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Valid ballots dropped in ballots boxes. Those ballots are verified first. These are legal. Change the laws if you don't like it


People are upset how trump is endangering our lives and he is in fact a traitor. I think prison is what is appropriate in trump's case.
Um. No. People are being gaslit into chasing ghosts by the media. I'm fairly apolitical, choosing rather to pay my allegiances to Christ, but a sane and levelheaded analysis of political ideologies versus what the media says reveals a very sobering and deep level of societal manipulation.

They are yanking your chains. People aren't really communicating anymore. It's just bullheaded disagreements and calls for violence like what @HillsboroMom just did in the post above.
 

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Okay, Trump’s done a lot of stupid stuff, but I don’t think he should be punished, neither by hanging nor prison. His legacy is what it is and he will be judged by the people’s interpretation of that.
 

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Well he is a traitor and supposedly that is what they do with traitors. I am 100% against the death penalty but I believe she was referring to a legal process as opposed to a mob that wanted to have their own trial and hanging of Pelosi, Pence and others. Trump is very responsible for what happened. He is an accessory to murder and attempted kidnapping. Rudy Guiliani got on the stage right before trump and said let's have a trial by combat. Trump said we cannot let this happen. Someone has to do something. Fight, fight fight. At best Trump is like someone who shoots a gun through the wall and it ends up killing someone. Still a felony.
 

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Well he is a traitor and supposedly that is what they do with traitors. I am 100% against the death penalty but I believe she was referring to a legal process as opposed to a mob that wanted to have their own trial and hanging of Pelosi, Pence and others. Trump is very responsible for what happened. He is an accessory to murder and attempted kidnapping. Rudy Guiliani got on the stage right before trump and said let's have a trial by combat. Trump said we cannot let this happen. Someone has to do something. Fight, fight fight. At best Trump is like someone who shoots a gun through the wall and it ends up killing someone. Still a felony.
turn off c n n. it is affecting your reality based thinking.

like you think random people dropping off random ballots at random locations is just fine..

voting is done in voting booths, not drop boxes..
 

rastai

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turn off c n n. it is affecting your reality based thinking.

like you think random people dropping off random ballots at random locations is just fine..

voting is done in voting booths, not drop boxes..
No i don't have a problem with it if it is proven to be secure and not prone to fraud such I believe it has. Is voting a right or a privilege? Plenty of people do not have time or money to travel and wait at the booth so this allows them to do so. What would be better is to make election day a national holiday so people wouldn't have to work. Then you could say everyone has to vote in person. So what's your alternative for people who can't make it to the booth?
 

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No i don't have a problem with it if it is proven to be secure and not prone to fraud such I believe it has. Is voting a right or a privilege? Plenty of people do not have time or money to travel and wait at the booth so this allows them to do so. What would be better is to make election day a national holiday so people wouldn't have to work. Then you could say everyone has to vote in person. So what's your alternative for people who can't make it to the booth?

properly done absentee ballots, only mailed to whom requested them.

no drop boxes, if the person does not get them into the mail in time to get there by election day, welp, too bad...
 

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Why would going through the mail and passing through untold number of hands be in any way more secure then a secure box. Common sense would say drop boxes are more secure
 
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Playing stupid isn't such a smart move.

In fact, it's dishonest.
Message boards are designed to be used for messages. I never said it's wrong to use the dislike button, it's just objectively low effort and does nothing to enhance the conversation nor does it build up in a constructive way.

Good to know you think I'm stupid and dishonest. This thread is starting to stink.
 
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Well I disagree with you 100%. .
Great, I'm willing to listen.

The issue is not with the government per se but us Christians especially parents.
There we go, right off the top we can agree. I don't have children, but I agree, it can be a lot of the problem. Church is too closed about sexual matters, both for youth and for married couples. Very few parents are open about sex with their children, they are afraid to talk about it. I agree many problems stem from that fact. My mother, a nurse, taught us about sexual issues appropriate to our age. She didn't leave it to the school and by the time I was old enough to have sex ed in school I already knew everything I needed to know from my parents.


I do not have the statistics but I will not be surprised to find that majority of those aborting are christians.
I don't think you could say a majority of people who call themselves Christians. But I'm sure there are many, so called, Christians that would. But you can sit in a garage all day and call yourself a Ford Fiesta, it doesn't make you one. Get where I'm going? Name only "Christians. That doesn't mean abortion still isn't wrong, it doesn't mean we stop fighting it and it doesn't mean we don't vote people in office that support abortion, no matter what the party. And Dems agree with abortion, without restrictions and now are talking infanticide. Now that we have to stop, that is a gov't issue.



What about premarital sex, the root cause? I maintain that any body who indulges in premarital sex, whether contracentives are used or not, whether it results in pregnancy or not, is equally at fault.
What about it? Yes, if you have irresponsible sex, if you have no issue with sex outside of marriage, you're more likely to have a child that you haven't planned for or do not want. That doesn't mean you have to murder your baby! There are other options. That doesn't change what I said about abortion.


What about very rich christian married men who lure innocent, poor and naive school girls for sex in exchange for help and later dump them when they take in or have satisfied their lusts?.
Rich Christian married men are luring school girls for sex are they? Christian men, what say you? How far are you going to go to defend abortion?? I was somewhat with you till this comment. We're getting into the conspiracy forum territory with this one. No facts or stats whatever to bear this out.



We must protect our girls from these wolves by making sure we bring them up in the way of the Lord by example. Not by correcting them when they are wrong while they are seeing the worst in our own behaviour. How will they believe what we say?
Absolutely need to bring our daughters up correctly. And I'll go another step, let's raise our sons to respect young women and wait till marriage. In fact I'll go two steps further, how many fathers are no longer in the home? Or mothers? How has divorce affected the nuclear family? No fathers to raise sons, no mothers to raise daughters? Kids shoved back and forth between parents homes. Who wants to take responsibility for that?! Anyone?


The point is that most Christian parents have neglected their duty to bring up their children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. They want freedom, they get freedom, forgetting that there are limits to freedom. Even with God, there are boundaries of freedom. Maybe, we should stop blaming the government and go back to the drawing board for inward assessment of our modern day parenting.
Yes, we should look into bad parenting. Good, great. I'm not blaming the gov't for raising children badly, what I am blaming them for is laws that allow a woman to murder her unborn child, now to the point of infanticide. That is a gov't issue. And we cannot support abortion as Christians. Yes, it's a multi- layered issue, no doubt. But every day thousands of innocent babies are being murdered. Their blood is on our hands if we don't do everything we can to stand against a gov't that promotes and supports it.

We always find lame excuses to cover our shame of dereliction of duty. While we lobby the government for better policies that favour our course, we must also be alive to our responsibilities.
Totally true, and our responsibilities are to stand against abortion and keep people out of office who promote it. That's the first line of defense, stop the killing of innocent babes.
 
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oh well, I read them. My red X shows I do not agree with your opinion. When necessary I will say why. If not necessary, the X subsists. The X actually makes it easier than to continue to argue unnecessarily, maybe for a dumb like me, according to @Runningman !!!!!
No one cares or thinks your red x is special. It is actually a white x in a red circle. You do not get points for your x's.

Few people will mark a post with an x and then not even bother to say why. The x makes nothing easier. If you cannot bother to say why you disagree, then people will avoid you. This is not facebook.
 
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So Miss International refuses to answer the questions I asked and just marked an X. Not very talkative then, are you! LOL!

I hope these x'ers don't walk into a wall with their noses in the air and all.
 

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It's just what the Constitution says. The Bible says we should obey the law of the land. The law of the land says treasons should hang.
And to be clear: I'm not saying I personally want to hurt or kill the soon-to-be-ex-president. I'm simply stating what US law says.

If it were up to me, prison would be adequate. And not some "Club Fed" high-class prison. He should be in gen pop with the people he has brain-washed.
 
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Message boards are designed to be used for messages. I never said it's wrong to use the dislike button, it's just objectively low effort and does nothing to enhance the conversation nor does it build up in a constructive way.

Good to know you think I'm stupid and dishonest. This thread is starting to stink.
The person doing all the xing of others believes she was born a Christian

I don't understand why people do not first check the bios. You can learn alot right there. No one is going to be on the same page with someone who does not understand the concept to begin with. shrugs
 

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in my state of ga. the city of atlanta had ballot drop boxes set up , and people could just drive up and put ballots in them.
I do not live in Georgia, so I am not in a position to say what did or did not happen, or what the law is.

However, the Secretary of State of Georgia personally looked into all of the accusations of fraud there. You may have heard of him. He is a Republican, and he was, until recently, a proud supporter of the Donald. He voted for Trump. He wanted Trump to win. He would have LOVED to find instances of fraud against Biden, evidence to disqualify Biden and give all 16 electoral votes to Trump.

He found none.

He took his vows to his country over his vows to his party. He decided it was more important to be honest than to let "his guy" win.

There's a great clip of him chewing out members of his party for the shenanigans they've been trying to pull.

He's one of the Republicans who still has a spine. I wish there were more like him.
 

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All these fine distinctions are now moot. The Democratic party is now DE FACTO The Communist Party of America (CPA).

Take a close look at the Sanders....
Sanders is not a Democrat.

Everything you say after that is moot.

The Democratic Party in the US is so far right that Sanders, certainly the most left-leaning lawmaker in congress, is not welcome.

Sanders is too liberal to be a Democrat. And get this ... he's too conservative to be a SOCIALIST. He isn't even a member of the Socialist Party, he's a member of the Independent Party, which is significantly more conservative than the Socialists.

And the Socialist Party is significantly more conservative than the Communist Party.

So, in case you're having trouble keeping up (which, considering your other posts, is a very real possibility):

In order from liberal to conservative, it's something like this:

Communists < Socialists < Bernie Sanders < Democrats < Republicans

Now, Trump is neither "conservative" nor "liberal." His economic policies are all over the place. One day he wants to lower taxes, but the next day he wants to increase spending. So basically, he's just an idiot. Maybe he's stupid because he's never had to work an honest day's labor in his life, and he doesn't realize you can't both increase spending and lower taxes. Or maybe his goal is to destroy the entire American economic system. Either way, he's unfit for the position of President, and anyone with at least two brain cells to rub together should have known that 4 years ago.
 
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And to be clear: I'm not saying I personally want to hurt or kill the soon-to-be-ex-president. I'm simply stating what US law says.

If it were up to me, prison would be adequate. And not some "Club Fed" high-class prison. He should be in gen pop with the people he has brain-washed.
Except you aren't saying what the US law says. You're single-mindedly cherry picking the bits about capital punishment while ignoring the parts about due process and how the law is fairly applied. You're calling for violence.
 
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