, a con artist’s camera is like a jug of moonshine, it’ll make pert near everybody a hero...
 

soberxp

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I believe self-defense is. The people of Hong Kong had every right. The American slave was in the minority but yet a war was fought on their behalf. The cause was just. It is the way of man throughout history. A man who wishes to be free cannot live in a state who wishes them in chains. In history, power is shifted back and forth between the honorable rulers and the tyrants. It is Biblical to see this change of power throughout the scriptures. God always dealt with the tyrant's rule.
Proverbs 6:16-19
King James Version
16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, 【a lying tongue】, and 【hands that shed innocent blood,】

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, 【feet that be swift in running to mischief,】

19 【A false witness that speaketh lies,】and 【he that soweth discord among brethren.】


They are doing these things, no matter who initiated them or for what purpose, but it is not accordance with the Bible
 
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KT88

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Totally bogus, rioters at BLM rallies were condemned by both the Dems and GOP.

Trying to compare the BLM movement/rallies to the trump incited riot is false equivalence.

BLM rallies were based on facts not a bogus election steal claim by the trumpers and his GOP cronies.
 
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kaylagrl

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Totally bogus, rioters at BLM rallies were condemned by both the Dems and GOP.
That is a flat out lie. Harris was calling on people to bail them out of jail. The Dems did not condemn the violence UNTIL Cuomo said it was affecting the voters. Then, when it was almost over Biden said something about it.


Trying to compare the BLM movement/rallies to the trump incited riot is false equivalence.
BLM rallies were based on facts not a bogus election steal claim by the trumpers and his GOP cronies.
Based on facts?! rofl George Floyd was a drug addict. What "facts" are you talking about? smh Listen 1% Biden and 2% Harris didn't win bigger than the first black president, let alone Trump. Didn't happen! But go on an swill that kool aid. Nothing to me. 75 million people know better.
 
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kaylagrl

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Proverbs 6:16-19
King James Version
16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, 【a lying tongue】, and 【hands that shed innocent blood,】

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, 【feet that be swift in running to mischief,】

19 【A false witness that speaketh lies,】and 【he that soweth discord among brethren.】


They are doing these things, no matter who initiated them or for what purpose, but it is not accordance with the Bible

Oh, you're talking about China throughout that whole text. Lying, shedding innocent blood etc. You think people should lay down and submit to communism? Seriously. Some of you people here worry me. Do you think the Jews shouldn't have tried to fight back? Unreal.