Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

PennEd

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See what they are not reporting. Then ask yourself why you are not hearing MUCH more about the devastation the vaccine is causing RIGHT NOW, let alone down the road:

https://vaxpain.us/
 
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Tip of the iceberg of the devastation to come when 6 months, a year down the road the spike protein replicated in the cells of the vaccinated causes an immense immune response that attacks the body itself, causing sepsis and other autoimmune diseases, when the wild and or mutated virus is encountered.

https://thecovidblog.com/2021/02/07...tor-has-miscarriage-days-after-covid-vaccine/
That is an old misinformation theory about Syncytin-1 fact check it. The antibodies will not attack this as it is not the same as the spike protein. Google it. Plenty of science already discussed about it. False. Her miscarriage was just a miscarriage. 138 million have been vaccinated, miscarraiges are not happening as a result. Of course someone will out of 138 million who would have without the vaccine.
 
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See what they are not reporting. Then ask yourself why you are not hearing MUCH more about the devastation the vaccine is causing RIGHT NOW, let alone down the road:

https://vaxpain.us/
138 million vaccinated. Adverse affects are being recorded and they are not finding any problems. Even the allergic get over it quickly. Believe false information if you want. It is your right. But it does not make it fact.
 

PennEd

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138 million vaccinated. Adverse affects are being recorded and they are not finding any problems. Even the allergic get over it quickly. Believe false information if you want. It is your right. But it does not make it fact.
This is just a flat out denial of the hard facts. You probably didn't even look at the reported evidence. It's better to just go to the site that has collated the info from the Gov. VAERS site, but I'll copy and paste just a bit of it since you apparently don't want to go there.


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Patient was feeling dizzy and under the weather after the vaccination. The following day he died in his sleep during a nap.
01/25/202101/26/202175MDIED ON 01/26/2021983482
per daughter pt suffered a stroke 1 hour after he was given the covid vaccination. he passed away on 01/24/2021.
01/20/202101/20/202190MDIED ON 01/24/2021983169
Client received the COVID-19 vaccine on 1/5/21 by the Vaccine clinic. Plans were for Hospice services. Client tested positive for COVID-19 by rapid testing on 1/8/21. On 1/10/21 at 0900 Client was unresponsive and without vital signs. Orders were for DNR, and CPR was not initiated.
01/05/202101/08/202183MDIED ON 01/10/2021982942
per recipient spouse - vaccine recipient became ill during the night of 1/21/21 or early morning of 1/22/21 and was deceased in the morning of 1/22/21.
01/21/202101/21/202157MDIED ON 01/22/2021982890
Pt presented to ER via EMS at 1556 3 days after receiving vaccine. pt was breathing approximately 50 times a minutes and o2 sats in the 70's upon arrival. NP decided to intubate, Rocuronium and Versed given. Pt became bradycardic and 1 amp of Atropine was given without improvement. No pulse felt, CPR started per ACLS protocol. 7 Epi's given. Time of death- 1632. After TOD pt was swabbed for COVID-19 and the results were positive.
01/22/202101/25/202167MDIED ON 01/25/2021982826
Was at work on 1/26/21 and collapsed, no known complaints a the time. CRP was initiated immediately, transported to ER and pronounced dead
01/21/202101/26/202140MDIED ON 01/26/2021982778
"We held our COVID 19 vaccination clinic in our facility on 1/5/2021 with partnership of a pharmacy. One of our housekeeping staff (63 year old male) who had confirmed to be vaccinated, came to the facility and was vaccinated by the pharmacist with Pfizer vaccine. The pharmacist explained the facts of vaccine and the employee signed the consent form for the vaccine. He was monitored in our observation area under the supervision of an RN post vaccination for 15 minutes. He did not complain of any side effects and did not appear to be in any distress. Per daughter, employee went to his pharmacy in the evening some time after leaving the facility. Daughter reported that he called his wife from the pharmacy and asked his wife to come and pick him up as he did not feel well. His wife went to the pharmacy and found him in the parking lot where he gave her his medical card and asked her to get his medication from the pharmacy. His wife went to pick up the medication and upon her return, found him in the car in the passenger seat. The daughter reported that he took the medicine that the wife brought from the pharmacy while in the car. His wife drove him home and upon reaching home when she tried to get him out, he was unresponsive. His wife called her children to help her and there was no response. Family called the paramedics and he was pronounced dead. I have informed pharmacy and they are reporting to FDA per their protocol. PHD has been notified as well and they are doing their reporting per their procedure. Daughter reported that employee had a history of heart disease and diabetes and had a pace maker."
01/05/202101/05/202163MDIED ON 01/05/2021982541
36 hours after vaccination, the patient had increased respiratory distress. He was placed on high flow nasal cannula oxygen with mild improvement. He then continued to be hypotensive requiring IV fluids and subsequently IV vasopressors. Patient's BP was stabilized with vasopresor, however he continued to deteriorate clinically with altered mental status and lethargy, concerned for bowel peroration based on physical exam by MD. He was then emergency intubated and placed on mechanical ventilation. He was then transferred to acute care hospital near by.
01/22/202101/24/202181MDIED ON 01/25/2021982370
Patient died at hospital on j/16/2021 approximately 48 after receiving vaccination. Believe death related to fall at home prior to vaccination.
01/14/202101/16/202193MDIED ON 01/16/2021981938
UNKNOWN/ASYTOLE Narrative: Please refer to section 6. 68y/o male with h/o severe peripheral vascular disease with previous left AKA 2/3/20, s/p bilateral bypasses in the past. Pt recently underwent right AKA on 1/12/21. Per Hospital remote data 1/10/21 pt c/o shortness of breath, CXR demonstrated right lower lobe opacity & left basilar infiltrate. Pt s/p >10 days emperic IV abx. Moderna vaccine 0.5ml IM was administered via left deltoid on 1/22/21 around 16:21. On 1/23/21@05:14 code blue was called as pt found to be unresponsive, breathless and pulseless, facial cyanosis noted, CPR started immediately.Pt found to be in asystole. ACLS guideline followed but no return of spontaneous circulation, At 05:32 pt remained pulseless and breathless and was pronounced. Autopsy currently pending.
01/22/202101/23/202169MDIED ON 01/23/2021981912
Patient presented to the Emergency Department complaining of chest pain, pale, cool diaphoretic, and hypotensive. The patient was discovered to have a large saddle pulmonary embolism, went into cardiac arrest and expired. Of note, the patient received her second Moderna COVID vaccine on 1/23, which would place her first one approximately 12/25 if she received them at the appropriate interval. This information is from the patient's daughter and the ED record, the information is not available in CAIR. Per the daughter, the patient started feeling ill on 1/21, improved on 1/25, and then acutely worsened on 1/27, resulting in the ED visit.
01/23/202101/23/202167FDIED ON 01/27/2021981849
died 01/16/2021
01/13/202101/16/202192MDIED ON 01/16/2021981406
Stroke, death
01/15/202101/18/202171FDIED ON 01/18/2021981225
Patient with inoperable pancreatic cancer received second Pfizer vaccine approximately 12:30 pm on 1/27/21. At approximataely 16:30, patient complained of abdominal pain and was given Levsin 0.125mg and morphine 5mg orally. At approximately 19:30 patient was found on the floor covered in a large amount of emesis, unresponsive without a pulse.
01/27/202101/27/202159FDIED ON 01/27/2021981061
Patient died 3 days post Moderna vaccine.
01/22/202101/25/202187FDIED ON 01/25/2021980107
Patient noted to have a change in status at 11:23PM that night. Her oxygen saturation had dropped from normal on room air to 82% and required oxygen. She was also noted to be lethargic with altered mental status and not responding verbally. She then began to mottle. Her oxygen saturation worsened to 51% on 4Liters of oxygen by the next day and she expired on 1/14/21.
01/12/202101/12/202190FDIED ON 01/14/2021979990
sudden cardiac arrest
01/07/202101/09/202163MDIED ON 01/09/2021979926
Pt began experiencing shortness of breath 3 days after vaccine and expired later that day.
12/30/202001/02/202181FDIED ON 01/02/2021979837
Per EMS, the patient was last seen walking and talking to wife 10 minutes prior to EMS arrival. EMS reports via patients wife, that patient was upstairs to change for his doctor appointment then patient's wife found him down. The patient received his COVID-19 vaccine on 1/25/21. EMS states they gave 5 rounds of EPI then patient moved into vfib then was shocked once but returned to asystole. In ED, the patient initially in asystole CPR was started immediately. The patient was given 3 rounds EPI, 1 round bicarb. The patient stayed in PEA throughout. Patient was given tPA. Patient continued to be in asystole and time of death was called at 11:35 am.
01/25/202101/27/202176MDIED ON 01/27/2021979818
Patient arrived at ER with complaints of CPR in progress. Per EMS, patient became short of breath while performing yard work on 1/26/2021. At arrival, patient was in fine v fib with a total of 6 shocks delivered along with 300 mg amiodarone followed by 150 mg amiodarone, 1 amp epinephrine and 2 epinephrine drips adminstered en route to ED. CPR initiated at 1755 and EMS reports asystole at 1829. TOD 1909 pronounced by ED DO Dx: Cardiac arrest
01/25/202101/26/202177MDIED ON 01/26/2021979533
Patient recieved vaccine 1 of covid 19 i 1/19/2021. She felt poorly on 1/20/2021. She felt dizzy and fell at 3 AM on 1/23/2021. She felt poorly and did not know her son's name which was not normal. She went to ER on 1/24. She was assessed as not having fractures. She was going to be transferred to a skilled nursing facility. She was not having respiratory complaints. She was awaiting transfer when her O2 levels started dropping substantially. She declined aggressive intervention and she died within a few hours.
01/19/202101/20/202182FDIED ON 01/25/2021979255
 

PennEd

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I don't want to copy and paste all the deaths that occurred within 7 days of vaccination. Go to the site yourself. They not only have the deaths, but all the other adverse reactions as well:

https://vaxpain.us/
 

PennEd

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How can you possibly say that!

Did you go through and read the report from each and every one of the multitudes of people that died after getting the vaccine?

And as mentioned before, just a tiny fraction of the listed Covid deaths are actually from Covid.

Most of the listed died WITH Covid, not FROM Covid.

So how can you without hypocrisy, say that all those people died from something other than the vaccine?
 
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How can you possibly say that!

Did you go through and read the report from each and every one of the multitudes of people that died after getting the vaccine?

And as mentioned before, just a tiny fraction of the listed Covid deaths are actually from Covid.

Most of the listed died WITH Covid, not FROM Covid.

So how can you without hypocrisy, say that all those people died from something other than the vaccine?
Because reporting that someone died after getting the shot does not mean that the shot killed them.

The first time that happens everyone will know about it.

These people died from other causes. You are not understanding how VAERS works. Anyone can report to it and make stuff up. The reports get investigated. The same number of deaths will occur among 138 million people who don't get vaccinated. Someone will not feel good go home and lay on the couch and die of heart failure. Some will have been vaccinated some will not have been vaccinated. This will continue to occur world wide as billions get vaccinated. When they examine the cause of death they can tell if the vaccine was a contributing factor. I trust the science not the hype.
 

PennEd

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Because reporting that someone died after getting the shot does not mean that the shot killed them.

The first time that happens everyone will know about it.

These people died from other causes. You are not understanding how VAERS works. Anyone can report to it and make stuff up. The reports get investigated. The same number of deaths will occur among 138 million people who don't get vaccinated. Someone will not feel good go home and lay on the couch and die of heart failure. Some will have been vaccinated some will not have been vaccinated. This will continue to occur world wide as billions get vaccinated. When they examine the cause of death they can tell if the vaccine was a contributing factor. I trust the science not the hype.
Simply staggering circular reasoning!

I’m speechless.
 
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There is no vaccine. What is being jabbed into people is not a vaccine. It is gene therapy and thank you very much, I shall leave my genes as God intended. I thought they came out pretty good.

Here is a cute little blip from Moderna created PRE 'vaccine' approval, in which they do call what is in the little vials, GENE THERAPY and not a vaccine. Now of course, it is being called a 'vaccine'. Gene therapy is a viable strategy they say, for developing a vaccine. So what is in the (cough cough) vaccine? gene therapy

Isn't that cute how that works?

Two COVID-19 vaccine trials, both of which use messenger RNA (or mRNA) technology to teach the body to fight the virus, have reported efficacy of over 90 percent.

These findings, announced by Moderna on Nov. 16 and by Pfizer and its partner BioNTech on Nov. 9 (with an update on Nov. 18), demonstrate that gene therapy is a viable strategy for developing vaccines to combat COVID-19. Both vaccine candidates use mRNA to program a person's cells to produce many copies of a fragment of the virus. The fragment then stimulates the immune system to attack if the real virus tries to invade the body. get the news here

You can call it what you will, but it is not a vaccine.
 
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  • By referring to COVID-19 vaccines as “vaccines” rather than gene therapies, the U.S. government is violating its 15 U.S. Code Section 41, which regulates deceptive practices in medical claims

  • The mRNA injections are gene therapies that do not fulfill a single criterion or definition of a vaccine

  • COVID-19 “vaccines” do not impart immunity or inhibit the transmissibility of the disease. They only are designed to lessen your infection symptoms if or when you get infected. As such, these products do not meet the legal or medical definition of a vaccine

  • Since a vast majority of people who test positive for SARS-CoV-2 have no symptoms at all, they’ve not even been able to establish a causal link between the virus and the clinical disease

  • By calling this experimental gene therapy technology a “vaccine,” they are circumventing liability for damages that would otherwise apply
 
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  • By referring to COVID-19 vaccines as “vaccines” rather than gene therapies, the U.S. government is violating its 15 U.S. Code Section 41, which regulates deceptive practices in medical claims

  • The mRNA injections are gene therapies that do not fulfill a single criterion or definition of a vaccine

  • COVID-19 “vaccines” do not impart immunity or inhibit the transmissibility of the disease. They only are designed to lessen your infection symptoms if or when you get infected. As such, these products do not meet the legal or medical definition of a vaccine

  • Since a vast majority of people who test positive for SARS-CoV-2 have no symptoms at all, they’ve not even been able to establish a causal link between the virus and the clinical disease

  • By calling this experimental gene therapy technology a “vaccine,” they are circumventing liability for damages that would otherwise apply
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We got some good news this morning. Those who have completed their vaccination series are no longer required to quarantine for 2 weeks if they happen to come in contact with an active covid19 case. Looks like we're on our way to a normal life again. I hope that everyone will get vaccinated as soon as they possibly can.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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We got some good news this morning. Those who have completed their vaccination series are no longer required to quarantine for 2 weeks if they happen to come in contact with an active covid19 case. Looks like we're on our way to a normal life again. I hope that everyone will get vaccinated as soon as they possibly can.
Good news? You may have back a small token of the freedom they've stolen from you by allowing them to inject you with an unknown substance. I'm not going anywhere near it.
 
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Good news? You may have back a small token of the freedom they've stolen from you by allowing them to inject you with an unknown substance. I'm not going anywhere near it.
What is unknown about it. Do you not believe that the scientific analysis on each molecule of ingredient is fact? Do you think all the scientists and analysts in the world who examine these ingredients are lying to us? Do you think that is a healthy mental perception of the way things really are?
 
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Vaccines may prevent infection and not just symptoms, study suggests

Health experts have said that data so far has shown that Covid-19 vaccines prevent symptoms of the virus -- but a new study suggests that the Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines may also prevent infections.

A team at the Mayo Clinic health system looked at more than 31,000 people across four states who had received at least one dose of either vaccine -- and found the vaccines were upward of 80% effective in preventing infection 36 days after the first dose.

Vaccine efficacy was 75% 15 days after the first dose, and it appeared to be 83% after a total of 36 days passed. But that number rose to nearly 89% when researchers examined only people who received two doses, according to the study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed.

While the trials that Moderna and Pfizer used to win Food and Drug Administration authorization for their vaccines looked for symptomatic infection, the Mayo researchers said they looked for both symptomatic and asymptomatic infection.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/20/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html
 

PennEd

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