When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

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pittsburghjoe

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Job 38:7
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

What is this talking about? I have this weird idea that it is mentioning Black Holes ..dark stars.
Would it mean Black Hole Blazars are associated with souls?
What are the odds of 66 Blazars pointed at Earth right now?

Did satan somehow get involved? Why do we call him "lucifer the morning star"? Or prince of the power of the air?
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
Job 38:7
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

What is this talking about? I have this weird idea that it is mentioning Black Holes ..dark stars.
Would it mean Black Hole Blazars are associated with souls?
What are the odds of 66 Blazars pointed at Earth right now?

Did satan somehow get involved? Why do we call him "lucifer the morning star"? Or prince of the power of the air?
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That set of passages is God challenging Job and demanding an answer. This is serious talk going on here and Job has gotten himself into a pretty hot situation with his words.

Verse 7, as far as I can tell, basically implies that the sons of God, the angels, existed before the earth did.
 
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Runningman said:
That set of passages is God challenging Job and demanding an answer. This is serious talk going on here and Job has gotten himself into a pretty hot situation with his words.

Verse 7, as far as I can tell, basically implies that the sons of God, the angels, existed before the earth did.
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Are you saying the angels were the sons of God? Or are they the souls of man before coming here?

Lucifer was a morning star that went dark.
 
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Are you saying the angels were the sons of God? Or are they the souls of man before coming here?

Lucifer was a morning star that went dark.
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Yes I think the "sons of God" were/are angels based off the context of other passages that use the same term.

Genesis 6:2
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Job 1:6
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
 
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Runningman said:
Yes I think the "sons of God" were/are angels based off the context of other passages that use the same term.

Genesis 6:2
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Job 1:6
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
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Okay, that's fine, it doesn't kill my idea of morning stars being something we should look into.

Black Holes used to be called "Dark Stars". Blazars are light from a Dark Star. I think there is something important going on. Like they are the gateway to hell. If you know what DMT is, people report being shot out into space. I think they are traveling on these rays from the blazars ..they are jumping to the gateway of hell.

The entropy on the surface of a Black Hole is extremely hot. It would fit the bill for hell.

Max entropy is Max disorder ..sin

If disorder is associated with sin, does that mean satan is associated with the entropy of Black Holes? What would a dark morning star be? Could it be a Blazar?
 
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scientific concept's are NOT to be associated with THE BIBLE.

black hole's are associated with concept's related to the Greek "monad", English singularity. black hole's are conceptual, not actual. monadic theosophy is traced back to babylonian occultism. the big bang theory is plagiarized from satanism.

concern for black hole's is odd.

Consider that, if space and time had always existed, the universe never began. It's an illogical premise. don't get concerned with hell. it's unimportant.

Second, energy transfer is the result of heat, in the context of temperature, black hole's are conceptually not hot and they lack a surface, they are Considered a void, created by a center gravity, can you explain!?
 
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anonymous777888 said:
scientific concept's are NOT to be associated with THE BIBLE.

black hole's are associated with concept's related to the Greek "monad", English singularity. black hole's are conceptual, not actual. monadic theosophy is traced back to babylonian occultism. the big bang theory is plagiarized from satanism.

concern for black hole's is odd.

Consider that, if space and time had always existed, the universe never began. It's an illogical premise. don't get concerned with hell. it's unimportant.

Second, energy transfer is the result of heat, in the context of temperature, black hole's are conceptually not hot and they lack a surface, they are Considered a void, created by a center gravity, can you explain!?
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Job 38:7


The terms "morning stars" and "sons of God" are biblical names for angels, who express joy when events in God's plan unfold. Not only God but also angels are thrilled when a sinner repents of his worldly ways. Prayer for forgiveness brings about joyous repentance and restoration of righteousness in a person's life.



Martin G. Collins


(here)

Job 38:7 (KJV) - Forerunner Commentary
 
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Seeing as how quite a bit of the 38th chapter of Job discusses the creation of
the cosmos, then I suppose it wouldn't hurt to suggest that maybe Job 38:7
is a poetic way of referring to Gen 1:14-18.
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anonymous777888 said:
I'm not concerned with quantum mechanics, simply because it is stated, they are concept's that are not perceptible or measurable and are figment's of the imagination.
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Thanks for saving people a watch :)
 
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p_rehbein said:
(excerpt)

Job 38:7


The terms "morning stars" and "sons of God" are biblical names for angels, who express joy when events in God's plan unfold. Not only God but also angels are thrilled when a sinner repents of his worldly ways. Prayer for forgiveness brings about joyous repentance and restoration of righteousness in a person's life.



Martin G. Collins


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Job 38:7 (KJV) - Forerunner Commentary
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Wait a second, that link says something wild:

Job 38:4-7​
God originally created the earth with such perfection and beauty that the angels shouted with joy! Our Creator does all things in an organized manner and completes all His works in exquisite splendor. But the earth had somehow become formless and chaotic so that God had to refashion it before man could be created.​

WHAT?!?

Could Satan be the reason it ...went to hell?
 
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Does this open the door to soulless humans created in the version before it became formless and chaotic? Could soulless human bones survive whatever happened to earth? Could this explain evolution bones?

When this happened: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: ", was this referring to forming a pre-designed (by God) physical man with a soul this time in the refashioned earth?
 
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