Not By Works

Salvation is not based on good works, but it is based upon faithfulness. A good marriage is the picture of this. The wedding is not the end of the story. It takes fidelity and commitment and faithfulness on both sides, not just God's side.

You'd think the women here would instantly grasp this point, seeing that a wife is far more likely to remain faithful in a marriage than is the husband. But, even so, what husband or wife would ever esteem the love of the other to be a License to Cheat? And, what husband or wife would not seriously question the commitment of the other for desiring such a thing?

But, somehow, the marriage relationship between our heavenly Bridegroom and His bride is different?

If the husband got upset about his wife's infidelity, she could just remind him about OMAM and all would be hunky-dory.

The "we" here are regenerate believers and their ability to repent and forsake sin comes from God, not themselves. Thought I'd clear that up.

These verses seem to be TRUE about those who hate OSAS Believers.


Proverbs 26:28 (GWT)
28 A lying tongue hates its victims, and a flattering mouth causes ruin.

Seems to be true about those who Hate OSAS, and they want to ruin OSAS reputation, with their falsehoods.

Proverbs 6:16-19 (NIV)
16 There are six things the LORD hates, seven that are detestable to him:
17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood,
18 a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19 a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.

You almost got that one right. Actually, it is BECAUSE OF SALVATION, WE WILL WANT TO DO WHAT TO DO WHAT PLEASES HIM. You see the birth of our Human Spirit will change the Characteristics of our Human Spirit, to be Eternally ALIVE, and it will want to do what PLEASES HIM.

Why thank you very much mister Tribesman, but God is not going to do your repenting for you.

Only in and through Him, and by His power, will it be done. I think you can see that?

Oh, I see. Kind of like becoming Eternally ROBOTIC? I don't feel like a robot. Do you feel like an Eternally righteous robot? I feel like I still falter from time to time and feel the desire to repent (rather than just reminding God about my OSAS license.)

It will be done so long as we abide in the vine and don't jump out of the boat. No, I cannot see inside your head, but I love you just the same. Time for me to retire to bed. God bless all.

As for the Elect, the ones who belong to Him, Jesus says: "no man is able to pluck them out of" His hand (John 10:28-29). Sleep well.

Sorry Phoneman, but I will listen to those who make Scriptural sense to me.

Your refusal to accept that when God starts something he will complete it, and we have the seal of the spirit as our pledge of eternal life and continued insistence that God can fail, and we have conditional not eternal life because you refuse to repent and get on your knees bancrupt in spirit is why you have been seduced into phariseeism and legalism.

my God will not fail me, yours may or may not fail you, that’s what seperates us my friend

yu can hate OSAS all you want, that does not matter, what you hate are the promises of God, because inspite of osas or any other doctrine of any church God will not fail

We are to look at self, yes

but if your looking at others fruit inspecting, to see who. Ishtar be saved or not. when you should be looking to serve them not judge them, your setting Yourself up for failure

i truly believe many we think know God do not, and many we think do not do, we will be surprised when we get to heaven,

I would like some thoughts on 1 John 5:3-4...

“For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.”

Could this mean that God’s commandments are a joy and delight to the Christian? For example that when we follow Jesus we find joy in that?

Because God said he who began a good work will complete it

because God said we have been given the spirit as a seal

because God said he will never leave nor forsake us,

because god said if one of his sheep leaves he will leave the whole flock to go find that lost sheep, and the sheep hears his voice and returns,

because God said he will chasten those who are his,

because God said he has perfected forever those who are being sanctified

because god said whoever believes in him will not be put to shame

because God said whoever eats the bread from heaven will never hunger, will never die, will live forever has eternal life and his assurance he will raise them on the last day,

because God said we have been given every spiritual blessing in Christ the moment we hear the word of truth the gospel of our salvation, and entrusted our eternity to him

because God said whoever walked away in unbelief is an antichrist, and never was part of the church, if they were, they never would have left

i can go on and on and on,

if one can leave and surrender salvation and end up in hell after being born again, adopted and given the spirit, then all the things I just mentioned are lies, and God failed,

Yes he does,

but if this is required for salvation, then we are basically under law, you better get those animal sacrifices started, because Jesus died once for all, and if you cant have faith in that, all you have left is the law,

Then is is a gospel of works

God needs our help and we can earn salvation,

the cross is pretty much meaningless,

like I said, they would hate Jesus too,

he would reject their self righteousness like he rejected the pharisees

I am a man, so I would be part of that “no man” that can never pluck myself out of Jesus hands