Why do people hate the Jews?

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TheIndianGirl

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Why do people hate jews? It basically comes down to this:

Despite being a small minority, they consistently work their way into positions of power in whatever country they happen to settle in. Once they start to wield control, they use that power to promote their own interests, which are often at odds with the interests of their host country. This creates a lot of animosity. The people of the host country eventual say "enough". That's why they've been kicked out of one place after another for thousands of years. It's didn't start with the Nazi's. Not by a long shot.

Here's what Martin Luther had to say about jews:
"What shall we Christians do with this rejected and condemned people, the Jews? Since they live among us, we dare not tolerate their conduct now that we are aware of their lying and reviling and blaspheming. If we do, we become sharers in their lies, cursing and blasphemy. Thus, we cannot extinguish the unquenchable fire of divine wrath, of which the prophets speak, nor can we convert the Jews. With prayer and the fear of God we must practice a sharp mercy to see whether we might save at least a few from the glowing flames. We dare not avenge ourselves. Vengeance a thousand times worse than we could wish them already has them by the throat. I shall give you my sincere advice:

First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians, and do not condone or knowingly tolerate such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of his Son and of his Christians. For whatever we tolerated in the past unknowingly and I myself was unaware of it will be pardoned by God. But if we, now that we are informed, were to protect and shield such a house for the Jews, existing right before our very nose, in which they lie about, blaspheme, curse, vilify, and defame Christ and us (as was heard above), it would be the same as if we were doing all this and even worse ourselves, as we very well know.

Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. For they pursue in them the same aims as in their synagogues. Instead they might be lodged under a roof or in a barn, like the gypsies. This will bring home to them that they are not masters in our country, as they boast, but that they are living in exile and in captivity, as they incessantly wail and lament about us before God.

Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them. (remainder omitted)

Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb. For they have justly forfeited the right to such an office by holding the poor Jews captive with the saying of Moses (Deuteronomy 17 [:10 ff.]) in which he commands them to obey their teachers on penalty of death, although Moses clearly adds: “what they teach you in accord with the law of the Lord.” Those villains ignore that. They wantonly employ the poor people’s obedience contrary to the law of the Lord and infuse them with this poison, cursing, and blasphemy. In the same way the pope also held us captive with the declaration in Matthew 16 {:18], “You are Peter,” etc., inducing us to believe all the lies and deceptions that issued from his devilish mind. He did not teach in accord with the word of God, and therefore he forfeited the right to teach.

Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside, since they are not lords, officials, tradesmen, or the like. Let they stay at home. (...remainder omitted).

Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them and put aside for safekeeping. The reason for such a measure is that, as said above, they have no other means of earning a livelihood than usury, and by it they have stolen and robbed from us all they possess. Such money should now be used in no other way than the following: Whenever a Jew is sincerely converted, he should be handed one hundred, two hundred, or three hundred florins, as personal circumstances may suggest. With this he could set himself up in some occupation for the support of his poor wife and children, and the maintenance of the old or feeble. For such evil gains are cursed if they are not put to use with God’s blessing in a good and worthy cause.

Seventh, I commend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow, as was imposed on the children of Adam (Gen 3[:19]}. For it is not fitting that they should let us accursed Goyim toil in the sweat of our faces while they, the holy people, idle away their time behind the stove, feasting and farting, and on top of all, boasting blasphemously of their lordship over the Christians by means of our sweat. No, one should toss out these lazy rogues by the seat of their pants."

- The Jews and Their Lies.
Martin Luther
1543
Hate to say it but Martin Luther sounds like a Nazi (see the parts I bolded).
 

JaumeJ

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Hahaha, the Indian Girl sister is merely making a comparison. Allow people to express as they are given to do so, otherwise you are judging in a most unprofitable manner.
 

shittim

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That is where they got a lot of their justification for their hate against the chosen ones.
 

Lynx

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I think people think Jews are lazy, because they tend not to work on Saturdays. But this is just their religion, and they do work on Sundays instead. But then the same people think the Jews are sacrilegious, for profaning a holy day.

Also, the whole circumcision thing. I mean, everybody does it, but normal people have it done quietly in a hospital with a doctor and anesthetic. Jews turn it into a celebration and make it into a big show, and people get jealous that the Jew got a party and all the attention whilst most others would be lucky to get a lollypop and a "shush, shush, don't cry baby". Even this would probably be tolerable, but then to add insult to injury, Jews are often caught wearing those yarmulkes about the place. It just confuses people, and people can't figure out whether the Jews love silly hats on their heads - or abhor them.

I think the thing that tips most people over the edge though, is bacon. Jews don't eat bacon, because they claim it comes from pigs. However, when making this claim, most Jews have never tasted how good bacon is. For anyone who has tasted bacon, it is almost a certainty that someone who calls such delicious food unclean just cannot be trusted about anything.

If Jews would just learn to work on Saturdays, circumcise more quietly and enjoy a BLC toastie with the rest of us, I think this would go a long way to stopping the hatred.
Brilliant comedy piece, especially the line about confusion on whether they like hats on their heads or not. (Slightly risque, that line, but still genius comedy.)
 

Mem

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Brilliant comedy piece, especially the line about confusion on whether they like hats on their heads or not. (Slightly risque, that line, but still genius comedy.)
Haaa! Thanks for bringing it forward. Otherwise, I would've totally missed it :giggle:
 

Evmur

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The Jews have promises made to them that are still outstanding ... if the devil could destroy the Jews it would prove that God is a liar and is not able to fulfil His word. Grizzly thought.

Hitler's 3rd reich was to last a 1, 000 years
Napoleon's empire was to last 1, 000 years
The Roman empire was to last 1, 000 years

... get the idea?
 

TheLearner

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It is the same reason some people hate Christians. The Jewish People are/were God's chosen people in the Old Testament / Hebrew Scriptures. People in the world, darkness want to avoid the light.
 
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MoonCresta

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We must be reading/have read different books; mine is called the Bible. What is yours called?
Uh, the Bible - Jericho, basically anyone that stood in their way in the land of Canaan?

Uh ...... yea.
 
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MoonCresta

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I think people think Jews are lazy, because they tend not to work on Saturdays. But this is just their religion, and they do work on Sundays instead. But then the same people think the Jews are sacrilegious, for profaning a holy day.

Also, the whole circumcision thing. I mean, everybody does it, but normal people have it done quietly in a hospital with a doctor and anesthetic. Jews turn it into a celebration and make it into a big show, and people get jealous that the Jew got a party and all the attention whilst most others would be lucky to get a lollypop and a "shush, shush, don't cry baby". Even this would probably be tolerable, but then to add insult to injury, Jews are often caught wearing those yarmulkes about the place. It just confuses people, and people can't figure out whether the Jews love silly hats on their heads - or abhor them.

I think the thing that tips most people over the edge though, is bacon. Jews don't eat bacon, because they claim it comes from pigs. However, when making this claim, most Jews have never tasted how good bacon is. For anyone who has tasted bacon, it is almost a certainty that someone who calls such delicious food unclean just cannot be trusted about anything.

If Jews would just learn to work on Saturdays, circumcise more quietly and enjoy a BLC toastie with the rest of us, I think this would go a long way to stopping the hatred.
Great kidding around!
 
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MoonCresta

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It is the same reason some people hate Christians. The Jewish People are/were God's chosen people in the Old Testament / Hebrew Scriptures. People in the world, darkness want to avoid the light.
There - I think you're on to something!
 

EmilyNats

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The jews do tend to be a prejudiced bunch. And that is coming from a conservative Trump supporter who believes that racism and such are way blown out of proportion by today's society. It's a fact that they do tend to hire only other jews in a lot of the small business settings and look down on other races - and again, I say that from personal experience. So I could see where some people would get offended because of that. However, I think the real reason is that they are God's chosen people, and so of course the devil hates them and would want to turn as many as he can against them.
 

Lanolin

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Uh, the Bible - Jericho, basically anyone that stood in their way in the land of Canaan?

Uh ...... yea.
baiscally they gave as good as they got but I recall the Israelites marched around the walls of Jericho, praising God and the walls came crashing down. They didnt actually have to attack.

also note that Israelites are not the same as Jews. Jews are a subset (tribe) of the israelites who were generally regareded as the rulers/royal lineage as they were alloted Jerusalem and the temple was there.
 

Lanolin

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The jews do tend to be a prejudiced bunch. And that is coming from a conservative Trump supporter who believes that racism and such are way blown out of proportion by today's society. It's a fact that they do tend to hire only other jews in a lot of the small business settings and look down on other races - and again, I say that from personal experience. So I could see where some people would get offended because of that. However, I think the real reason is that they are God's chosen people, and so of course the devil hates them and would want to turn as many as he can against them.
think a lot of people do this (have prejudices, hire only people like themselves) not just the jewish people.

of course some people also think they are 'chosen ones' even when they are not Jewish. calvinists for example.
 
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TheIndianGirl

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Jews believe they are special because God told them that they are the chosen people, so it makes sense when they do in fact behave like they are the chosen ones (such as, taking pride in their traditions/celebrations, trusting only other Jews, etc.). They do have a reason to distrust others based on history, and they have been/felt oppressed by others through the centuries.
 
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TheIndianGirl

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The jews do tend to be a prejudiced bunch. And that is coming from a conservative Trump supporter who believes that racism and such are way blown out of proportion by today's society. It's a fact that they do tend to hire only other jews in a lot of the small business settings and look down on other races - and again, I say that from personal experience. So I could see where some people would get offended because of that. However, I think the real reason is that they are God's chosen people, and so of course the devil hates them and would want to turn as many as he can against them.
Jews have a blatant disregard/dislike for Christianity (based on personal observations), and sometimes this can feel personal although I'm sure this is not intended. I'm sure they feel the same way about Christians (about Christians only shopping at Christian-owned stores, having only Christian friends, etc.).
 

shittim

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Of course we people hire in our own image and shop and dwell with our own who we understand and fellowship with. As an American I don't drive 30 miles to shop at an ethnic grocery store nor wear clothes of another land, God created us and is delighted in our diversity as He told us to be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth.
 

Moses_Young

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Brilliant comedy piece, especially the line about confusion on whether they like hats on their heads or not. (Slightly risque, that line, but still genius comedy.)
Thanks, and sorry if risque or offensive. It was not intended to be, and in case not obvious, I don't hate Jews. Just trying to add some humour to what in actuality is a sad subject - that people are hated for the colour of their skin, or their religion (not only Jews, but Muslims, and definitely Christians in more and more countries).
 
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MoonCresta

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Jews have a blatant disregard/dislike for Christianity (based on personal observations), and sometimes this can feel personal although I'm sure this is not intended. I'm sure they feel the same way about Christians (about Christians only shopping at Christian-owned stores, having only Christian friends, etc.).
I can't see getting offended because they may hire a disproportionately higher percentage of jews. So what? It's their business. I'm not that petty.
 
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I can't see getting offended because they may hire a disproportionately higher percentage of jews. So what? It's their business. I'm not that petty.
It's not about being petty. There are real affects. Did you ever wonder why CNN is so leftwing?
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If white people do what jews do (purposely hire whites because they are fellow whites, they we will get sued. In fact laws were created (partly by jews) in order to keep whites from doing exactly that. But jews...somehow...seem to get around those laws. This is one thing that creates animosity. Jews jump back and forth from being "white" to "jewish" depending on their purpose at the moment. Here's one way it works:
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