Sabbath

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Reader....

What are the 2 surest ways to enter hell after you die?

1. Christ Rejecter

2. Religious but Lost. = Water baptized law keeping commandment worshiping = "Depart from Me i never knew you".


Jesus said...>"You must be born again". = Water baptized, law keeping and commandment keeping, and all self effort, need not apply

Jesus said...>"no man comes to the Father but by WATER......= NOPE !

Jesus said > "no man comes to the Father but by commandments and law......= NOPE !

Jesus said..."no man comes to the Father but by Mary, the Sacrament, and enduring to the end.....= NOPE !


Jesus said....."no man comes to the Father, but by ME """.....John 14:6.......= YES !

Chapter and verse for your claims please

yep freedom to choose indeed

“For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:10-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

so why would someone choose a curse of a broken covenant that was taken away by the lord so we can live again ?

it’s almost like you guys that promote Moses law have never read Moses law and have no idea what’s in the book of the law that you have to keep when you promote it as essential what you guys are missing is what’s written you can’t hear but , listen to the scripture choose to leave the curse in this way

Do you have this choice to choose

“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you can continue in the knowledge of sin and punishment and guilt or you can accept the gospel which is as always the opposite it’s the knowledge of repentance and remission of sins

you can’t seem to understand it’s one plan the New Testament requires all mankind to be made guilty of thier sins the law is for that purpose , the rest of the plan was to now reveal the grave and truth of God that remits those sins and that covenant that is cursed forever because they broke it and anyone who ever breaks it is cursed which is all
Men , now we need to have the curse removed and receive the spirit from Jesus

there are consequences in the choice your correct chi posing Moses law is the wrong choice , choosing Christ and the gospel is salvstion for anyone who will hear and believe

you can choose to wear that yoke meant to hold the world guilty and can never justify you before God or the other choice is to get baptized and consider that you sinned under law and died with Christ and are no longer under the law but now are with Christ and his word

“Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ;

that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭7:1, 4‬ ‭KJV

nite he uses the law like our husband , now there was a death , so we are now free to marry another husband not the law , but the gospel

I’m not sure why you can’t hear this but it’s really clear if you just read it and accept that the Bible has it right and no
Matter how much we insist it’s always going to say what it says we’re supposed to let it change our understanding not ignore it

all I can really do is share the things that are clear like the first wuote above why choose a curse when salvation is also offered ?

Matthew 5:18-19


18 because I tell all of you with certainty that until heaven and earth disappear, not one letter or one stroke of a letter will disappear from the Law until everything has been accomplished. 19 So whoever sets aside one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom from heaven. But whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom from heaven


Luke 16:17

17 However, it is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for one stroke of a letter in the Law to be dropped.



What has the Messiah fulfilled?

Luke 24:44

44 He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”

So where in the law of Moses, Prophets and/or Psalms does it say someone was going to come abolish the law?



1 John 2:1-6


2 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
3 We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. 5 But if anyone obeys his word, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in him: 6 Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.



1 John 5:1-3

5 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Messiah has been born from God, and everyone who loves the parent also loves the child. 2 This is how we know that we love God’s children: we love God and keep his commandments. 3 For this demonstrates our love for God: We keep his commandments, and his commandments are not difficult,



Revelation 22:14

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Can you name a 3rd option? I can't think of one.

Galatians, Romans, Colossians, Etc...... everything you post is from Paul. I have already addressed how these verses are misinterpreted and how context, translation, lack of old testament understanding, etc. is causing confusion.

Again, you don't have to take my word for it....2 Peter 3:16-17 is clear that people would be doing this with his writings. Not only did Peter write a rebuttal to him.... James did as well:


James 2:19-26


19 You believe that there is one God. That’s fine! Even the demons believe that and tremble with fear. 20 Do you want proof, you foolish person, that faith without actions is worthless? 21 Our ancestor Abraham was justified by his actions when he offered his son Isaac on the altar, wasn’t he? 22 You see that his faith worked together with what he did, and by his actions his faith was made complete. 23 And so the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.” And so he was called God’s friend. 24 You observe that a person is justified through actions and not through faith alone. 25 Likewise, Rahab the prostitute was justified through actions when she welcomed the messengers and sent them away on a different road, wasn’t she? 26 For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without actions is also dead.


Peter, James, Mathew, Luke, John, and even Paul..... I've posted passages from multiple authors that all support a combination of following law and having love through the Messiah (the physical and the spiritual) being required of us. All you have is verses from Paul despite rebuttals/warnings from other authors.

yea but you have yet to even acknowledge any of it I think you “ know “ too much to hear anything honestly

Chapter and verse for your claims???

You have the freedom to believe as you want... Even "IF" I did interpret Paul as you do, I will stick with believing Mathew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, James and all the writers in what is now called the "old testament".

Its just not worth the gamble to me

I would rather stand at mount Zion where there is grace then stand in front of mount Sinai where there is no mercy , even an animal died should it tread on the cold mountain...

How sad Gods grace is not enough , how can people be so blind...

Only the Holy Spirit can open blind eyes ...

By the way , I heard someone talking about the differences between the mountains of Sinai and Zion , it made so much sence...
...xox...

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yes Gods grace is enough when we accept his actual grace that allows for learning and repenting it is sad to me also that people reject what God said about salvstion and his grace and make it what it isn’t this is how Gods grace saves us

“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.”
‭‭Titus‬ ‭2:11-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

when grace rejects the word of the Lord it’s the other grace mentioned in scripture and won’t save

“For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.”
‭‭Jude‬ ‭1:4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

just saying it’s all grace isn’t what God is saying there are teachings that impart grace and teach us about repentance and upright living to reject that part is actually rejecting the grace of God that changes us so we don’t go spend our future without him

Amen sister. Its sad there are still people today who do not understand the significant of Mount sinai,

Again, can you name a third option.

Can you name a chapter and verse that shows any other way to heaven?

Or are you just going to ignore the obvious?

by the way, You have not answered how you have met the perfect requirement of the law yet. Is it because you have come to your senses and admit that you CAN’T keep them?

Why would waste time answering questions that are a response to the questions I asked?.... Answering questions with questions. You just make a bunch of empty claims without scripture to back it up... I'm not going to play this game with you. You have it all figured out.

1. I asked you how you fulfilled the law before you asked that question. Now your just blame shifting. Your the one playing games not me
many people answer questions with questions. The fact you can’t give a third option just exposes the fact your question was nonsense.

I've addressed every scripture that was posted and that I was asked about. If I'm going to respond to a claim that I can't recall where that claim is in scripture... then I'm going to ask for the the scripture that supports that claim. If you can't provide that, then there is no point in addressing it.... It's just your beliefs.

You have not answered my questions about the quotes of scripture I posted about the law requiring perfection. Nor have you explained to me how you can fulfill or obey the law.

This is not about something someone said to you where you asked for scripture. I just responded and asked you for the third option . Since you asked for sc rapture about the two.

Now either answer my questions. Or prove your nothing but a hypocrite. And I can turn you over to God as an impostor.

You tried to hide from my question dude. Your not allowed too. We do not play those game here. Don’t demand someone answer your questions when you will not even answer other peoples questions.

Leviticus 18:5, John 3:36

((among many others))

Did you really not know?
This is milk, bro.

Romans happens to have a lot more than 2 chapters, btw

@MalikB

Try the next chapter for example. Romans 3:20 mean anything to you?
But keep reading. Ch. 6-8 is where it really starts to get into good news.
Did you know the first 'command' in that whole book - the first time Paul tells the reader who believes to 'do' something, is in ch. 6?
'consider yourself dead'

You may notice he ((nor Christ either)) never commanded anyone to keep sabbath
Interesting huh


This is milk, bruh
Read the first paragraph of ch. 7, slowly