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Gideon300

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The state of Victoria was enjoying relief from lockdowns. Three men, who knowingly had the virus, did a road trip from NSW, through Victoria to South Australia. That is a very long way and they stopped to refuel, eat and rest. They were permitted to take the trip because they are removalists. So they visited some homes as well.

As a result, COVID has taken off again and once more we are in lockdown. The men were obviously well enough to work. Presumably they thought the symptoms insignificant so they ignored them. The problem is that not everyone reacts the same way. The mother of one of the men contracted COVID and has died of it. Obviously the men had their reasons which will come out in court. In the mean time, people are suffering needlessly. Yes, most people recover from COVID. I wonder if people would be so blase if it was their parents who died from it.
 
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The state of Victoria was enjoying relief from lockdowns. Three men, who knowingly had the virus, did a road trip from NSW, through Victoria to South Australia. That is a very long way and they stopped to refuel, eat and rest. They were permitted to take the trip because they are removalists. So they visited some homes as well.

As a result, COVID has taken off again and once more we are in lockdown. The men were obviously well enough to work. Presumably they thought the symptoms insignificant so they ignored them. The problem is that not everyone reacts the same way. The mother of one of the men contracted COVID and has died of it. Obviously the men had their reasons which will come out in court. In the mean time, people are suffering needlessly. Yes, most people recover from COVID. I wonder if people would be so blase if it was their parents who died from it.
Do you know if the three men were vaccinated? The right thing to do, knowing they had COVID, was to stay away from people.
 

iamsoandso

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Do you know if the three men were vaccinated? The right thing to do, knowing they had COVID, was to stay away from people.

Yep Leviticus 13,14 ect.ect. if your sick separate yourself from the camp for a while then present yourself to the priest but no one sees to do this anymore when thees an illness...
 
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The state of Victoria was enjoying relief from lockdowns. Three men, who knowingly had the virus, did a road trip from NSW, through Victoria to South Australia. That is a very long way and they stopped to refuel, eat and rest. They were permitted to take the trip because they are removalists. So they visited some homes as well.

As a result, COVID has taken off again and once more we are in lockdown. The men were obviously well enough to work. Presumably they thought the symptoms insignificant so they ignored them. The problem is that not everyone reacts the same way. The mother of one of the men contracted COVID and has died of it. Obviously the men had their reasons which will come out in court. In the mean time, people are suffering needlessly. Yes, most people recover from COVID. I wonder if people would be so blase if it was their parents who died from it.
That's sad to hear, I hope they get well soon. Did you know that covid-19 is not dissimilar enough to be much different from coronavirus variants that have spawned over many centuries?

People already have varying degrees of herd immunity. The mystery as to why some people are asymptomatic, have a mild reaction, or a severe reaction is explained by pre-existing herd immunity.

The media hype, dramatization, and over-the-top rhetoric about covid-19 is for the purpose of control and money.

You may be wondering why the media never told you this, why they punish prominent influences who break lockstep with the covid-19 narrative, and the extreme reaction unvaccinated people spreading covid-19.

The vaccine, masks, and physical distancing are all about changing the world. It's all about money and control.
 

Nehemiah6

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The virus is real
No. The virus is a chimera. Big difference. The truth is that no one has ever isolated coronavirus -- AS A VIRUS - in the lab. Research has shown that it is a chimera -- genes spliced from different viruses to make a bio-weapon in the laboratory. The public health officials and the media tried to suppress this information for a very long time, but now everyone knows that coronavirus was released from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And that is exactly why there is only spike protein mRNA in the so-called vaccines. Here is the evidence that what we have is a chimera:

'In the preprint paper “Wuhan nCoV-2019 SARS Coronaviruses Genomics Fractal Metastructures Evolution and Origins,” Jean-Claude Perez, Ph.D., a retired interdisciplinary researcher with the IBM European Research Center on Artificial Intelligence, claims to provide “formal proof that 2019-nCoV coronavirus is partially a synthetic genome.”

According to Perez, the presence of HIV1 retrovirus fragments is evidence of SARS-CoV-2’s artificial nature. I’ve also written many other articles detailing evidence suggesting SARS-CoV-2 might be a laboratory creation.'

https://truthunmuted.org/the-search-for-sars-cov-2s-origin-must-continue/

So what is happening inside people who were given the bogus vaccines is that spike proteins are being replicated and causing the same people to get sick. Add to that the numerous and serious adverse effects and deaths, and you must fairly conclude that natural immunity is FAR SAFER than taking any bogus vaccine.

Furthermore, while we read about all these infections and deaths, we never read about the immediate administration of the HCQ combo pack or ivermectin. Why are public health authorities and the medical establishment still refusing to do what is right and to tell the whole world to stop fearing the "scariants" and make sure they all have there drugs handy? That is sufficient proof that there is a nefarious agenda behind this scam.
 

Gideon300

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Do you know if the three men were vaccinated? The right thing to do, knowing they had COVID, was to stay away from people.
They were not vaccinated. Legally, they should have been in quarantine. They will face court. Two of them will have to live with the death of their mother. I don't know if she passed it to her sons or vice versa. It's tragic either way.
 

Gideon300

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No. The virus is a chimera. Big difference. The truth is that no one has ever isolated coronavirus -- AS A VIRUS - in the lab. Research has shown that it is a chimera -- genes spliced from different viruses to make a bio-weapon in the laboratory. The public health officials and the media tried to suppress this information for a very long time, but now everyone knows that coronavirus was released from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And that is exactly why there is only spike protein mRNA in the so-called vaccines. Here is the evidence that what we have is a chimera:

'In the preprint paper “Wuhan nCoV-2019 SARS Coronaviruses Genomics Fractal Metastructures Evolution and Origins,” Jean-Claude Perez, Ph.D., a retired interdisciplinary researcher with the IBM European Research Center on Artificial Intelligence, claims to provide “formal proof that 2019-nCoV coronavirus is partially a synthetic genome.”

According to Perez, the presence of HIV1 retrovirus fragments is evidence of SARS-CoV-2’s artificial nature. I’ve also written many other articles detailing evidence suggesting SARS-CoV-2 might be a laboratory creation.'
https://truthunmuted.org/the-search-for-sars-cov-2s-origin-must-continue/

So what is happening inside people who were given the bogus vaccines is that spike proteins are being replicated and causing the same people to get sick. Add to that the numerous and serious adverse effects and deaths, and you must fairly conclude that natural immunity is FAR SAFER than taking any bogus vaccine.

Furthermore, while we read about all these infections and deaths, we never read about the immediate administration of the HCQ combo pack or ivermectin. Why are public health authorities and the medical establishment still refusing to do what is right and to tell the whole world to stop fearing the "scariants" and make sure they all have there drugs handy? That is sufficient proof that there is a nefarious agenda behind this scam.
People are getting desperately ill and dying from whatever you want to call it. We have "Black Lives Matter", "All Lives Matter" and, so it seems, "No Lives Matter". People are claiming all kinds of things. It makes no difference to the dead and their families or people who suffer ill effects months after contracting the illness. So what is your idea? Let the thing run its course and let nature sort out who lives and who dies? Perhaps you would volunteer to get infected and report back to us, assuming you survive.
 

Gideon300

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That's sad to hear, I hope they get well soon. Did you know that covid-19 is not dissimilar enough to be much different from coronavirus variants that have spawned over many centuries?

People already have varying degrees of herd immunity. The mystery as to why some people are asymptomatic, have a mild reaction, or a severe reaction is explained by pre-existing herd immunity.

The media hype, dramatization, and over-the-top rhetoric about covid-19 is for the purpose of control and money.

You may be wondering why the media never told you this, why they punish prominent influences who break lockstep with the covid-19 narrative, and the extreme reaction unvaccinated people spreading covid-19.

The vaccine, masks, and physical distancing are all about changing the world. It's all about money and control.
Agreed, there is nothing new about the virus, except that is way more easily transmitted than most previous versions. One person in NSW had COVID. He was a driver for airline crew and picked it up from one of them. It's spread over half the country in no time at all.

Your argument does not hold water. The world system runs on money. It requires people to earn and to spend. It requires taxes to be gathered to fund government programs. Anything that threatens business viability is a disaster to the world. Economies are suffering greatly. I can't see too many treasurers rubbing their hands with glee.

As to control, there are different responses in different nations. Australia is over the top in some ways, but we've had nothing like the infection rate and death toll that other countries have suffered. I hate the lockdown. It's my dear friend's birthday this week and our plans have been shelved. I can't even buy her a birthday present. However, she and I are in the age group that is most vulnerable to this blight. I'll put up with the impositions.

Governments don't need a virus to control people. It's been increasing by stealth way before COVID started. And its not only governments. Google and facebook could teach communism a thing or two.
 

Gideon300

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Yep Leviticus 13,14 ect.ect. if your sick separate yourself from the camp for a while then present yourself to the priest but no one sees to do this anymore when thees an illness...
Well, there are no priests, but COVID sufferers are required to quarantine and be tested and demonstrably free of the virus before getting back into the community (in Australia, at least). That applies even if there are no symptoms. As an aside, Jewish communities in Europe suffered much less from the Black Death because they followed the laws regarding sickness.
 
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Agreed, there is nothing new about the virus, except that is way more easily transmitted than most previous versions. One person in NSW had COVID. He was a driver for airline crew and picked it up from one of them. It's spread over half the country in no time at all.

Your argument does not hold water. The world system runs on money. It requires people to earn and to spend. It requires taxes to be gathered to fund government programs. Anything that threatens business viability is a disaster to the world. Economies are suffering greatly. I can't see too many treasurers rubbing their hands with glee.

As to control, there are different responses in different nations. Australia is over the top in some ways, but we've had nothing like the infection rate and death toll that other countries have suffered. I hate the lockdown. It's my dear friend's birthday this week and our plans have been shelved. I can't even buy her a birthday present. However, she and I are in the age group that is most vulnerable to this blight. I'll put up with the impositions.

Governments don't need a virus to control people. It's been increasing by stealth way before COVID started. And its not only governments. Google and facebook could teach communism a thing or two.
If my argument didn't hold water then you wouldn't be in lock down hiding from a virus that will probably do nothing to you. You're obeying your government overlords and have drank the kool-aid of their fear mongering. It's your choice.
 

Billyd

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The state of Victoria was enjoying relief from lockdowns. Three men, who knowingly had the virus, did a road trip from NSW, through Victoria to South Australia. That is a very long way and they stopped to refuel, eat and rest. They were permitted to take the trip because they are removalists. So they visited some homes as well.

As a result, COVID has taken off again and once more we are in lockdown. The men were obviously well enough to work. Presumably they thought the symptoms insignificant so they ignored them. The problem is that not everyone reacts the same way. The mother of one of the men contracted COVID and has died of it. Obviously the men had their reasons which will come out in court. In the mean time, people are suffering needlessly. Yes, most people recover from COVID. I wonder if people would be so blase if it was their parents who died from it.
Those who deny that covid19 exists haven't spent time in the hospitals treating patients with it. They haven't been to the funerals of patients who have died from it. And worst of all they do their best to convince gullible people that the vaccines don't work, or that they are killing off the population. The vaccines are working. The numbers are coming down. More than 97% of the covid19 hospitalizations and virtually all of the covid19 deaths are unvaccinated.

Don't let the deniers make you responsible for the death of a love one, or a denier. Get vaccinated.
 

iamsoandso

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Well, there are no priests, but COVID sufferers are required to quarantine and be tested and demonstrably free of the virus before getting back into the community (in Australia, at least). That applies even if there are no symptoms. As an aside, Jewish communities in Europe suffered much less from the Black Death because they followed the laws regarding sickness.

In the county I live in in Texas (Tyler) they posted on the emergency management threads that those who tested positive were added to the total and that they were removed after 10 days but there was no requirement to be re-tested to see if it was gone.
 
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Those who deny that covid19 exists haven't spent time in the hospitals treating patients with it. They haven't been to the funerals of patients who have died from it. And worst of all they do their best to convince gullible people that the vaccines don't work, or that they are killing off the population. The vaccines are working. The numbers are coming down. More than 97% of the covid19 hospitalizations and virtually all of the covid19 deaths are unvaccinated.

Don't let the deniers make you responsible for the death of a love one, or a denier. Get vaccinated.
Appeal to emotion, push the pro-vaccine narrative, demonize the oponent. This reads like classic propaganda. How much do you get paid to post this here?
 

Billyd

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Appeal to emotion, push the pro-vaccine narrative, demonize the oponent. This reads like classic propaganda. How much do you get paid to post this here?
I don't get paid to post anywhere!!! It appears to me that you and other deniers (propaganda pushers) are the ones who spend most of their time demonizing most of their opponents. Today we have 19 people in our local hospital with covid19, three on ventilators, none have been vaccinated. Of the 14,000+ people in the county that have been vaccinated, none have been hospitalized as result of a vaccine side effect.

Don't let the deniers make you responsible for the death of a love one, or a denier. Get vaccinated.
 
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I don't get paid to post anywhere!!! It appears to me that you and other deniers (propaganda pushers) are the ones who spend most of their time demonizing most of their opponents. Today we have 19 people in our local hospital with covid19, three on ventilators, none have been vaccinated. Of the 14,000+ people in the county that have been vaccinated, none have been hospitalized as result of a vaccine side effect.

Don't let the deniers make you responsible for the death of a love one, or a denier. Get vaccinated.
Now you're using a hostile tactic known as scapegoating. You place unmerited blame on people without vaccines, blaming them for the deaths of others, rather than blaming illnesses.

You're attempting to manipulate Christians using deceit and misinformation. That's very bad.
 

Billyd

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Now you're using a hostile tactic known as scapegoating. You place unmerited blame on people without vaccines, blaming them for the deaths of others, rather than blaming illnesses.

You're attempting to manipulate Christians using deceit and misinformation. That's very bad.
I am not attempting to manipulate anyone. I find it extremely difficult to believe that a Christian, a person who is saved by grace, through faith in Christ, who sees people dying, or very ill, would go to the extremes the deniers here use to prevent them from getting a vaccination that could save their life.

The only ones attempting to manipulate Christians are those who deny the covid19 exist or that the vaccine is ineffective.
 
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Appeal to emotion, push the pro-vaccine narrative, demonize the oponent. This reads like classic propaganda. How much do you get paid to post this here?
The virus is not real. Sorry to tell you. You need to research instead of believing the liars in charge... I know for a fact from my own experience that it's not real. It's a worldwide psychological operation on the masses. Christians have no darn business believing this.
 
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Those who deny that covid19 exists haven't spent time in the hospitals treating patients with it. They haven't been to the funerals of patients who have died from it. And worst of all they do their best to convince gullible people that the vaccines don't work, or that they are killing off the population. The vaccines are working. The numbers are coming down. More than 97% of the covid19 hospitalizations and virtually all of the covid19 deaths are unvaccinated.

Don't let the deniers make you responsible for the death of a love one, or a denier. Get vaccinated.
It does not exist. You are programmed and Christians have no business being decieved
 
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I am not attempting to manipulate anyone. I find it extremely difficult to believe that a Christian, a person who is saved by grace, through faith in Christ, who sees people dying, or very ill, would go to the extremes the deniers here use to prevent them from getting a vaccination that could save their life.

The only ones attempting to manipulate Christians are those who deny the covid19 exist or that the vaccine is ineffective.
.Stop appealing to emotion. Use your brain. Nothing to do with people dying. You are the one who should be ashamed of yourself as Christian for beleiving this of the Devil. You beleive the luciferians in charge of this world. You totally decieved. Maybe read your Bible..Satan has literally decieved the whole world. They are lying to us and fabricating numbers