In the beginning something virtual happened

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Blackpowderduelist

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Carnal knowledge science can't describe "virtual" because it is describing the spiritual.
Science is humanism, self worship. The idea that man is the ultimate power and source of the universe, that we may know everything, and make it in our image. Like all other pagan religions mixes some facts and truthes in with many falsehoods.
 

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Interesting, so I'm pointing to Christ ..but that isn't good enough.
You occasionally point to Christ with a mind and mouth fixated on attempting to prove by scientific means, theories, and vain philosophies, the existence of God in order to, as you say, wake millions of people... whereas faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
 
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You occasionally point to Christ with a mind and mouth fixated on attempting to prove by scientific means, theories, and vain philosophies, the existence of God in order to, as you say, wake millions of people... whereas faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
Do you think God frowns on any possible way to get people to consider The Word?
 

Magenta

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Do you think God frowns on any possible way to get people to consider The Word?
How is the Word considered when it is scientific means, theories, and vain philosophies being put forth?

Do you believe that scientific means, theories, and vain philosophies
are going to convict someone of their sin, and need of God?


It does seem that you do :oops:

And wake millions. Your words.
 
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Step one ..get people to realize this reality isn't what they thought.

Step two ..show them how God is involved.

Step three ..show them how to get their sins added to The Cross.
 
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pablocito

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Virtualization and Simulation only exist in the inventive imagination of man's mind and manifested through his computer toys but we all know that the underlying reality (rather deception) of those toys are just a bunch of 1's and 0's.
Calling a spade a spade, we know that in the real world there is good, better, best. We humans are at our worst but some of us will one day ( very soon) graduate to better than best.
 

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Carnal knowledge science can't describe "virtual" because it is describing the spiritual.
Spiritual is not virtual. Spiritual is super-hyper real because it is eternal everlasting. Your mind is traveling in a completely wrong direction.
 
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Spiritual is not virtual. Spiritual is super-hyper real because it is eternal everlasting. Your mind is traveling in a completely wrong direction.
This fallen reality is an illusion ..but to us interacting in it ..Heaven looks virtual.
 
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Step one ..get people to realize this reality isn't what they thought.
With science now realigning itself with quantum theory it is fast becoming common knowledge that this reality is not what it seems

Step two ..show them how God is involved.
The science world can not answer the questions of reality so it is to ancient books we turn to for answers, and there we find god

Step three ..show them how to get their sins added to The Cross.
The journey to Christ is often a personal one
 
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Time, Light and Spirits originate from the Universal Wave (God).

Time has states. Virtual Time in superposition is all possible paths of causality from the EM vector field.

Position is scalar. Momentum is vector/virtual.

Uncertainty allows virtual/vector quantities to function from multiple paths.

Fallen/Scalar Time is what causes age, decay, and death. It is when something has finite paths.

Wave-particle duality is all about possible paths.

The core is virtual ..it is harder to say classical/scalar is. String Theory is about vibration ..sound vibrates ..God's Word is everything.
 
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This reality isn't virtual at our scale ..but our mind | perception | consciousness | spirit is
 

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God doesn’t allow carnal minds to find Him. That means scientific evidence. We are in a morality test.
but He says everyone is without excuse because His invisible qualities are clearly seen by what has been made -- by the details of creation. which means scientific evidence ((taking the common definition of 'scientific' to mean having to do with the physical universe, i.e. the things which have been been made))
 

posthuman

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reality = physical + spiritual/virtual

carnal can only see the physical
ironically, since the mind is not physical.
i can't get my brain to do what i want it to do.


but those non-physical souls that reject Him, He gives over to a depraved mind, that doesn't even comprehend what it, itself is.
 

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The Big Bang is generated history to match whatever He designed. That would mean the origin is simply a virtual starting point. It’s why quantum effects work. The core of our reality is virtual including the Vector Field and Quantum Fields ..even TIME is virtual. Oh, and Math.

God doesn’t allow carnal minds to find Him. That means scientific evidence. We are in a morality test.
Look into a man by the name of
Kurt Godel - and his theory of Incompleteness - Incompleteness is in all science and human perception - you might enjoy his ideas
Best friend of Einstein btw
 

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reality = physical + spiritual/virtual

carnal can only see the physical
Another way to put it is there are other dimensions. They possibly exist outside of time because time must have matter to exist. Cherubs and serifs (angels) are in another dimension invisible to us but can interact with us. There is a heavenly realm right here on earth where the real power lies. How this all works is beyond our finite minds.

Col. 2:9-10,15 "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it."

Like you stated earlier: God will not let Himself be proven, scientifically. We must have faith to please God. Faith is believing without seeing. Christ with faith is the only door to eternal life.