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Silliness on steroids!

SCRIBE- "They that called upon the name of the Lord were calling themselves by the name of the Lord"

This is a flat out falsehood. Scholars are not sure what this phrase means. Some believe it to have a NEGATIVE connotation. That the translation should be men began to PROFANE the name of the Lord. But no one is certain. Since God gave them 120 yrs since that point to repent, it seems likely it means PROFANE.

Seth's daughters were so homely these "sons of God" from Seth, who was made in ADAM'S fallen image, (See Genesis 5:3) NOT God's, and were CERTAINLY NOT "sons of God", had to go after Cain's daughters?!! Absurdity.

There was also NO restriction as to who could marry who. Seth's offspring was free to marry anyone. You simply made that up.

SCRIBE- "Adam and Seth on the West of Eden clung to a theology of a redeemer. And this is where Enoch's prophesy fragment from Jude sheds light. They believed in a coming judge that would execute judgment upon these in Cain's camp that spoke harsh words against him."
Another point you made up out of thin air. Just a speculative lie, with NO basis in Scripture. Where does it say Adam and Seth believed God was going to judge those in Cain's camp?

And how insane is it to think the children of supposedly saved "sons of God" Seth's offspring, mating with Cain's offspring, would result in Giant "humans", with inhuman abilities?


Did notice ya just couldn't scroll on by, and simply start your own thread, and spread your speculative lies there.

Same pride that got you standing in line to inject gene altering poison into yourself, based on the good hearts and motives of the world and the elites that desperately want to cull humanity.
I thought you weren't going to debate. Not debating is one thing, asking everyone who reads your science fiction theory not to post a different hermeneutic in CC was wishful thinking. Of course those who think the error in your interpretations should be pointed out will do so. There is no such thing as a thread that does not get opposing views posted.

The text does not say that the sons of God and the daughters of men had children that were giants. You made that up. It says...
4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
The Nephilim is Hebrew word of Giants not the Hebrew word for the mighty men. You are following a habit of others who hope their audience wont notice and then pretending like it says that the children of this union were called Nephilim instead of Mighty Men. But we do notice.

And if Enoch lived 364 years contemporary with Adam, then don't you think he heard about Adam walking with God. And it was said of Enoch that he walked with God. See if we just stick to what we do know then the speculation is not so much speculation as reasonable conjecture. Seth lived 55 years after Enoch was translated. Therefore if Enoch prophesied of the Lord coming with ten thousands of his saints to execute judgment on the ungodly and all their harsh words that they had spoken against him, would not those at that time, such as Seth and the tribe of which Enoch was a part on the west of Eden assume he was talking about those on the East of Eden who were speaking harsh words against him?
 

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How can anyone not like Chuck Missler????
Chuck Missler, Nephilim In Angel's Procreating With Humans, UFO's, Plagarism, just to mention a few

The now deceased Missler was a wacked out fraud, even Calvary Chapel dumped his Missler like the plague.

Evidence of Plagiarism of Chuck Missler

by Christopher A. McHorney

This section contains a detailed page by page comparison of the Chuck Missler ©1995 book Magog Invasion (MI) to Edwin Yamauchi's ©1982 book titled Foes from the Northern Frontier: Invading Hordes from the Russian Steppes (FNF).

Missler has copied over seventy percent of the material in the chapter entitled "The Scythians" from FNF. This extensive plagiarism in undeniable.

After we exposed this, Chuck Missler confessed to the plagiarism.

ChuckMissler.comPlagiarism
A Los Angeles Times article reported that Missler and co-author Hal Lindsey had plagiarised a portion of Professor Edwin Yamauchi's 1982 book Foes From the Northern Frontier in their own 1992 book The Magog Factor. Hal Lindsey's manager Paul Krikac said Missler had written the passages in question, but conceded that Lindsey is responsible for the overall manuscript. After the missed attribution was acknowledged by Missler After the missed attribution was acknowledged in a letter (TMI_Letter.PDF), book shipments to bookstores were discontinued and all of the authors' proceeds donated to a ministry.[1]
Chuck Missler has also been accused of plagiarism of Michael Talbot's 1992 book The Holographic Universe in his 1999 book Cosmic Codes: Messages from the Edge of Eternity, a culmination of research and tidbits Chuck gathered over many years. Missler has also acknowledged this missed attribution of all sources and has since publicly apologised. He said a correction would be inserted in all unsold copies and the book itself and an updated bibliography in subsequent printings. Missler has donated all of the author's proceeds from the book to a ministry.
Here is Chuck Missler talking about the Missing attributions in Cosmic Codes:

With the advances in technology (these days anyone can virtually take any piece of text, enter it online and get back required acknowledgement information), and a reorganisation of K-House's publishing department, Chuck hopes to avoid missed acknowledgements in future publications.
 

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Good day, PennEd!

Once again, we have Enoch in agreement with the information regarding the Nephilim's stature and cannibalism, as listed below:

Enoch 7:11-13
"And they conceiving brought forth giants; whose stature was each three hundred cubits. These devoured all which the labor of men produced; until it became impossible to feed them; When they turned themselves against men, in order to devour them.
Just one example where the book of Enoch disagrees with scripture.

A Cubit 18-20 inches, is the interpretation by many biblical scholars

Using the conservative Cubit at 18 inches, the book of Enoch has giants that are 300 Cubits or 450ft tall according to your quote?

Looking below at Deuteronomy 3:12, the last surviving giant Og King of Bashan had a bed 13.5 feet in length, 6 feet wide, made if iron?

Its apparent why the Hebrews/Jews never accepted the book of Enoch, they were well aware it was (Science Fiction)

450ft tall giants, running around eating humans?

Real Big Smiles! :giggle:

The Giants were large humans, Og King of Bashan is an example,last survivor of the giants

Having a bed 13.5 feet long, and 6 feet wide, an ole David went up against their warrior Goliath, took him out with a sling and stone (y)

Deuteronomy 3:11-13KJV
11 For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.
12 And this land, which we possessed at that time, from Aroer, which is by the river Arnon, and half mount Gilead, and the cities thereof, gave I unto the Reubenites and to the Gadites.
13 And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.
 

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I don’t agree with Missler on everything but his view on Genesis 6 is hard to refute. Why? Because it’s biblical.
There are a few topics in scripture that are great at revealing pride, this is one of them.
Nothing biblical whatsoever, Angel's procreating with humans.

The Sons Of God were human men, that married human women

Teaching Angels have sex with human women, and maintaining human sperm is a fairytale in mythology, and false teaching.

Look There, Elimelech's Sons Took Human Wives Toooo :giggle:

Ruth 1:3-4KJV
3 And Elimelech Naomi's husband died; and she was left, and her two sons.
4 And they took them wives of the women of Moab; the name of the one was Orpah, and the name of the other Ruth: and they dwelled there about ten years.

Genesis 6:1-6KJV
1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

"The Sons of God" took wives, Angel's don't marry humans, it's that simple.

Matthew 22:30KJV
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
 

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It's almost as if there is a connection.
As if his human mother had sex with fallen Angel's?

More (Sci-Fi) propaganda :giggle:

Wikipedia: Robert Wadlow
Wadlow was born in Alton, Illinois, on February 22, 1918, to Harold Franklin and Addie May (Johnson) Wadlow, and was the oldest of five children.
 

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Leaving alone the Great Pyramid, which NO ONE even today, knows how it was built, there are MASSIVE structures, and building stones, some that are thought to be Pre-Flood in origin, that we may not have the technology to move NOW.

Not too tough for the first generation Nephilim: Baalbek, in Syria is one of the more known impossible 3 million pound stones, used for an unfinished Temple:


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That's it, the book of Enochs 450ft giants moved those big stones around? :)

Enoch 7:11-13
"And they conceiving brought forth giants; whose stature was each three hundred cubits. These devoured all which the labor of men produced; until it became impossible to feed them; When they turned themselves against men, in order to devour them.


Just one example where the book of Enoch disagrees with scripture.

A Cubit 18-20 inches, is the interpretation by many biblical scholars

Using the conservative Cubit at 18 inches, the book of Enoch has giants that are 300 Cubits or 450ft tall according to your quote?

Looking below at Deuteronomy 3:12, the last surviving giant Og King of Bashan had a bed 13.5 feet in length, 6 feet wide, made if iron?

Its apparent why the Hebrews/Jews never accepted the book of Enoch, they were well aware it was (Science Fiction)

450ft tall giants, running around eating humans?

Real Big Smiles! :giggle:

The Giants were large humans, Og King of Bashan is an example,last survivor of the giants

Having a bed 13.5 feet long, and 6 feet wide, an ole David went up against their warrior Goliath, took him out with a sling and stone (y)

Deuteronomy 3:11-13KJV
11 For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.
12 And this land, which we possessed at that time, from Aroer, which is by the river Arnon, and half mount Gilead, and the cities thereof, gave I unto the Reubenites and to the Gadites.
13 And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.
 
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IMO, the manipulation of the very makeup of human beings is inspired by demonic beings. When we see God telling the Israelites to destroy everything having to do with the ungodly nations around them we should understand that even proximity seems to rub off the wrong way.

The fact that Israel never did completely obey what God told them regarding these things, comes to roost in the constant conflicts they endured and where we are in history today.

Frankly, I don't believe that if a Christian does not have a bigger view of the world than his or her own little piece of it, they are able to understand what is actually going on, let alone respond to it in the way that God has already laid out.

I am not a conspiracy theorist. I am a biblical realist. I would suggest that those who follow all the various youtube videos filled with this conspiracy or that conspiracy are being led astray. We have a far bigger conflict that we are actually living and the Bible describes it as fact in a manner that seems to suggest you will or you will not believe it.

There is a reason the internet and TV are filled with false teachers, prophets and so called miracle workers. God allows these things because people follow after what their eyes 'see' rather than God who is not seen but whose handiwork is all around, attesting to His existence.

The Bible describes a great falling away and yet day after day we are told by false leaders that there is going to be some great revival and millions clap and agree that is the message from God but it is a lying spirit.

Very few grasp this while this planet makes its journey around our sun and yet there is really no excuse to remain ignorant.
Some would consider the 6th century inception of the Papacy, its baptism and incorporation of every stripe and type of Pagan symbolism and ritual, its total corruption of Biblical truth which included even the elementary foundational doctrine of "salvation by grace through faith alone", and its sentencing to death of between 50 - 150 MILLION innocent Christians for "heresy", as the fulfillment of the "falling away" -- as in the millions of Protestant Christians worldwide who held to this view until only about 100 years ago when rejected, discarded 16th century Jesuit ideas began to replace centuries old, firmly established Protestant Reformation eschatological interpretations. ;)
 
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As if his human mother had sex with fallen Angel's?

More (Sci-Fi) propaganda :giggle:

Wikipedia: Robert Wadlow
Wadlow was born in Alton, Illinois, on February 22, 1918, to Harold Franklin and Addie May (Johnson) Wadlow, and was the oldest of five children.
The idea that angels can have sex and impregnate human women is just asinine...they don't even have human DNA, they "neither marry nor give in marriage", and the text plainly says the giants existed BEFORE the "sons of God" had sex with the "daughters of men".

The back and forth Hebrew Chiasm in these beginning chapters of Genesis contrasts loyal humanity with disloyal humanity, culminating with the comingling of the two and the resulting total corruption of the human race (save Noah and company). The "sons of God" were simply human men loyal to God who got seduced by "the daughters of women" which were obviously disloyal human female descendants of rebellious Cain.

The reason God destroyed the Antediluvians was because if He did not intervene, there would eventually be no one left for which He could preserve a holy lineage through which the Messiah could come, that's all.
 
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Well, the inhabitants of the earth will be seeing demonic beings during the time of God's wrath. For at the sounding of the 5th trumpet/1st woe, an angel will open the Abyss releasing hordes of demonic beings resembling locusts, with their main goal being to torment mankind with stings like those of a scorpion. After that, at the sounding of the 6th trumpet/2nd woe, four fallen angels will be released with their demonic army of 200 million will kill a third of the earths population. At that same time is when the angel of the Abyss, the beast, comes up out of the Abyss. My point being that there will be some unprecedent events taking place on the earth during that time.
Will the survivors of this "200 million man army which kills one third of mankind" saddle up and ride around on the seven headed beast which comes out of the sea with feet of a bear, body of a leopard, mouth of a lion and dragon like heads? :p

(Revelation is a symbolic book, and the interpretation of the symbolic trees and seas and grass, etc., can be found in the OT.)
 
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As if his human mother had sex with fallen Angel's?

More (Sci-Fi) propaganda :giggle:

Wikipedia: Robert Wadlow
Wadlow was born in Alton, Illinois, on February 22, 1918, to Harold Franklin and Addie May (Johnson) Wadlow, and was the oldest of five children.
Well I highly doubt that since those first round of fallen angels were bound in chains of darkness by the Lord Jesus far under the earth until the final days for doing that thing. Nevertheless for geeks that like to research freaks there is a pretty common connection between paganism and such strange birth defects, not always to that person's fault if they were bound by Satan either from birth or shortly after, but there is a very strange phenomenon to it. This is probably best exemplified in India and such tribal places where they frequently have birth defects that they connect to the demonic false gods of their religion. As it pertains to Robert Wadlow it is likely his mother or father or both were part of that popular Anglo-Celtic witchcraft cult, thus his membership from a young age and then later in life also ending it young as one of the giants, not a very highly spoken about type of creature in the Bible.
 
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I thought you weren't going to debate. Not debating is one thing, asking everyone who reads your science fiction theory not to post a different hermeneutic in CC was wishful thinking. Of course those who think the error in your interpretations should be pointed out will do so. There is no such thing as a thread that does not get opposing views posted.

The text does not say that the sons of God and the daughters of men had children that were giants. You made that up. It says...
4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
The Nephilim is Hebrew word of Giants not the Hebrew word for the mighty men. You are following a habit of others who hope their audience wont notice and then pretending like it says that the children of this union were called Nephilim instead of Mighty Men. But we do notice.

And if Enoch lived 364 years contemporary with Adam, then don't you think he heard about Adam walking with God. And it was said of Enoch that he walked with God. See if we just stick to what we do know then the speculation is not so much speculation as reasonable conjecture. Seth lived 55 years after Enoch was translated. Therefore if Enoch prophesied of the Lord coming with ten thousands of his saints to execute judgment on the ungodly and all their harsh words that they had spoken against him, would not those at that time, such as Seth and the tribe of which Enoch was a part on the west of Eden assume he was talking about those on the East of Eden who were speaking harsh words against him?
Nice picture of you preaching, bro! Looks like whatever you was preaching about, you must have ruffled quite a few giant sex-machine angel wings :ROFL:
 

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Well I highly doubt that since those first round of fallen angels were bound in chains of darkness by the Lord Jesus far under the earth until the final days for doing that thing. Nevertheless for geeks that like to research freaks there is a pretty common connection between paganism and such strange birth defects, not always to that person's fault if they were bound by Satan either from birth or shortly after, but there is a very strange phenomenon to it. This is probably best exemplified in India and such tribal places where they frequently have birth defects that they connect to the demonic false gods of their religion. As it pertains to Robert Wadlow it is likely his mother or father or both were part of that popular Anglo-Celtic witchcraft cult, thus his membership from a young age and then later in life also ending it young as one of the giants, not a very highly spoken about type of creature in the Bible.
Sci-Fi opinion, not found in Gods words of truth
 
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Sci-Fi opinion, not found in Gods words of truth
There are certainly Rephidim, Anakim, and other giants among the Amorites and famously the Phillistine Goliath and his brothers, and other monsters described in the Bible. This indicates a class of giants separate from the fallen angel born Nephilim whom were all wiped out by the Flood (and those wicked first angels bound in chains of darkness until the final days) that is so popular another Topic, but frankly a moot topic since both the fallen angels were bound under the earth and can do nothing and their monstrosity children were destroyed by the hand of God. There were giants after the flood and within regular races such as the accounted for Amorites (Og king of Bashan notably in the Torah as Israel begins to inherit their land) and Phillistines (whom are descendants of Mizraim and a branch of the Egyptians) and all of them were part of the pagan cultures. Giants and such abominations are universally villains to be wiped out in the Bible from the heroics of Caleb son of Jephunneh to King David
 

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There are certainly Rephidim, Anakim, and other giants among the Amorites and famously the Phillistine Goliath and his brothers, and other monsters described in the Bible. This indicates a class of giants separate from the fallen angel born Nephilim whom were all wiped out by the Flood (and those wicked first angels bound in chains of darkness until the final days) that is so popular another Topic, but frankly a moot topic since both the fallen angels were bound under the earth and can do nothing and their monstrosity children were destroyed by the hand of God. There were giants after the flood and within regular races such as the accounted for Amorites (Og king of Bashan notably in the Torah as Israel begins to inherit their land) and Phillistines (whom are descendants of Mizraim and a branch of the Egyptians) and all of them were part of the pagan cultures. Giants and such abominations are universally villains to be wiped out in the Bible from the heroics of Caleb son of Jephunneh to King David
(The Fallen Angel Born Nephilim)?

Where is that in the scripture, its not in my KJV Holy Bible.

More (Sci-Fi) opinion, without scriptural support :giggle:
 
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(The Fallen Angel Born Nephilim)?

Where is that in the scripture, its not in my KJV Holy Bible.

More (Sci-Fi) opinion, without scriptural support :giggle:
Genesis 6. Also the fate of the fallen angels is in the canonical scripturas in Jude and Peter without any needs for the popular ancient aliens heresy forgery book, so really no one has anything to worry about them anymore, they were wiped out long ago and dealt with because God is Stronger! I suppose I'll just post the most popular of the verses then.

Genesis 6:1-7
1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,


2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

2 Peter 2:4-6
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

Jude 1:6-7
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
 

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Genesis 6. Also the fate of the fallen angels is in the canonical scripturas in Jude and Peter without any needs for the popular ancient aliens heresy forgery book, so really no one has anything to worry about them anymore, they were wiped out long ago and dealt with because God is Stronger! I suppose I'll just post the most popular of the verses then.

Genesis 6:1-7
1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,


2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

2 Peter 2:4-6
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

Jude 1:6-7
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
The Sons Of God were human men, that married human women

Teaching Angels have sex with human women, and maintaining human sperm is a fairytale in mythology, and false teaching.

Look There, Elimelech's Sons Took Human Wives Toooo :giggle:

Ruth 1:3-4KJV
3 And Elimelech Naomi's husband died; and she was left, and her two sons.
4 And they took them wives of the women of Moab; the name of the one was Orpah, and the name of the other Ruth: and they dwelled there about ten years.

Genesis 6:1-6KJV
1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

"The Sons of God" took wives, Angel's don't marry humans, it's that simple.

Matthew 22:30KJV
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
 

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Genesis 6. Also the fate of the fallen angels is in the canonical scripturas in Jude and Peter without any needs for the popular ancient aliens heresy forgery book, so really no one has anything to worry about them anymore, they were wiped out long ago and dealt with because God is Stronger! I suppose I'll just post the most popular of the verses then.

Genesis 6:1-7
1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,


2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

2 Peter 2:4-6
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

Jude 1:6-7
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Same Angels seen below, waiting for the last day judgement

You attempt at creating two different groups of Angel's has failed.

2 Peter 2:4KJV
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Jude 1:6KJV
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
 
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Same Angels seen below, waiting for the last day judgement

You attempt at creating two different groups of Angel's has failed.

2 Peter 2:4KJV
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Jude 1:6KJV
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
There are two groups of angels which fall in the Bible indeed. Where we stand in time one group fell long a go before the Flood and those fallen angels being bound in chains of darkness and thrown into hell in their age of high wickedness. Whether they mated with human women, or whether they had some influence in the high corruption of that era the result is the same, the cataclysmic world destroying Flood. In this Flood sent by God to destroy the Creation that had become so degenerate that it repented Him of making everything, those fallen angels and whatever had the breath of life in it was utterly destroyed save Noah and his Sons Saved By The Word of God (JESUS) and the fathers and mothers of all the animals in the rest of history thereafter.

The second fall of angels is found in the prophecy of the book of Revelation. Like in the days of Noah some angels shall be seduced indeed but this time to the old wicked red dragon's side. they wage a futile war in heaven, lose, and are cast out to the earth and barred from heaven to the rejoicings of heaven but woe to the earth so that all the evil kingdom from the wicked angels to the wicked people to the wicked monstrosities to their inverted king that wicked old serpent cursed above all animals; they can meet their ultimate destiny in the lake of fire at the end of the world, praise Jesus!
 

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There are two groups of angels which fall in the Bible indeed. Where we stand in time one group fell long a go before the Flood in an age of high wickedness. Whether they mated with human women, or whether they had some influence in the high corruption of that era the result is the same, the cataclysmic world destroying Flood. In this Flood sent by God to destroy the Creation it repented him of making those fallen angels and whatever had the breath of life in it was utterly destroyed save Noah and his Sons Saved By The Word of God (JESUS) and the fathers and mothers of all the animals in the rest of history thereafter.

The second fall of angels is found in the prophecy of the book of Revelation. Like in the days of Noah some angels shall be seduced indeed but this time to the old wicked red dragon's side. they wage a futile war in heaven, lose, and are cast out to the earth and barred from heaven to the rejoicings of heaven but woe to the earth so that all the evil kingdom from the wicked angels to the wicked people to the wicked monstrosities to their inverted king that wicked old serpent cursed above all animals; they can meet their ultimate destiny in the lake of fire at the end of the world, praise Jesus!
You will closely note, your response us "Void" of scripture to validate your claim,because there usnt any :giggle::giggle:
The event of satan and his Angel's (devils) being cast to the earth, took place once in the scripture,as seen below.


Luke 10:17-18KJV
17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

How did the devils know Jesus,from their first estate in heaven.

Mark 1:34KJV
34 And he healed many that were sick of divers diseases, and cast out many devils; and suffered not the devils to speak, because they knew him.

The event below took place once, and you dont have the year, month, day, or hour it took place.

Revelation 12:7-9KJV
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
 
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Besides just Genesis 6, Jude, and 2 Peter, all canonical scriptures, not forgeries like book of Enoch, or more lurid heresies, I'd also note there to be the connections of Jude and Peter's confirmation of the first round of fallen angels to Sodom and Gomorrah as means to describe the future end of the world. Sodom and Gomorrah is interesting on many levels for Peter and Jude to recall along with the wickedness of the angels and the Flood. In a sort of a parallel example the good angels which love God in the guise of men meet with Lot. The depraved men of the city of Sodom attempt to rape the angels and hurt meek and honorable Lot only to be blinded and utterly overthrown in a very famous episode of the Bible. Lot of course survives by the Word of God (JESUS) to Abraham in the chapter previous.

Genesis 19:1-29
1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;


2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.

4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:

5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,

7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

10 But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.

11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

12 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:

13 For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the Lord; and the Lord hath sent us to destroy it.

14 And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the Lord will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.

15 And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.

16 And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the Lord being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.

17 And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.

18 And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord:

19 Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:

20 Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one: Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.

21 And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which thou hast spoken.

22 Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do anything till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.

23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.

24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;

25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.

27 And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he stood before the Lord:

28 And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.

29 And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.