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throughfaith

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And His shed blood.
Rom 5
10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved BY HIS LIFE .
 

throughfaith

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Nope i'm talking about the gospel.

I hear you all the time repeating the mantra 'DBR'.. but what I never hear you talk about really is Jesus and His life here on earth.

Te gospel centers around the ''''LIFE, death and resurrection of Christ.

Do you know what Jesus' life accomplished? it's a very very important part of the gospel message. Paul unpacks it for us using the OT scriptures. So you should no?
Rom 5 is what you may have missed.
10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
 

phil36

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Rom 5 is what you may have missed.
10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Yep, I love that verse Paul in this verse is referring to Jesus' resurrected life.? . But I'll ask you the question again. Try not to deflect this time.


Do you know what Jesus' life accomplished? it's a very very important part of the gospel message. Paul unpacks it for us using the OT scriptures. So you should no?
 

throughfaith

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Yep, I love that verse Paul in this verse is referring to Jesus' resurrected life.? . But I'll ask you the question again. Try not to deflect this time.


Do you know what Jesus' life accomplished? it's a very very important part of the gospel message. Paul unpacks it for us using the OT scriptures. So you should no?
Fullfulled all righteousness and fulfilled the law .
 

oyster67

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It was taught in the O.T.
Isaiah
53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, [there is] no beauty that we should desire him.
53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were [our] faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
53:5 But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither [was any] deceit in his mouth.
53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put [him] to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see [his] seed, he shall prolong [his] days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
 

throughfaith

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Isaiah
53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, [there is] no beauty that we should desire him.
53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were [our] faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
53:5 But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither [was any] deceit in his mouth.
53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put [him] to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see [his] seed, he shall prolong [his] days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
We understand that in light of a complete bible.
 

oyster67

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Yes. some actually did.
The Holy Spirit helped them understand the Scriptures just like HS gives understanding to us...

Luke
2:25 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name [was] Simeon; and the same man [was] just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him.
2:26 And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.
2:27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law,
2:28 Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said,
2:29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word:
2:30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,
2:31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;
2:32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.
2:33 And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him.
2:34 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this [child] is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;
2:35 (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.
2:36 And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity;
2:37 And she [was] a widow of about fourscore and four years, which departed not from the temple, but served [God] with fastings and prayers night and day.
2:38 And she coming in that instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord, and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem.
 

phil36

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Fullfulled all righteousness and fulfilled the law .


All of Scripture points to the redemption in Christ, the Gospel IS Jesus, his, life death and resurection.


---- I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring; he shall bruise your head,
and you shall bruise his heel.” Gen 3:15

--- And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together. Gen 22:8

--- In this manner you shall eat it: with your belt fastened, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand. And you shall eat it in haste. It is the Lord’s Passover. 12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt that night, and I will strike all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and on all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgments: I am the Lord. 13 The blood shall be a sign for you, on the houses where you are. And when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and no plague will befall you to destroy you, when I strike the land of Egypt. Exodus 12:11-13

---- He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth; like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and like a sheep that before its shearers is silent, so he opened not his mouth. Isaiah 53:7


----The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! John 1:29

---- but with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot. (1 Peter 1:19)

---- Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you really are unleavened. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 1 Corinthians 5:7

---- He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. 1 john 2:2

----For God has done what the law,weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,


---- And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. Rev 21:14


----“Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other. Isaiah 45:22






All scripture points to the life, death and resurrection of Christ as the fulfillment of all the promises in the OT, The gospels shows this and teach it, Peter teaches it, John teaches it and Paul teaches it.. all one gospel message that salvation can be in no other than Christ.. The OT saints looked forward to the promise, the NT Christ fulfils it.


Also this is why Paul says we are all one in Christ there is only one ekklesia of God, one church (whatever you want to call god's people). Paul does this succinctly and in a straightforward manner:


Ephesians 2

11 remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.....

13a But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far......

18-19 For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God

21-22 in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit.


As Paul says both Jews and gentiles are built together as a holy temple in the Lord.
 

oyster67

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All of Scripture points to the redemption in Christ, the Gospel IS Jesus, his, life death and resurection.


---- I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring; he shall bruise your head,
and you shall bruise his heel.” Gen 3:15

--- And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together. Gen 22:8

--- In this manner you shall eat it: with your belt fastened, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand. And you shall eat it in haste. It is the Lord’s Passover. 12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt that night, and I will strike all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and on all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgments: I am the Lord. 13 The blood shall be a sign for you, on the houses where you are. And when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and no plague will befall you to destroy you, when I strike the land of Egypt. Exodus 12:11-13

---- He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth; like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and like a sheep that before its shearers is silent, so he opened not his mouth. Isaiah 53:7


----The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! John 1:29

---- but with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot. (1 Peter 1:19)

---- Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you really are unleavened. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 1 Corinthians 5:7

---- He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. 1 john 2:2

----For God has done what the law,weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,


---- And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. Rev 21:14


----“Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other. Isaiah 45:22






All scripture points to the life, death and resurrection of Christ as the fulfillment of all the promises in the OT, The gospels shows this and teach it, Peter teaches it, John teaches it and Paul teaches it.. all one gospel message that salvation can be in no other than Christ.. The OT saints looked forward to the promise, the NT Christ fulfils it.


Also this is why Paul says we are all one in Christ there is only one ekklesia of God, one church (whatever you want to call god's people). Paul does this succinctly and in a straightforward manner:


Ephesians 2

11 remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.....

13a But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far......

18-19 For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God

21-22 in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit.


As Paul says both Jews and gentiles are built together as a holy temple in the Lord.
(This is the note I was referring to.)