Why did John the babtist started baptising?
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Its like going around in circles really. But no matter how you look at it, you still have to be obedient to God's instructions. Otherwise there would be no different between Christians and unsaved, and I do believe God want us to be different. Thats why He says love not the world and the things there in.
We need to find away to harmonise the doctrine of grace alone for salvation, and living a pleasing life unto God. But i find that gace by faith alone is always emphasised, but not what comes after we are saved.
We need to find away to harmonise the doctrine of grace alone for salvation, and living a pleasing life unto God. But i find that gace by faith alone is always emphasised, but not what comes after we are saved.
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Inorder to be saved you have to repent. No one is saved unless they repent.
When you truly repent your behaviour will start to change gradually.
So a Christian will have works.
The way you are putting it is to say, somone can be saved and not have any works because salvation is not apart of works. And this is contrary to Jesus words. He says whoever abide in Him bears much fruit, and by their fruit you shall know them.
When you truly repent your behaviour will start to change gradually.
So a Christian will have works.
The way you are putting it is to say, somone can be saved and not have any works because salvation is not apart of works. And this is contrary to Jesus words. He says whoever abide in Him bears much fruit, and by their fruit you shall know them.
Jesus Christ even asked the Pharisees at one point 'What do you say of John's baptism: is it from God or from men?' and the Pharisees said among them 'If we say it is from God, than he'll ask why didn't we believe him? and if we say it is from men, we attract towards ourselves the fury of the people because they hold John in high position, they consider him a prophet.'
You can find it in Matthew 21:25
I agree with GiveThanks about the importance of water baptsim: unless one gets born from water and Spirit, he can't enter the kingdom of God.
You can find it in Matthew 21:25
I agree with GiveThanks about the importance of water baptsim: unless one gets born from water and Spirit, he can't enter the kingdom of God.
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I believe in both a physical and spiritual kingdom. The physical being the Church on earth ('the fighting church), the spiritual being the Church on Heaven (the triumphant Church).
I don't think differently than the Holy Fathers of the Church.
In order to not deviate this thread from its initial question ('John's water baptism prior to the Christian one'), I invite you to read the Nicene Creed. There, you'll find expressed the Christian faith (to which I subscribe; edit: and which I confess).
I don't think differently than the Holy Fathers of the Church.
In order to not deviate this thread from its initial question ('John's water baptism prior to the Christian one'), I invite you to read the Nicene Creed. There, you'll find expressed the Christian faith (to which I subscribe; edit: and which I confess).