Fourth Charismatic Wave (of the Spirit)?

Whether if there is a 4th Wave or not, I am willing to bet there is coming a point where the core Members of the Body of Christ are going to become more outspoken against these false teachers. But when I think of false teachers, it's not just the seeker movements, the Denomination against Denomination Doctrines, but the Body of Christ is going to run out the Homosexual and Same Sex Ministers that for the past 15 years have infiltrated Denominations like Baptist/Wesleyan/Methodist/Presbyterian, Church of Christ, and many other offshoots.

And when this happens, that will bring the Core Body of Christ closer to being unified no matter your Denomination. And it's a very good chance there will be a release that brings Revival or a quick Movement. I believe the Church Body as it sits now has literally been thwarting God from Moving like we read Him doing in our Bibles. And when we come together to root out the falseness that's leading many Churches currently, it will allow God to pour out His Spirit upon ALL FLESH!

AandW, every time someone quotes this verse as evidence of a great end-times revival I'm utterly amazed. The scripture is from Acts 2:16-7:

"But this [referring to the Holy Spirits' outpouring on the Day of Pentecost] is what was uttered through the prophet Joel:

that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh. . .' "

So if he's referring to something that happened on Pentecost, how can it refer to an end-time revival. Can you explain this to me?

Because the Day of Pentecost does not represent the End of Times., it was the beginning of the Movement of the Holy Spirit. That was 2,000 years ago and God still has not returned. Logic states we're in the End Times and what happened on the Day of Pentecost is still happening now. I totally believe Peter thought Christ's Return was going to be soon. I doubt very much he thought it would be another 2,000+ years. But here we are. We know better than Peter. We know that we are closer ever to the Second Coming of Christ than Peter ever was. We know that puts us closer to the End Times than Peter ever was. So that Verse is more for us than it ever was for Peter's day.

Okay, but you completely ignored my real question. When the Holy Spirit was poured out on the Day of Pentecost, Peter said "this is that." He said this is it folks. This is what was prophesied by Joel for the last days. He doesn't say this is a foreshadowing of a future revival. No, he says "this is it!"

Why do people always try to twist this into some future outpouring when that's not what the text says?

Was it poured out upon ALL Flesh?

Yes! It was. Just read ahead to verses 38-39:

"And Peter said to them, 'Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.' "

What promise is he talking about. The Holy Spirit, of course. Maybe it wasn't poured out on every single person at that time, but it was available to all who call upon the name of the Lord. That's why Peter said, "this is that."

Are there any other scriptures besides this one that says every single person on the planet will receive the baptism of the Spirit?

Yes! It was. Just read ahead to verses 38-39:

"And Peter said to them, 'Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.' "

What promise is he talking about. The Holy Spirit, of course. Maybe it wasn't poured out on every single person at that time, but it was available to all who call upon the name of the Lord. That's why Peter said, "this is that."

Are there any other scriptures besides this one that says every single person on the planet will receive the baptism of the Spirit?

So you believe the Holy Spirit was poured out upon All Flesh in that very moment and to even someone who this very day might accept the Lord as their Savior?

Yes, I believe it because that's what Peter said (this is that). It wasn't literally poured out on all flesh then and there, but it means the time had come when the Holy Spirit would be available to all who called on the name of the Lord. Previously it had only been available to prophets and others who had a special anointing.

I do believe verses 19-20 refer to a time in the future just before the Lord returns. That much seems obvious from other scriptures. So the prophecy has two parts. The first part clearly refers to the Day of Pentecost. But 19-20 refer to a time in the future.

Have you been able to come up with any other scriptures that point to the Spirit being poured out on ALL flesh in the future?

Okay, but you completely ignored my real question. When the Holy Spirit was poured out on the Day of Pentecost, Peter said "this is that." He said this is it folks. This is what was prophesied by Joel for the last days. He doesn't say this is a foreshadowing of a future revival. No, he says "this is it!"

Why do people always try to twist this into some future outpouring when that's not what the text says?

Yeah.. I remember attending a lot of charismatic and pentecostal services, and they all followed a very similar template.

Worship in song heavily based on experience and emotion that would go for a large portion of the time.

A message based similarly on experiences and emotion, emphasizing 'moving in the Spirit', with little scripture emphasis.

A call to come up and be healed and/or saved, emphasizing again spiritual experiences and physical manifestations.

Ending with a long period again on worship in song, emphasizing asking for things from God, rather than thanking God for what they have already.

This format getting copied and pasted over and over since the 70s.

The good thing is that there is freedom of expression of worship.. which can be a great thing like with David worshipping thru music and psalms.

So dont want to throw out baby with bath water..

But where is the emphasis on Christ as number 1 and grounding in scripture?

Yes! It was. Just read ahead to verses 38-39:

"And Peter said to them, 'Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.' "

What promise is he talking about. The Holy Spirit, of course. Maybe it wasn't poured out on every single person at that time, but it was available to all who call upon the name of the Lord. That's why Peter said, "this is that."

Are there any other scriptures besides this one that says every single person on the planet will receive the baptism of the Spirit?

It say the Holy Spirit will be poured out upon all flesh but it doesn't say all will be baptized in Him e.g He was poured out upon Simon Magus but the outcome for him was not good.

So, do you believe if the Event of the Day of Pentecost represents the Moment when the outpouring of the Holy Spirit upon All Flesh began, do you believe that period is over [the Spirit of God is no longer being poured upon All Flesh]?