ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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Magenta

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No thanks, I one of the few people in the world allergic to coffee.

By the way, coffee is probably one of the most toxic beverages one can drink. If I remember correctly, it's processed with over 1,000 chemicals. Would you like some coffee water with your chemicals? This is joking.

I drink water mostly. Being vegan has provided enough energy, so that I don't need energy drinks.

I had a cliff bar and cashews for breakfast.

What's for breakfast?
I am making a cheese omelet :D Ha, you would have not of that :D

I am making breakfast early today because I was too knackered last night
following our Good Friday evening church meeting to have dinner :oops:


Clif Bars are not a legitimate source of nutrition :whistle: source
 

Magenta

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Oh she’s great. Til the moment you oppose a position she holds.

Then you are a heretic, and a hypocrite, and worse! So yeah I’m good with ignoring those types of peeps. Have no Ill will toward them, but I can live without the vitriol.
Oh my. If I remember correctly, you were falsely accusing people
and I called you on it, for you were doing the very thing you were
falsely accusing others of. Yeah, YOUR hypocrisy if fine with you.
It is the truth you cannot handle being shown to you.
You call it vitriol only because it is distasteful to you.

Meanwhile you have no problem spewing your own.
 

kinda

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Oh she’s great. Til the moment you oppose a position she holds.

Then you are a heretic, and a hypocrite, and worse! So yeah I’m good with ignoring those types of peeps. Have no Ill will toward them, but I can live without the vitriol.
To each his/her own I suppose.
 

PennEd

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For those that don’t know her, Naomi Wolf is what you would call a classic liberal. But that is a dying breed. Leftists are now trying to cancel all of them. This is a good piece about her:
Naomi Wolf: Vaccine Passports Are The "End Of Human Liberty In The West"
The Left would like to dismiss Naomi Wolf as a heretic and conspiracy theorist now that she disagrees with their anti-liberty responses to coronavirus, but her warning about President Biden’s threatened “vaccine passports” should be heeded.

Wolf, who started a tech site that she says is meant to bring the right and left together, says the passport would divide people between haves and have nots: those who have had the COVID shot and those who have not. In her words, it “is literally the end of human liberty in the West if this plan unfolds as planned.”
Here’s what she means, in case you haven’t figure it out yourself.
Vaccine passports sound like a fine thing if you don’t know what those platforms can do. I’m CEO of a tech company, I understand what this platform does. It’s not about the vaccine, it’s not about the virus, it’s about data. And once this rolls out you don’t have a choice about being part of the system. What people have to understand is that any other functionality can be loaded onto that platform with no problem at all.
Wolf told Fox News host Steve Hilton that Big Tech companies will oversee all of your personal information and intermingle it with information that government will use to determine if you’re eligible to be able to travel and do anything else in polite society. President Biden signed an executive order in January to coordinate with other countries to track people to stop the spread of COVID.

Wolf says the move is nothing short of “catastrophic.”
They’re trying to roll it out around the world. It is so much more than a vaccine pass. I can’t stress this enough. It has the power to turn off your life. Or turn on your life. To let you engage in civil society or be marginalized. It’s catastrophic. It cannot be allowed to continue.

Wolf predicts that the vaccine passport would eventually track every aspect of your life.
And what that means is it can be merged with your PayPal account, with your digital currency. Microsoft is already talking about merging it with payment plans. Your networks can be sucked up. It geo locates you everywhere you go. Your credit history can be included. All of your medical history can be included.
In short, it’s not hard to imagine this passport turning into a version of China’s social credit scoring.
In China, if you do what the regime wants you to do, you are accorded points to allow more freedom of movement and other perks. In 2018 Vox reported on the expected rollout of the social credit system in 2020.
Under the system, both financial behaviors like “frivolous spending” and bad behaviors like lighting up in smoke-free zones can result in stiff consequences. Penalties include loss of employment and educational opportunities, as well as transportation restrictions. Those with high scores get perks, like discounts on utility bills and faster application processes to travel abroad.​
Mask scolds and Karens in charge of the country’s COVID response wouldn’t dare cut you off from something you love … or would they?
Such a passport would seem to finish the job that ObamaCare started.
Wolf says it would violate the U.S. Constitution, the Americans With Disabilities Act, and HIPAA.
She says opponents need to fund a phalanx of lawyers to litigate every aspect of such a thing because if we don’t it would be the “end of civil society” in the west – unless you like a caste system, that is.
 

kinda

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I am making a cheese omelet :D Ha, you would have not of that :D

I am making breakfast early today because I was too knackered last night
following our Good Friday evening church meeting to have dinner :oops:


Clif Bars are not a legitimate source of nutrition :whistle:source
lol. Cheese omelet's are definitely tasty. I will hold my tongue on my view on healthy eating.. lol

Nice, glad you had a good meeting.

I bought a new telescope and let's just say, after last night, kinda is addicted to star gazing. Absolutely amazing!

Don't let Clif here you, talk about nutrition, especially his tasty treats! lol


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kinda

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For those that don’t know her, Naomi Wolf is what you would call a classic liberal. But that is a dying breed. Leftists are now trying to cancel all of them. This is a good piece about her:
Naomi Wolf: Vaccine Passports Are The "End Of Human Liberty In The West"
The Left would like to dismiss Naomi Wolf as a heretic and conspiracy theorist now that she disagrees with their anti-liberty responses to coronavirus, but her warning about President Biden’s threatened “vaccine passports” should be heeded.

Wolf, who started a tech site that she says is meant to bring the right and left together, says the passport would divide people between haves and have nots: those who have had the COVID shot and those who have not. In her words, it “is literally the end of human liberty in the West if this plan unfolds as planned.”
Here’s what she means, in case you haven’t figure it out yourself.
Vaccine passports sound like a fine thing if you don’t know what those platforms can do. I’m CEO of a tech company, I understand what this platform does. It’s not about the vaccine, it’s not about the virus, it’s about data. And once this rolls out you don’t have a choice about being part of the system. What people have to understand is that any other functionality can be loaded onto that platform with no problem at all.
Wolf told Fox News host Steve Hilton that Big Tech companies will oversee all of your personal information and intermingle it with information that government will use to determine if you’re eligible to be able to travel and do anything else in polite society. President Biden signed an executive order in January to coordinate with other countries to track people to stop the spread of COVID.

Wolf says the move is nothing short of “catastrophic.”
They’re trying to roll it out around the world. It is so much more than a vaccine pass. I can’t stress this enough. It has the power to turn off your life. Or turn on your life. To let you engage in civil society or be marginalized. It’s catastrophic. It cannot be allowed to continue.

Wolf predicts that the vaccine passport would eventually track every aspect of your life.
And what that means is it can be merged with your PayPal account, with your digital currency. Microsoft is already talking about merging it with payment plans. Your networks can be sucked up. It geo locates you everywhere you go. Your credit history can be included. All of your medical history can be included.
In short, it’s not hard to imagine this passport turning into a version of China’s social credit scoring.
In China, if you do what the regime wants you to do, you are accorded points to allow more freedom of movement and other perks. In 2018 Vox reported on the expected rollout of the social credit system in 2020.
Under the system, both financial behaviors like “frivolous spending” and bad behaviors like lighting up in smoke-free zones can result in stiff consequences. Penalties include loss of employment and educational opportunities, as well as transportation restrictions. Those with high scores get perks, like discounts on utility bills and faster application processes to travel abroad.​
Mask scolds and Karens in charge of the country’s COVID response wouldn’t dare cut you off from something you love … or would they?
Such a passport would seem to finish the job that ObamaCare started.
Wolf says it would violate the U.S. Constitution, the Americans With Disabilities Act, and HIPAA.
She says opponents need to fund a phalanx of lawyers to litigate every aspect of such a thing because if we don’t it would be the “end of civil society” in the west – unless you like a caste system, that is.
I love Naomi Wolf. Heard her speak many times on the Alex Jones show.
 

kinda

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Oh my. If I remember correctly, you were falsely accusing people
and I called you on it, for you were doing the very thing you were
falsely accusing others of. Yeah, YOUR hypocrisy if fine with you.
It is the truth you cannot handle being shown to you.
You call it vitriol only because it is distasteful to you.

Meanwhile you have no problem spewing your own.
You two sound like you have some history together. Meow!

Some people don't get a long, not gonna disagree with that.

 

Genipher

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Oh my. If I remember correctly, you were falsely accusing people
and I called you on it, for you were doing the very thing you were
falsely accusing others of. Yeah, YOUR hypocrisy if fine with you.
It is the truth you cannot handle being shown to you.
You call it vitriol only because it is distasteful to you.

Meanwhile you have no problem spewing your own.
I assume this comment is for our benefit, since the person you're addressing has you on ignore and can't see it?

Or can he see it now that I've responded to you? 🤔
 

Magenta

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I assume this comment is for our benefit, since the person you're addressing has you on ignore and can't see it?
People peek. Who knows? Maybe some day hypocrites will see their folly.

In the meantime, assume what you will.
 

PennEd

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I assume this comment is for our benefit, since the person you're addressing has you on ignore and can't see it?

Or can he see it now that I've responded to you? 🤔
No I can’t see anything, but somehow I’m guessing it’s just more of the bitter bashing.

We all know what our moms said. The gossiping basher says more about them than the person they intend to bash.

But heck. I could be wrong and maybe the post was a swallowing of pride and apology. :unsure:
 

Genipher

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Why is it that so many attempt to imagine a scenario where people are conditioned to accept this as some kind of choice they made on their own? That is not even hinted at in the text. There is every reason to believe it will be forced upon them by a totalitarian government ruled by a dictator upon threat of death.

5 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.


I mean people are free to imagine whatever scenario they want but I reject all imaginations that don't sound like the prophecy above. And this clearly sounds like a forced upon threat of death situation. It does not sound like the antichrist will care if you have been conditioned to "accept" your feelings and opinions will not mean a hill of beans to him and his agenda.

It's like people make up their own ideas and then try to claim that the scriptures support them when they don't.

Ok, I have vented. I know it won't do any good. But I do feel better now.
Why do people imagine such scenarios? Perhaps because it would be easier for the beast system to lure people into obeying through conditioning, instead of having to "attack" a large population of stubborn "zealots"?
 
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Why do people imagine such scenarios? Perhaps because it would be easier for the beast system to lure people into obeying through conditioning, instead of having to "attack" a large population of stubborn "zealots"?
But the prophesy is clear that it is a forced scenario. No conditioning is mentioned. Worship the image or die. That is how it is going to happen. It is not going to happen a different way than what it says.

They will be forced at threat of death. Those that don't take it will be beheaded.

And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands.

So that is how it will happen. No conditioning and no one will take it accidentally not even know that it was the mark of the beast spoken about in Revelation. They will have to worship the image and if they don't they will be killed. By beheading.

So wouldn't it be like saying "that's not really true" to make up a different scenario where people accept it as healthy and good and there is no threat of death? It would be like contradicting scripture. Wouldn't it?
 

kinda

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Notice how quickly the narrative is changing from you being like Willie Wonka with a golden ticket if you’ve managed to get a vaccine, to “there are ways of us forcing you to get jabbed!”

Here’s how you can be forced to get the Covid vaccine in the U.S.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/01/can-i-be-forced-to-get-the-covid-vaccine.html

Those who don't get vaccinated, have such a wonderful future to look forward to. lol

Jesus and his followers had a similar end, why do we think we should have it any better?
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Wasn’t “mine”. It was a posted story .
Well I mean, why does someone post 'person dead of unspecified causes a period of time after receiving vaccination' in the largest possible font in a conspiracy forum in a thread claiming a certain medical injection is the mark of the beast?
There's basically only one possible conclusion to be made about your motivation for that.

All I did was use context clues and poke a little fun after perfectly obvious and reasonable deduction.


But I am our data point. I was vaccinated on the advice of my long-time physician, voluntarily, not under compulsion.
If I die from it Mrs. Post will report here with the facts after thoroughly studying out the cause.
If I am damned to hell because I took a vaccine you will know about it at the judgement.

You should be glad you have me, as first hand evidence, rather than all these crazy rumors from all kinds of sources of varying repute.
 

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Well I mean, why does someone post 'person dead of unspecified causes a period of time after receiving vaccination' in the largest possible font in a conspiracy forum in a thread claiming a certain medical injection is the mark of the beast?
There's basically only one possible conclusion to be made about your motivation for that.

All I did was use context clues and poke a little fun after perfectly obvious and reasonable deduction.


But I am our data point. I was vaccinated on the advice of my long-time physician, voluntarily, not under compulsion.
If I die from it Mrs. Post will report here with the facts after thoroughly studying out the cause.
If I am damned to hell because I took a vaccine you will know about it at the judgement.

You should be glad you have me, as first hand evidence, rather than all these crazy rumors from all kinds of sources of varying repute.
Full disclosure: I have a chronic pulmonary condition that I've been under constant treatment for over 6 years. I could die from the common flu. It's not asthma or emphysema and it's not cancer. But I am particularly susceptible to dire consequence from respiratory infection. It is in my best interest to take every precaution even concerning the common cold.

As I said Mrs. Post will fill y'all in if my tabernacle suffers ruin.
 

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Well I mean, why does someone post 'person dead of unspecified causes a period of time after receiving vaccination' in the largest possible font in a conspiracy forum in a thread claiming a certain medical injection is the mark of the beast?
How much can you get wrong in one post?

For over a year we have been besieged with 95 yr old cancer patients, that are obese with diabetes listed as Covid deaths!

Now, perfectly healthy people keel over within a short time of injecting poison, er vaccines in their system, and we gotta say "unspecified"?


Also, point to the post where I said the vaccine was the Mark of the Beast. You find it and I'll donate a $100 to your favorite charity, You don't, you have to donate $100 to mine.

Deal?

https://vaxpain.us/
 

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The Left would like to dismiss Naomi Wolf as a heretic and conspiracy theorist now that she disagrees with their anti-liberty responses to coronavirus, but her warning about President Biden’s threatened “vaccine passports” should be heeded.
At least she understands that the Democrats are no longer Democrats but autocratic Marxists and Fascists. The Democrats were never Democrats. They hate democracy, and they could only obtain their victory through ELECTION FRAUD.

But vaccine passports are the end of liberty. That's why, in my opinion, only a military coup with the goal of re-establishing democracy through free and fair elections, will address the crisis facing the USA. And all the traitors will need to be locked up for a very long time.
 

kinda

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I am mocking hysteria, not PennEd.
If he's hysterical I mock for his benefit.
I like that your reasonable, but at the same time, if you look at the world from a perspective outside of yours, the world isn't exactly very logical. I can list some inconsistancies, but this would bring up room for endless debate.

It's all perspective, it really is. If you take the mainstream view, we sound like kooks, who believe the world is about to commit mass medical genocide. If you take the "truther" or "conspiracy" view point, those who mock our view points, are in line with a death cult, new world order, and demonic forces.

The choice is yours.


I will refrain from using your method of pointing out hystria, but the mainstream media has done nothing, but create hysteria during the last two years.

I made a point in another post, about starvation is causing about 25,000 deaths a day, but it doesn't get hardly any air play, with relationship to Covid 19. What has caused more death this last year, starvation, or Covid 19? Something to think about.

3 million deaths from Covid 19, according to a quick Google search.

Almost 3 times that amount due to starvation in one year.

Drug companies can't make to much money off of fighting off starvation though, right?

https://www.un.org/en/chronicle/article/losing-25000-hunger-every-day
 
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