Transgenderism is a mental disorder

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Kolistus

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Do you think this happens because they are trying to change reality and reality can’t really be changed? Even if they get everyone to agree that what they do or think is ok...they aren’t really going to escape what God says....and I don’t think they understand this.

Romans‬ ‭2:15‬ ‭
In that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them.
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Well said friend. I suspect Romans 2:15 is precisely the reason for pride parades. Their conscience is accusing them, so they need constant reassurance from themselves and others that it is normal.
 

mustaphadrink

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The delusion of the abnormal is reasonbly obvious. Over the last few years they have adopted words and made them mean what they don't mean and in so doing they have created a new prison to put people into purely on the basis of words. They have done this to make it easy for them to shut you up or get you ignored.

A classic example of their distortion of words is the charge of hate speech. To them hate speech is anything that is said that they disagree with. Whereas the truth is that so called hate speech is actually speech they hate because it is the truth. They don't want anyone to find out the truth about the ghastly lives they live so all they can do is try and silence truth tellers by accusing them of hate speech.

I won't use the word "gay"to refer to homosexuals because it is a lie which has been proven by solid research. I use the word homosexual because that is the truth and I have been told by homosexuals that it is offensive to use that word. We are as white as the driven snow so you must not use offensive words that tarnish our character.

In my research over the years I have found around 3,000 pieces of research that verify the truth that children do best when they are raised by their own mum and dad. Of course this puts a downer on adoption by homosexuals so they set out to disprove the evidence of the 3,000 pieces of research. (joke).

In all they produced 59 pieces of research that said homosexuals were as good as heterosexuals as parents if not better. The only problem was that under peer review, everyone was debunked because they did not fit the standard methodology required for something like this. In other words they were not interested in evidence. They wanted to put their own spin on it to make them look good.

The saddest thing about all this is that governments have been sucked in hook, line and sinker to the rhetoric and lies of the homosexual movement to the point they are a protected species so don't you dare say anything negative about them. Better they be left to wallow in their misery believing that all is right with the world and we can demand anything and the government will come running and bend the knee.

Here is a word of prophecy for you. The day will come when the government will make paedophilia legal. Already claims are being made that it should not be illegal because pedophiles were born that way, the same as homosexuals are born that way.
 

mustaphadrink

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I do believe it's a disorder. I do believe it's sin. And sin that falls under or outright can be labelled disorder doesn't excuse the fact that it's sin.

That being said, like any kind of sin these people need to be shown the truth in Christ's name. They need support, not in their sin nor in compromising and watering down truth, but support to know they are STILL human beings in need of a savior. And that there's hope for those dark feelings and it's not vain things you can do to your body or outside image.

It's not a politically correct problem, it's a heart and sin problem.
Anything that is abnormal and being transgender is as abnormal as they come is a product mainly of a person's misplaced identity. I don't know if you have realised like me that all these weird claims are fairly new and have only found traction now. And have you found like me that the family is breaking up at a rate of knots producing children tha are dysfunctional and without an identity.

With all these weird and wonderful claims the first thing to do is to ask the person about their family. In most cases you find a dysfunctiional family behind it all and it may be something very simple.

When I studied Social Science at university for my undergrad degree, we looked at the family, marriage and divorce. The lecturer was hot on provable statistics or he was not interested. One thing he pointed out was the fact that latch key kids felt abandoned coming home to an empty house. He said that kids wanted to unload the moment they got in the door but if they had to wait they were not interested so the problens of the day went to bed with them.

If that is a fact and I don't doubt that it is, today children are being abandoned wholesale. In listening to commentary today, the most important thing in a women's life is to have a career. Not to care and cherish their children. They can be looked after by strangers.

Yesterday the PM of Australia was praising the fact that the recovery from covid 19 has begun and I dont know how many jobs have been created. And then he said that most of them have been taken up by women. This fact alone shows how we are abandoning our children to the care and control of strangers. Kids that will end up not knowing a sense of identity.

With no sense of identity what is the best thing to do? Create your own and if you can't find it in who you are then create another persona.

On a personal note the last school I taught in was a catholic school. There I encountered kids who were very secure in who they were. The majority of them had fathers who owned their own business and worked hard at it, and mothers usually worked part time in the business to ensure that they were there to give their children full attention when they were home. That sense of identity and security came across in the way they related to me. They had no problem respecting my authority but at the same time they never had a problem talking to me about anything that was on their mind.
 
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In a promo video for the Vanity Fair Magazine, Jenner said, “Bruce always had to tell a lie, he was always living that lie. Every day he always had a secret. From morning until night. Caitlyn doesn’t have any secrets. As soon as the Vanity Fair cover comes out, I’m free.” According to the statement, to escape her past life, she wanted a new identity and by undergoing gender reassignment, she is supposed to accomplish that.

The former psychiatrist in chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital is pouring rain on the Bruce Jenner “Call Me Caitlyn” parade that’s sure to have the former Olympic athlete’s cheerleaders steaming.

Not only does Dr. Paul R. McHugh consider changing sexes “biologically impossible,” he thinks being what is popularly called “transgender” these days is actually a “mental disorder.”

If Transgenderism is a mental disorder, then I think these people need our sympathy and prayers. What's your own take on that?

Here is an article I shared about that issue and my view about it: NEEDED: Sympathy for Caitlyn
It is the POWER OF SIN at work in the world.

All this talk about psychiatric underpinnings for sexual disfunction only address the symptoms. The cause is SIN.

God hates it. God refuses to accept it. God's Word tells us to turn our backs upon it, as well as all the other forms of idolatry that infest the world.

The Bible says we are engaged in a spiritual war. Sexual issues are part of that war.

Indeed, it's an issue that almost totally masks the work of the enemy in our lives and hearts. Who can really argue against love? When the world promotes love as the ultimate good, then despite all the aberrations worldly love takes we're supposed to accept it as an axiom of acceptable human behavior. 'It doesn't hurt anyone', we're told. But it does. It really does.

It infects our children. If pollutes our society by false redirection of what is and isn't LAWful in God's eyes. It accuses God of lying.

It is written that the homosexual will not see the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9). Are those who stand upon God's LAW being judgmental? Absolutely not. Those who approve of sexually deviant behavior judge themselves unworthy of the Kingdom of God (Acts 13:46) and sentence themselves to the Second Death- total destruction deletion and annihilation.

Those who defend SIN are not worthy of the name of Christian. They certainly don't know God at all.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
 

Jay610

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It's heartless to say to anyone they have a mental disorder, especially those who suffer enough rejection and persecution.

Please do not ever say this to any human, I mean they'll become more depressed and further from eternity with God.

(I do NOT agree with activism and pride parades - but that's irrelevent).

Remember you are commanded to love ALL people, not just say you love them.
LOVE is a VERB.

Also don't assume all LGBT people are going to hell, they can still accept Jesus and the good news of the Gospel.
Remember the thief next to Jesus when He was crucifed?

Jesus died to pay the price for all sins. And there is no sin worse than another.

Trying to be 'perfect' is an insult to what God offered as sacrifice, the murder of His son, the ONLY perfect human, Jesus Christ.

And you are doing what is worse, demanding that others be perfect too.

Shame on you.
 
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In a promo video for the Vanity Fair Magazine, Jenner said, “Bruce always had to tell a lie, he was always living that lie. Every day he always had a secret. From morning until night. Caitlyn doesn’t have any secrets. As soon as the Vanity Fair cover comes out, I’m free.” According to the statement, to escape her past life, she wanted a new identity and by undergoing gender reassignment, she is supposed to accomplish that.

The former psychiatrist in chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital is pouring rain on the Bruce Jenner “Call Me Caitlyn” parade that’s sure to have the former Olympic athlete’s cheerleaders steaming.

Not only does Dr. Paul R. McHugh consider changing sexes “biologically impossible,” he thinks being what is popularly called “transgender” these days is actually a “mental disorder.”

If Transgenderism is a mental disorder, then I think these people need our sympathy and prayers. What's your own take on that?

Here is an article I shared about that issue and my view about it: NEEDED: Sympathy for Caitlyn
I notice how justification for SIN quotes every disciple of hell possible. The ministers of satan are everywhere seeking ways to tempt those who easily qualify as prey. Love is supposed to be justification for SIN, but love of WHAT - exactly? Certainly not love of God because God has Himself declared what is or is not acceptable love to Him. It's in the Bible.

Jesus most often quoted Deuteronomy.

In chapter 22:5 the Bible says a man ought not wear women's clothing and a woman should not wear man's clothing. Tell that to all good Christian women and see how far you get. Virtually every one of them wears a form of male clothing.

In Leviticus 18:22 the Bible says a man should not have sex with another man. Does that mean its ok for women to have sex with one another because they aren't mentioned? Women today demand equality with men EXCEPT where Biblical admonitions and LAW is concerned. At that point they go their own way and justify themselves before each other and God.

Some fool out there is going to say Christians aren't under the LAW.

Wrong again. In Matthew 5:17 Jesus is quoted as saying, "I did not come to abolish the LAW. I came to fulfill it." Another Biblically illiterate person will say we aren't saved by the LAW, but by grace that allows us to put our hands on any foul thing we choose. Really? Do you not know O sinner the Bible refers to 2 different laws?

One LAW is the LAW of grace - given by God to Moses. Called Torah or Pentateuch, the first five books of the Bible tell us God's mind with regard to what He expects of us and HOW WE CAN BE SAVED. We didn't deserve this revelation and we didn't ask for it. God gave it to us freely.

One law is the law of works - formulated by the Jewish rabbinate during the Babylonian captivity. That particular form of legalism, followed by the Jewish faith to this day, is based upon works. It is given to Jews by their scholars and if according to their own words, "the goyim (gentiles) knew of it they'd kill us all"". Neither Jesus nor His disciples followed Talmud (Babylonian law). They followed Torah (God's LAW). Virtually every letter of the New Testament discusses the difference, but Christians being brain dead as far as ideology is concerned are unaware of this vital difference. As a consequence they make up their own law and tradition JUST LIKE PHARISEES BEFORE THEM.

Good Christians will deny God's Word and God's LAW so as to agree with secular wickedness. They even deny the words of the apostles warning against the excesses of the worldly age.

Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men - 1 Corinthians 6:9

Which do you choose SIN or RIGHTEOUSNESS? If SIN then run, do not walk, away from Christ and His salvation. If RIGHTEOUSNESS, then shed all the filth this world proclaims as right and good and excusable. It isn't.

Finally, we are each of us admonished BY JESUS as quoted in Matthew 16:24, "Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me."

Choose this day who you will serve - God or the flesh. If you do not deny the flesh you have no part in Christ.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
 

mustaphadrink

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It's heartless to say to anyone they have a mental disorder, especially those who suffer enough rejection and persecution.

Please do not ever say this to any human, I mean they'll become more depressed and further from eternity with God.

(I do NOT agree with activism and pride parades - but that's irrelevent).

Remember you are commanded to love ALL people, not just say you love them.
LOVE is a VERB.

Also don't assume all LGBT people are going to hell, they can still accept Jesus and the good news of the Gospel.
Remember the thief next to Jesus when He was crucifed?

Jesus died to pay the price for all sins. And there is no sin worse than another.

Trying to be 'perfect' is an insult to what God offered as sacrifice, the murder of His son, the ONLY perfect human, Jesus Christ.

And you are doing what is worse, demanding that others be perfect too.

Shame on you.
it is the truth that sets you free. it is love to tell the truth. it is hate to not tell the truth because people think everything is OK when it is not and often that leads to suicide.
 
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It's pretty clear to see it's a disorder...what else would it be? Sin is a disorder,the Puritans called sin insanity, and the whole universe is in disorder because of the fall.
The scary thing about homosexuality is that we now have a world and media which within the space of a few short years has become psychotically obsessed with lesbianism and sodomy not to mention there is a meteoric rise in demonic possesions,something is aloft here.
Hi Elysian,

Your right, sin is the disorder, and then Satan and all of his spirit's of wickedness in high places take up their command field within the persons mind, and so demise the person's fall. I came out of the lifestyle of lesbianism 13 years ago, and have been set free. It has not been an easy road, and still the fiery darts continue to shoot at me, but I love Jesus and His truth more than the lies of Satan and this world. Jesus has been faithful to keep me and teach me, and set me free. I came from a very abusive and dysfunctional family background. I had lots of emotional, mental, and physical abuse as a small child, and then to be abandoned emotionally was quite devastating to me. I have learned spiritual warfare against my adversary through God's word, being led by His Spirit, taking up my cross and denying myself for His desire and not what my desires say. This world can be quite convincing. I always line myself up with God's word. As the days grow darker the days are deceiving, and Jesus has taught me to be led by His Spirit and to carefully divide between truth and error.

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing assunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." (Hebrews 4:12)

What was even harder for me was that I was 6 years involved in the Gay Christian Gospel until Jesus began to show me His truth because I wanted His truth no matter what, even if it hurt. I went through a confusion of Gods word for a while because of the indoctrination of the false gay gospel that I allowed to entangle my mind. But thanks to the faithfulness of Jesus I have been renewed in my mind and heart and spirit, and continue to prayerfully seek Him. Life isn't easy, and its harder for some, and so the battle is greater for some, but I've learned through it to show myself approved unto God, and gained an intimacy with Him that comes at a high cost of self denial always seeking His will. So sin and Satan create the disorder of gender brokenness, but repentance and obedience through the filling of God's spirit brings deliverance and inner healing that the broken captives need. It's a true saying, lets hate the sin, but love the sinner, and pray for them. I'm a testimony of God's goodness, and someone's prayers!
 

Blade

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Well for the start God said "If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it.”

1st Cor 6:9 is not about believers "Unjust, unrighteous, wicked. Specially, heathen." If we believe in Jesus we are the righteous aka right standing with God. This is not based on how SINLESS we are its based on what CHRIST did. God is faithful to what Christ did.

And yes God hates sin so telling a lie is not OK and you still get to heaven vs trans/gay will send you to (FORGIVE me Father) hell. There is no SIN that got past the blood of Jesus Christ. Praise GOD glory to JESUS He does no see act talk like we do.

He already came died rose AMEN YES PRAISE GOD! So tell THEM He came died for them.. He set them free. Its already done
 
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I have reservations about labeling transgenderism as a "mental disorder." Nowadays pedophilia is getting more and more accepted as a "mental illness" and that people are born this way. I think when you label something as a "mental illness" you are giving them a free pass.
 

mustaphadrink

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Hi Elysian,

Your right, sin is the disorder, and then Satan and all of his spirit's of wickedness in high places take up their command field within the persons mind, and so demise the person's fall. I came out of the lifestyle of lesbianism 13 years ago, and have been set free. It has not been an easy road, and still the fiery darts continue to shoot at me, but I love Jesus and His truth more than the lies of Satan and this world. Jesus has been faithful to keep me and teach me, and set me free. I came from a very abusive and dysfunctional family background. I had lots of emotional, mental, and physical abuse as a small child, and then to be abandoned emotionally was quite devastating to me. I have learned spiritual warfare against my adversary through God's word, being led by His Spirit, taking up my cross and denying myself for His desire and not what my desires say. This world can be quite convincing. I always line myself up with God's word. As the days grow darker the days are deceiving, and Jesus has taught me to be led by His Spirit and to carefully divide between truth and error.

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing assunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." (Hebrews 4:12)

What was even harder for me was that I was 6 years involved in the Gay Christian Gospel until Jesus began to show me His truth because I wanted His truth no matter what, even if it hurt. I went through a confusion of Gods word for a while because of the indoctrination of the false gay gospel that I allowed to entangle my mind. But thanks to the faithfulness of Jesus I have been renewed in my mind and heart and spirit, and continue to prayerfully seek Him. Life isn't easy, and its harder for some, and so the battle is greater for some, but I've learned through it to show myself approved unto God, and gained an intimacy with Him that comes at a high cost of self denial always seeking His will. So sin and Satan create the disorder of gender brokenness, but repentance and obedience through the filling of God's spirit brings deliverance and inner healing that the broken captives need. It's a true saying, lets hate the sin, but love the sinner, and pray for them. I'm a testimony of God's goodness, and someone's prayers!
What a superbly wonderful testimony. Thankyou for telling us your story.
 
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MoonCresta

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I can can see why you may feel like this but it does have the
capacity to affect everyone.

A while back a temp started where I work he is a man, but it
soon became apparent that he was undergoing gender reassignment.

Gradually due to the hormones he was taking his skin started to
become softer and he lost body hair, he let his hair grow
long and started wearing skirts.

At first it did not effect me I worked in a different department. But then
one day I went to the ladies (rest room) and he was there and he
then started to use the ladies bathroom from that point on.

I felt really uncomfortable with that, especially as there are showers
in there. He was still a man, the hormones did not change that he
still had male anatomy. He also had a male brain.

After that I started to use a different rest room but it meant having to
go to a different floor to do so. Due to the equality laws there was nothing
any of us could say about it. Now imagine if that had been the other way
around and it was a woman using the man's toilets and walking in on them
while they were showering.

There has been some articles in the UK press about the possibility that
people who have changed gender can have their birth certificates
altered. In theory your daughter could fall in love with a man and hope
to marry them, then find out they were really a woman or visa versa.

i believe there are rare incidences where people are born intersex and that
all embryos are female, but later the males attributes and Dna kicks in.
In rare instances something can go wrong and so babies can be born both
male and female.

However the gender confusion we are seeing now is not just that, it is
something entirely different.

Only today I was reading a news article about an 8 year old boy who
asked his parents if he could wear girls clothes and so the mother has
arranged for him to start the new school year dressed as a girl.

just because someone is a bit of a Tom boy or likes girlie things does
not mean they have gender issues. It's normal for children to want
to experiment a bit or want what other children have etc. But
unfortunately what was once considered innocent curiosity or a bit of
a fad, is now called gender identity crisis.

I honestly believe there is a strong spiritual element to all of this.
As it was in the days of Noah - we ain't seen nothing yet, this is only
just the start.

Good afternoonaroonie!

Amen Sister! (If Sister is what you really are!! JUST KIDDING!) :LOL:

It is sad and tragic though, the influence this is having on our young people.
 
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In a promo video for the Vanity Fair Magazine, Jenner said, “Bruce always had to tell a lie, he was always living that lie. Every day he always had a secret. From morning until night. Caitlyn doesn’t have any secrets. As soon as the Vanity Fair cover comes out, I’m free.” According to the statement, to escape her past life, she wanted a new identity and by undergoing gender reassignment, she is supposed to accomplish that.

The former psychiatrist in chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital is pouring rain on the Bruce Jenner “Call Me Caitlyn” parade that’s sure to have the former Olympic athlete’s cheerleaders steaming.

Not only does Dr. Paul R. McHugh consider changing sexes “biologically impossible,” he thinks being what is popularly called “transgender” these days is actually a “mental disorder.”

If Transgenderism is a mental disorder, then I think these people need our sympathy and prayers. What's your own take on that?

Here is an article I shared about that issue and my view about it: NEEDED: Sympathy for Caitlyn
Do you not know the unrighteous will NOT inherit the kingdom of God? - 1 Corinthians 6:9 Deuteronomy 22:5

Society holds these values to be untouchable, that a man or woman may be free to live as they wish so long as it is peacefully accomplished. But the LAW of God is specific. There is SIN which is punished by destruction and divine wrath. There is no excuse at all.

But there is an escape from wrath and death....

This escape begins with the LAW, which convinces us of SIN. The LAW declares that we must humble ourselves before God and repent of it - to do it no more forever. When we humbly and sincerely repent of our SIN, God is faithful and just to forgive our SIN - but not before we repent of it. In fact, God does not hear the prayer of sinners except the prayer of repentance.

Once forgiven, we are encouraged to accept the life and direction of Christ Jesus as our own. From that point on we are expected by God to live according to His LAW, enabled by the Holy Spirit but not excused from it. Jesus did NOT come to abolish the LAW (Matt 5:17).

Finally, the spiritual walk of faith in Christ requires us to "take up our cross each day and follow Jesus" (John 9:23)

There is no excuse and no opportunity to appeal our situation before God because of some physical ailment or accident of birth. Modern secular society disqualifies SIN by claiming its a mental defect, accident of birth, chemical imbalance or simple bad habit. In fact, the Bible calls it SIN and demands we stop it/repent. God gives us forgiveness and an escape from it, but never excuses it.

Those who support humanistic acceptance of SIN do not walk with God. Neither do they know him. Theirs is the destiny of destruction upon physical death. Those that repent of their SIN are granted immortality and the privilege of knowing God forever.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft..
 

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I don't understand transgenderism, but I will say this; we are all children of God and none of us are without fault or sin. Therefore we need to respect that a transgender person feels the way they do and accept them as who they are. Jesus did it with the tax collectors and prostitutes after all.

Best thing any Christian can do for a person in such a situation is keep our opinions to ourselves ( when dealing with such individuals in a one on one basis) , pray for God to open the afflicted person's heart every day to the mercy of Christ and not let the reality that a few have to live become a fashionable trend that debases one of the core things that make us human - being born man or woman.
 

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In a promo video for the Vanity Fair Magazine, Jenner said, “Bruce always had to tell a lie, he was always living that lie. Every day he always had a secret. From morning until night. Caitlyn doesn’t have any secrets. As soon as the Vanity Fair cover comes out, I’m free.” According to the statement, to escape her past life, she wanted a new identity and by undergoing gender reassignment, she is supposed to accomplish that.

The former psychiatrist in chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital is pouring rain on the Bruce Jenner “Call Me Caitlyn” parade that’s sure to have the former Olympic athlete’s cheerleaders steaming.

Not only does Dr. Paul R. McHugh consider changing sexes “biologically impossible,” he thinks being what is popularly called “transgender” these days is actually a “mental disorder.”

If Transgenderism is a mental disorder, then I think these people need our sympathy and prayers. What's your own take on that?

Here is an article I shared about that issue and my view about it: NEEDED: Sympathy for Caitlyn
It is amazing to me to see how far the population has wandered away from God. There used to be a time were there was a sense of God, even among those who did not commit themselves to Christ. But now, it seems that the whole world has abandoned any fear of God and are willfully embracing the sinful nature with open arms.

They have gone so far as to think that they can just change their gender at will without there being any consequences.

The judges have stepped over the line and have ruled in favor of same-sex marriages, which they will be held accountable for.

Parents think that they are doing good by their children by allowing them to choose their gender based on how they feel. But all they are doing is aiding in their destruction. They have forgotten that we are supposed to resist sin and not embrace it!

Because of unbelief, they also don't understand that there are the spiritual influences of the powers of darkness who can use their sinful natures to influence peoples feelings, leading a man to pursue femininity or a woman to pursue masculinity and to indulge in it.

Whether LGBTQ or any other letter of the alphabet, they are just embracing the sinful nature. And yes, they surely do need our prayers, because as the scripture says,

"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
 

Lanolin

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I think just pray for them
demons and evil spirits have no qualms inhabiting bodies of anybody no matter what gender they are, creating havoc in peoples minds, and through lust, or sex, getting into other peoples bodies.

with the 'pride parades' people only do that in big groups in cities, but those pride parades are themselves a lot of infighting and hooha, because they wanna be seen as normal, when its not normal to go strutting round the streets half naked and covered in glitter or whatver, and then expect full police protection for example espeically when the proud people start getting drunk and hitting on each other.

Its not as if the proud people are out there planting trees, picking up rubbish, or organising foodbanks or anything.
 

Lanolin

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I come back to this thread cos I was reading a memoir that was about Bruce Jenner/caitlyn written by one of his ex wives, who was married to him as Bruce for a few years but divorced him when he told her he was trans and wanted he to live with him as his/her lesbian wife

She (Linda Thompson) had two sons with him. Bruce went on to marry Kris Kardashian and have two daughters, but he has fathered six children overall in 3 marriages.

I think its become more common when people (men?) have enough money to indulge in their 'gender dysphoria' and start dressing as women. Also the surgeons and cosmetic industries that cater for all of this. They make a heap of money out of ...all the hairdressing, hair removal, makeup, clothing, hormone treatments, plastic surgery etc etc.

I have not heard or read about many women wanting to change gender and become men. Though you could argue women can do most things men do anyway and dress like them so it isnt a huge shock when its done in reverse. eg women can have an education, work outside the home, wear pants, grow facial hair if they want or just stop shaving their legs.

The doco that I saw 'caitlyn the untold story' I think my personal opinion is that Bruce/caitlyn is indulging in a fantasy trying to figure out who he/she is, but to me he looks and sounds like a man playing at being a woman still. When it shouldnt be, I think a lot of people have both masculine and feminine sides to them if they are to be a WHOLE person.

I think for women married to such men (Linda was one of Elvis girlfriends and HE wore makeup and did drugs too) they kind of tolerate all the weird things men do up to a point. Then it just becomes silly.