Why I'm getting the vaccine.

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Roughsoul1991

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Yes as you was speaking to me about his post that I replied to.
 
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Yes as you was speaking to me about his post that I replied to.
You talin' to me? Not adressed to anybody. And I was clear. Answer me, if you want me to do the legwork if I bother at all. Tell me if it will make a difference for you personally, since we are on a social forum, in a personal thread from a person. Or not. Itnetions are everything. Debate or conversation? Get to the meat on the bone, otherwise we mess up his thread with pointless exchanges taking up space. Me and you personally. If he wants to know before the second jab, if he should choose away one of the vaccines because he is over 60, he will ask for himself.
 

Roughsoul1991

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I have changed my mind now. Firstly I did not make a claim, as you should have understood by the use of the words you highlighted in my comment. I told a cautionary tale, told to us on the news here, from officials, in our public healthcare. The one you replied to and specified it was me who made a claim and not him, is wrong, because he made a specific claim about it changing DNA.

So, in order for giving you a reply, first tell me why you want it? Are you going to agree, or pivot off afterwardds? Will it change your mind, on using said vaccine in your country? Will it change your choice of vaccine if so? Or your advice to others? Is this about the covidgod so to speak? Is it about a win in a debate? Will you afford me links to the contrary? If you want to opine against it? Seems by your comments, that you are only here to type "show evidence", to people telling people to get informed. Which is oxymoronic, when the two you replied to here, told people to seek out information only, and you have not asked for sources by those who have made claims. Because if it does not have a personal purpose for you, then I will not bother. 19 out of 20 just ignore it, and keep quarreling, and end it with namecalling. So, I need to know why I should spend 20-30 minutes searching it up, and listening to boring presscenferences about a subject I do not care about at all.
Seems by your comments, that you are only here to type "show evidence" to people telling people to get informed.
Telling people to get informed while making claims with no sources is not helpful. It is like me trying to share Biblical truths while never using providing scripture.

So, I need to know why I should spend 20-30 minutes searching it up, and listening to boring presscenferences about a subject I do not care about at all.
If you do not care then why post advice to the OP?
 

Roughsoul1991

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You talin' to me? Not adressed to anybody. And I was clear. Answer me, if you want me to do the legwork if I bother at all. Tell me if it will make a difference for you personally, since we are on a social forum, in a personal thread from a person. Or not. Itnetions are everything. Debate or conversation? Get to the meat on the bone, otherwise we mess up his thread with pointless exchanges taking up space. Me and you personally. If he wants to know before the second jab, if he should choose away one of the vaccines because he is over 60, he will ask for himself.
Nope talking to Hiskid. Their quote did not load in.
 
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Telling people to get informed while making claims with no sources is not helpful. It is like me trying to share Biblical truths while never using providing scripture.



If you do not care then why post advice to the OP?
As expected. You did not seek the source, so not wasting my time for you. Thank you, we are done now. Please leave his thread alone, even if I do not agree with him, he has a message to people, and we should let it go on without us going nowhere in a pointless exchange. Till next time, remember that your comment does not work. And you will have to genuinly make an individual comment saying something, and state why you ask for source. Time is money. I may waste it for me, but not for you, got better things to spend it on, like rubbing my belly, and shaving my chest and soaking my elbows in avacadolotion.
 
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You talin' to me? Not adressed to anybody. And I was clear. Answer me, if you want me to do the legwork if I bother at all. Tell me if it will make a difference for you personally, since we are on a social forum, in a personal thread from a person. Or not. Itnetions are everything. Debate or conversation? Get to the meat on the bone, otherwise we mess up his thread with pointless exchanges taking up space. Me and you personally. If he wants to know before the second jab, if he should choose away one of the vaccines because he is over 60, he will ask for himself.
Is there actually a point to this thread? Why is the OP announcing they are taking the injection? Are we supposed to care or does he want someone here to talk him out of it?

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Nope talking to Hiskid. Their quote did not load in.
I'm still wondering why the OP is announcing they are taking the injection. Does he want someone to talk him out of it? That's my take on it.
 
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Is there actually a point to this thread? Why is the OP announcing they are taking the injection? Are we supposed to care or does he want someone here to talk him out of it?

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There is a point still, since he has only taken one jab. And we leave all the other stuff that some people call conspiratorial. The Mrwhatever numbers, that is what gives the spike to the bloodcells, that are supposed to be smooth and fluent. The number is 30 in phizer, 100 in moderna, so easy choice there, taken even by our authorities. Old people got the phizer, after it was found out this ting in denmark. And I think that denmark used another one where this issue was worse or the entire issue, that w stopped using, that young folks who needed it for travel could request. But none was to be injected it without requesting it anymore. And they keep talking about a third jab now. So as I see it, this person could get a lower risk vaccine, that is better at protection longterm also. So I think it is important that he get the recommendation. of phizer if he wants to take it. If he is 70 years old, it is really not fair to have him search up stuff I just realized. I understand he is scared and has chosen, so I can just give the info I was trying to find for another one.After all, is about the OP if it is personal to them. Not about arguing pro/con/donotgiveableepwhatsoever
 
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There is a point still, since he has only taken one jab. And we leave all the other stuff that some people call conspiratorial. The Mrwhatever numbers, that is what gives the spike to the bloodcells, that are supposed to be smooth and fluent. The number is 30 in phizer, 100 in moderna, so easy choice there, taken even by our authorities. Old people got the phizer, after it was found out this ting in denmark. And I think that denmark used another one where this issue was worse or the entire issue, that w stopped using, that young folks who needed it for travel could request. But none was to be injected it without requesting it anymore. And they keep talking about a third jab now. So as I see it, this person could get a lower risk vaccine, that is better at protection longterm also. So I think it is important that he get the recommendation. of phizer if he wants to take it. If he is 70 years old, it is really not fair to have him search up stuff I just realized. I understand he is scared and has chosen, so I can just give the info I was trying to find for another one.After all, is about the OP if it is personal to them. Not about arguing pro/con/donotgiveableepwhatsoever
None of these "vaccines" have been approved by the FDA, nor should they be. It is a huge risk injecting something into your body that has not been tested or approved. But, I donotgiveableepwhatsover.

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None of these "vaccines" have been approved by the FDA, nor should they be. It is a huge risk injecting something into your body that has not been tested or approved. But, I donotgiveableepwhatsover.

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I think you are wrong about that. Phizer is approved, along with jannsen, and I think moderna is the third one. So essential for OP, but I am as you, a donotcareatalltypeofperson. I am not informed on the jannsen one at all since we do not have it available here. OP, if you have a choice, chooser phizer.
 

JohnDB

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My in-laws WERE avid and rabid antivaxxers...
Then they got the Delta Variant from their Daughter-in-law...

MIL got the antibody cocktail (which is poison) and after a few days is feeling much better. FIL didn't...he is slowly trying to wean himself off oxygen.... he's still at around a half litre...got a long way to go yet.

Eventually they will be able to have enough bandwidth to test his lungs and kidneys to assess the damages he has sustained. Not sure yet if he will be able to return to work. (Aircraft mechanic working for Prittney).

But they decided that they will get the vaccine once they get past this... mostly because their daughter got the vaccine but never got sick at all...not even a sniffle.

Vaccines are vaccines...they aren't poison. Antibody treatments and chemotherapy for cancers are poison... deliberately poisoning people to kill something that otherwise would kill you.

Cancer is DNA changes...that's why it kills you.
Viruses change your DNA....that's why they make you sick and can kill you.

RNA is not DNA....RNA is what decides which DNA to read and how to read it.

And God has sent his people special people to overcome challenges many many times in the past. Whose to say that God didn't send us the people who developed the mRNA vaccines to save us? That would be like claiming Elijah was just a silly bald old man...they did that too until the bears got hungry.
 

Magenta

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... I understand he is scared and has chosen, so I can just give the info I was trying to find for another one...
I do very little without praying about it and I have peace about my decision.
Scared or at peace? :geek: For the record, I believe what Gideon has said...
 

JohnDB

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I think you are wrong about that. Phizer is approved, along with jannsen, and I think moderna is the third one. So essential for OP, but I am as you, a donotcareatalltypeofperson. I am not informed on the jannsen one at all since we do not have it available here. OP, if you have a choice, chooser phizer.
Actually the AstraZeneca Oxford vaccine never got approval in the USA because their paperwork and trials were a train wreck and comedy of errors.

Johnson and Johnson vaccine was approved but recalled. It also didn't work well. The antibody cocktail worked better for longer than it did.

Pfizer's vaccine works and was initially the one many people got...but it's effectiveness wanes a lot after 6 months.

Moderna's vaccine works the best. It has the longest and best track record of any of them.

Sinopharm and Novovax? I'm really not sure what those guys are doing...they had candidates...but maybe like Merk they have been trying to make them better or they didn't pan out.
 
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Scared or at peace? :geek: For the record, I believe what Gideon has said...
No, it was pretty clear from my end. An old man, considering it, while being in a risk category, so I gave him earthly advice regarding his choice of drug. Despite not taking it myself. How much more openminded can I be? Never doubted OP. I asked another one to clarify why he asked me questions, he would not answer, and do not get answers as a result.
 
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My in-laws WERE avid and rabid antivaxxers...
Then they got the Delta Variant from their Daughter-in-law...

MIL got the antibody cocktail (which is poison) and after a few days is feeling much better. FIL didn't...he is slowly trying to wean himself off oxygen.... he's still at around a half litre...got a long way to go yet.

Eventually they will be able to have enough bandwidth to test his lungs and kidneys to assess the damages he has sustained. Not sure yet if he will be able to return to work. (Aircraft mechanic working for Prittney).

But they decided that they will get the vaccine once they get past this... mostly because their daughter got the vaccine but never got sick at all...not even a sniffle.

Vaccines are vaccines...they aren't poison. Antibody treatments and chemotherapy for cancers are poison... deliberately poisoning people to kill something that otherwise would kill you.

Cancer is DNA changes...that's why it kills you.
Viruses change your DNA....that's why they make you sick and can kill you.

RNA is not DNA....RNA is what decides which DNA to read and how to read it.

And God has sent his people special people to overcome challenges many many times in the past. Whose to say that God didn't send us the people who developed the mRNA vaccines to save us? That would be like claiming Elijah was just a silly bald old man...they did that too until the bears got hungry.
You lost me at rabid antivaxxer.

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Actually the AstraZeneca Oxford vaccine never got approval in the USA because their paperwork and trials were a train wreck and comedy of errors.

Johnson and Johnson vaccine was approved but recalled. It also didn't work well. The antibody cocktail worked better for longer than it did.

Pfizer's vaccine works and was initially the one many people got...but it's effectiveness wanes a lot after 6 months.

Moderna's vaccine works the best. It has the longest and best track record of any of them.

Sinopharm and Novovax? I'm really not sure what those guys are doing...they had candidates...but maybe like Merk they have been trying to make them better or they didn't pan out.
I had to check your offical site last night or the day before. Jannsen is approved. 3 available. They say that phizer works best here. What are we to believe? I believe our folks, you believe yours. Jannsen may be the one that was approve here, then recalled, not checking it, since it does not matter to me. The OP has been given the info he needs for him. Please focus on the effects for old folks over 60, that many countries have reports on. Not the general one. He will get jabbed in 1 month again or so, and it looks like a third jab is needed. We should not bicker, and just think of his situation. He chose to take it, which is the best one for old people. According to official data.
 
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My in-laws WERE avid and rabid antivaxxers...
Then they got the Delta Variant from their Daughter-in-law...

MIL got the antibody cocktail (which is poison) and after a few days is feeling much better. FIL didn't...he is slowly trying to wean himself off oxygen.... he's still at around a half litre...got a long way to go yet.

Eventually they will be able to have enough bandwidth to test his lungs and kidneys to assess the damages he has sustained. Not sure yet if he will be able to return to work. (Aircraft mechanic working for Prittney).

But they decided that they will get the vaccine once they get past this... mostly because their daughter got the vaccine but never got sick at all...not even a sniffle.

Vaccines are vaccines...they aren't poison. Antibody treatments and chemotherapy for cancers are poison... deliberately poisoning people to kill something that otherwise would kill you.

Cancer is DNA changes...that's why it kills you.
Viruses change your DNA....that's why they make you sick and can kill you.

RNA is not DNA....RNA is what decides which DNA to read and how to read it.

And God has sent his people special people to overcome challenges many many times in the past. Whose to say that God didn't send us the people who developed the mRNA vaccines to save us? That would be like claiming Elijah was just a silly bald old man...they did that too until the bears got hungry.
Give it five years. I'm sure you'll all feel swell.

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My in-laws WERE avid and rabid antivaxxers...
Then they got the Delta Variant from their Daughter-in-law...

MIL got the antibody cocktail (which is poison) and after a few days is feeling much better. FIL didn't...he is slowly trying to wean himself off oxygen.... he's still at around a half litre...got a long way to go yet.

Eventually they will be able to have enough bandwidth to test his lungs and kidneys to assess the damages he has sustained. Not sure yet if he will be able to return to work. (Aircraft mechanic working for Prittney).

But they decided that they will get the vaccine once they get past this... mostly because their daughter got the vaccine but never got sick at all...not even a sniffle.

Vaccines are vaccines...they aren't poison. Antibody treatments and chemotherapy for cancers are poison... deliberately poisoning people to kill something that otherwise would kill you.

Cancer is DNA changes...that's why it kills you.
Viruses change your DNA....that's why they make you sick and can kill you.

RNA is not DNA....RNA is what decides which DNA to read and how to read it.

And God has sent his people special people to overcome challenges many many times in the past. Whose to say that God didn't send us the people who developed the mRNA vaccines to save us? That would be like claiming Elijah was just a silly bald old man...they did that too until the bears got hungry.
You cannot reach anybody with this lingo. Can only reject others if you want to reach others. Mkay, so they was antivaxx so what? They got a virus, what does it say about their position? Nothing. Their reasons stands, and you have not adressed them.
 

JohnDB

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I had to check your offical site last night or the day before. Jannsen is approved. 3 available. They say that phizer works best here. What are we to believe? I believe our folks, you believe yours. Jannsen may be the one that was approve here, then recalled, not checking it, since it does not matter to me. The OP has been given the info he needs for him. Please focus on the effects for old folks over 60, that many countries have reports on. Not the general one. He will get jabbed in 1 month again or so, and it looks like a third jab is needed. We should not bicker, and just think of his situation. He chose to take it, which is the best one for old people. According to official data.
I haven't heard of Jannsen.
And I'm not exactly sure which country you are in either.

I'm not denigrating any of the Vaccines...just relating what I have seen from reading.
 

JohnDB

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You cannot reach anybody with this lingo. Can only reject others if you want to reach others. Mkay, so they was antivaxx so what? They got a virus, what does it say about their position? Nothing. Their reasons stands, and you have not adressed them.
Uhhhh....
Not trying to convince anybody of anything....as if that sort of thing actually happens on an internet forum.

I was Just telling a story about people I know well and what happened with them.

I'm not responsible or trying to take any responsibility for anyone but myself. People aren't going to listen to a complete stranger on the internet.