Should not Christians be the most sensitive and compassionate?

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EnglishChick

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I was in another Christian forum board and ended up leaving. Now am not perfect and am sure I am as capable of anyone of being harsh with others but I was appalled at the way quite non essential issues became so polarised on there?

Even a debate on masks or vaccines or flat earth could become quite nasty with those on the opposition being accused of not being real believers.

Surely as Christians we need to put aside these differences and have unity in the body? If we have Jesus as Lord and saviour we are one. Yes we can disagee, I think that's fine but am shocked how much harshness and accusation comes from believers when Jesus would not have been harsh or unkind.

Jesus didn't break a bruised reed and a of us have some degree of brokenness.
 

shittim

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Yes, as in "not be eager to argue"
 

shittim

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It has gotten far from love, Joy Peace, Patience, etc. that is required of us.
 

Subhumanoidal

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I was in another Christian forum board and ended up leaving. Now am not perfect and am sure I am as capable of anyone of being harsh with others but I was appalled at the way quite non essential issues became so polarised on there?

Even a debate on masks or vaccines or flat earth could become quite nasty with those on the opposition being accused of not being real believers.

Surely as Christians we need to put aside these differences and have unity in the body? If we have Jesus as Lord and saviour we are one. Yes we can disagee, I think that's fine but am shocked how much harshness and accusation comes from believers when Jesus would not have been harsh or unkind.

Jesus didn't break a bruised reed and a of us have some degree of brokenness.
Are you sure it wasn't this site? Because that literally sounds like this site. The BDF is notorious for this. And has ran many a people off over the years.
 

Reformed1689

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Jesus said a lot of not very nice things about the pharisees and other wicked people. the bible even calls some people whores and worse terms. Christianity isn't really about being "nice." It is however about being at peace with everyone "as much as it is up to you." That means in some cases we won't have an option that provides peace.
 

Genipher

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Are you sure it wasn't this site? Because that literally sounds like this site. The BDF is notorious for this. And has ran many a people off over the years.
BDF?
 

G00WZ

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BDF = Bible Discussion Forum, but i call it the graveyard because new users usually go in there and never come out or they end up leaving the site because of it.
 

Genipher

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BDF = Bible Discussion Forum, but i call it the graveyard because new users usually go in there and never come out or they end up leaving the site because of it.
Ah. Ok. 🙂
 
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MoonCresta

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I must admit, English Chick, that I too have noticed a certain nastiness towards one another on this forum, and it disappoints me greatly as a new member. I understand stating your viewpoint and disagreement with others, but do we have to call each other names? Not in my world. Do they do that at church - sure hope not!
 

Platosgal

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Jesus said a lot of not very nice things about the pharisees and other wicked people. the bible even calls some people whores and worse terms. Christianity isn't really about being "nice." It is however about being at peace with everyone "as much as it is up to you." That means in some cases we won't have an option that provides peace.
AMEN!!!
( and yes I yelled it 🤣)
 
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MoonCresta

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English Chick - hey - just to let you know, that if you notice someone being disrespectful to the point of creating a negative spirit in you, just 'ignore' them. Why make their venom part of your day? There are lots and lots of really good people here to chat with - technology has afforded us a way to filter out the nastiness - use it! I do!
 

Bingo

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"Welcome to the real world, and it is said, the worst has not yet been witnessed.
Numerous times I have made mention of the necessity of 'preparation'.
I believe this to be essential, pertaining to...expect the unexpected. For we know
not, the coming of the coming to be."


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Lynx

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BDF = Bible Discussion Forum, but i call it the graveyard because new users usually go in there and never come out or they end up leaving the site because of it.
Graveyard... ha! I'm gonna have to remember that one.
 

Lynx

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I was in another Christian forum board and ended up leaving. Now am not perfect and am sure I am as capable of anyone of being harsh with others but I was appalled at the way quite non essential issues became so polarised on there?

Even a debate on masks or vaccines or flat earth could become quite nasty with those on the opposition being accused of not being real believers.

Surely as Christians we need to put aside these differences and have unity in the body? If we have Jesus as Lord and saviour we are one. Yes we can disagee, I think that's fine but am shocked how much harshness and accusation comes from believers when Jesus would not have been harsh or unkind.

Jesus didn't break a bruised reed and a of us have some degree of brokenness.
Howdy EnglishChick, and welcome to the forum. Pull up a chair and help yourself to the chips and soda.

Jesus actually said some rather scathing comments... about the people who were trying to find fault with him. But Jesus didn't make a habit of going around picking fights, even verbal ones. He was just very effective at shutting down the people who were following him around trying to find a flaw in him.

As others commented, what you described in another Christian forum board sounds just like our own Bible Discussion Forum. It was supposed to be a place to talk about deep theological questions, but it devolved into a place for people to prove how much more holy they are than everybody else and call each other "not a REAL Christian" a lot. I recommend avoiding it.

We occasionally get some leakage from BDF into the other forums. Right now you can find evidence of it in any thread with "Vaccine," "Mask" or "Immunization" in the title. I recommend avoiding those too, if you happen to see them.

Whether you're single or married, you might want to check out the Singles forum. It was started for single people, but it and Miscellaneous have become the two default forums for people to chill and chat with each other.

Again, welcome to the forum. I hope you find the conversations... well, MOST of them anyway (cough-vaccine-cough)... entertaining and enlightening.
 

EnglishChick

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Howdy EnglishChick, and welcome to the forum. Pull up a chair and help yourself to the chips and soda.

Jesus actually said some rather scathing comments... about the people who were trying to find fault with him. But Jesus didn't make a habit of going around picking fights, even verbal ones. He was just very effective at shutting down the people who were following him around trying to find a flaw in him.

As others commented, what you described in another Christian forum board sounds just like our own Bible Discussion Forum. It was supposed to be a place to talk about deep theological questions, but it devolved into a place for people to prove how much more holy they are than everybody else and call each other "not a REAL Christian" a lot. I recommend avoiding it.

We occasionally get some leakage from BDF into the other forums. Right now you can find evidence of it in any thread with "Vaccine," "Mask" or "Immunization" in the title. I recommend avoiding those too, if you happen to see them.

Whether you're single or married, you might want to check out the Singles forum. It was started for single people, but it and Miscellaneous have become the two default forums for people to chill and chat with each other.

Again, welcome to the forum. I hope you find the conversations... well, MOST of them anyway (cough-vaccine-cough)... entertaining and enlightening.
Thanks so much and may God bless you abundantly
 

EnglishChick

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AMEN!!!
( and yes I yelled it 🤣)
We can choose not to interact with those who are being negative though . Not out of anger but from making sure their negative energy doesn't disturb our own peace.

I choose the people I have in my life. If they add nothing positive then I don't interact.
 

EnglishChick

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Jesus said a lot of not very nice things about the pharisees and other wicked people. the bible even calls some people whores and worse terms. Christianity isn't really about being "nice." It is however about being at peace with everyone "as much as it is up to you." That means in some cases we won't have an option that provides peace.
yes but God.isn't like that towards us, His people. He is gentle with us?
 

Reformed1689

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yes but God.isn't like that towards us, His people. He is gentle with us?
God's interactions with his people vary and are not static. Sometimes he chastises and disciplines us. Discipline by its very nature is generally not gentle. Look at how he chastise the Israelites by putting them under the yoke of foreign nations. That's not very gentle.

Hebrews 12:6
For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives.”


Revelations 3:19
Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent.



Although discipline from God isn't always experienced by as as "nice" and "gentle" it is done so because of the love God has for his people.


Hebrews 12:11
For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
 

EnglishChick

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God's interactions with his people vary and are not static. Sometimes he chastises and disciplines us. Discipline by its very nature is generally not gentle. Look at how he chastise the Israelites by putting them under the yoke of foreign nations. That's not very gentle.

Hebrews 12:6
For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives.”


Revelations 3:19
Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent.



Although discipline from God isn't always experienced by as as "nice" and "gentle" it is done so because of the love God has for his people.


Hebrews 12:11
For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
He does discipline but he is never unkind or abusive. He doesn't make us despairing or.feeling hopeless.because in Christ there is always hope and freedom
 

Reformed1689

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God's interactions with his people vary and are not static. Sometimes he chastises and disciplines us. Discipline by its very nature is generally not gentle. Look at how he chastise the Israelites by putting them under the yoke of foreign nations. That's not very gentle.

Hebrews 12:6
For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives.”


Revelations 3:19
Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent.



Although discipline from God isn't always experienced by as as "nice" and "gentle" it is done so because of the love God has for his people.


Hebrews 12:11
For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
My mother loves me. You know how I know? When my brothers and I lived on the family farm and were about 8 to 10 years old we liked to ride our bikes around the farm. The problem with bike tires is they don't ride well through tall grass where cattle graze. We really liked riding our bikes on a road made from crushed limestone which when dry was like driving on pavement. The problem is we lived on a main road for trucks traveling from the edge of the county hauling grain to the CO-OP elevator. We would use the road to ride our bikes in a circle and cross a creek that was between the house and the barn in the summer when it was dry.


See the route I attached. My mother would catch us sometimes on the road when she came home from work. She proved she loved me because she understood the danger of the trucks coming down the hill by the barn being too heavy to stop for a dumb kid in a huffy bicycle. She spanked us. Rightly so. It took about two or three disciplinary moments and my father getting involved, but we stopped. As an adult now, who is married and looking at the possibility of raising children I think about and remember moments like this. It's the same in our relationship with God.

I got in trouble at work for some things I did and said. I'm not happy about it, especially because it hurt my career. Some of what I got in trouble for a person shouldn't get in trouble for, but I know that the majority of it I deserved what I got and probably a lot more. When I think about that in hindsight I have a better perspective than I did when it first occurred. Initially I was angry and resistant. As time passed I came to realize that God was the one who caused me to "get in trouble" because he is sovereign and ordained it as such that those who are my superiors would make the decisions they did. Why? He loves me, and is jealous for his name. He disciplined me. He inflicted some measure of pain, because in the end it is most glorifying to him and make me more righteous.


We are not one-dimensional creatures. Although God is no creature, we shouldn't expect him to be one-dimensional either. I think that's where threads and topics like this become problematic is because they are rooted in the expectation that Christians are supposed to be one-dimensional. We're supposed to be super-nice™ ultra-sensitive® goody-two-shoes© Christians. The world wants us to be non-confrontational, non-conflictual, and afraid of upsetting others. This is because the world is at war with God and doesn't want to even hear his name. Jesus wasn't non-confrontational or non-conflictual. His initial interactions with the Pharisees had some measure of grace and forbearance toward them. That sure changes as they expose their wickedness, doesn't it?

Tying this all back to the topic of the thread. Sometimes as Christians we have to swallow our fears and accept that when we speak the truth people will be angry, and the people who will attack us the most will be other people who claim to be Christian that are afraid of what the crowds at Golgotha or outside the palace of Pontius Pilate will think of them.


Christians should be the most sensitive and compassionate people. We should be the most sensitive to one another's needs and how we can serve one another. We should be most compassionate by coming to the aid of our brethren and carrying the loads they bear with them even if for a short while. We shouldn't be cowards who hide behind social expectations of a godless world that tells Christians they "aren't nice" when really what they mean is "will you just shut up about that God stuff."
 

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