Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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JTB

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All united under the same message global government has.
God told us thousands of years ago that there WILL be a global government.

Do you REALLY think we can pray/vote/stomp our feet and get out from under God's prophecies?
 

JTB

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The deniers of the vaccine hazard are soon going to have to admit they were wrong:

Virologist Warns — ‘Mass Vaccination promotes viral evolution towards more infectious variants’…


Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche



Conducting mass vaccination campaigns on a background of high infection rates generates optimal conditions for breeding even more infectious Sars-CoV-2 variants.

The combination of massive, spike-directed immune pressure combined with high infectious pressure rapidly allows these variants to reproduce more effectively and outcompete previously circulating variants.

Mass vaccination, therefore, promotes viral evolution towards more infectious variants.

https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/...rcles-inevitably-leads-to-erroneous-decisions
This is true. Just like antibiotics lead to antibiotic- resistant bugs, bugs will become resistant to vaccines. The trick is to kill them off entirely BEFORE they have a chance to gain resistance. But that requires a united, mass effort. Good luck on THAT happening.
 

JTB

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Will the truth ever come about? Are we living in the last days of deception? I think we are...the question is, what is the deception?
The deception is geared towards leading believers away from the truth

To deceive the elect.jpg
 

JTB

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Far left huh?

Thats funny since EVERYONE i know who is against these conspiracy theories like myself are CENTRAL RIGHT.

You should stop. Your hurting your own argument..
Central right. That's funny. There IS no center any more.
 

JTB

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Psalm 91
New King James Version



Safety of Abiding in the Presence of God
91 He (A)who dwells in the secret place of the Most High
Shall abide (B)under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 (C)I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress;
My God, in Him I will trust.”
3 Surely (D)He shall deliver you from the snare of the [a]fowler
And from the perilous pestilence.
4 (E)He shall cover you with His feathers,
And under His wings you shall take refuge;
His truth shall be your shield and [b]buckler.
5 (F)You shall not be afraid of the terror by night,
Nor of the arrow that flies by day,
6 Nor of the pestilence that walks in darkness,
Nor of the destruction that lays waste at noonday.
7 A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
8 Only (G)with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.
9 Because you have made the Lord, who is(H)my refuge,
Even the Most High, (I)your dwelling place,
10 (J)No evil shall befall you,
Nor shall any plague come near your dwelling;
11 (K)For He shall give His angels charge over you,
To keep you in all your ways.
12 In their hands they shall [c]bear you up,
(L)Lest you [d]dash your foot against a stone.
13 You shall tread upon the lion and the cobra,
The young lion and the serpent you shall trample underfoot.
14 “Because he has set his love upon Me, therefore I will deliver him;
I will [e]set him on high, because he has (M)known My name.
15 He shall (N)call upon Me, and I will answer him;
I will be (O)with him in trouble;
I will deliver him and honor him.
16 With [f]long life I will satisfy him,
And show him My salvation.”
So what do you say to all the faithful Christians for whom these protections have failed?
 

iamsoandso

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God told us thousands of years ago that there WILL be a global government.

Do you REALLY think we can pray/vote/stomp our feet and get out from under God's prophecies?

Yep once I was speaking to a friend about Armageddon,,he saw it as a big nuke fest with the US,Russia,China ect....To him he saw the US as the victor until I ask him "If we nuke the Russians how come their mentioned after Armageddon,the 1000 years and still a major force?" https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation 20&version=KJV
 

JTB

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Labelling contradictory information "conspiracy theory" is a method introduced by far-left media.
It is used in much the same way as "racist" has been for years. A rescuing device to silence differing opinions.


Some information is bogus and some can be classed as false but I wish Christians wouldn't join the rush to kill off every
piece of evidence that exposes the totally disproportionate and reckless Covid response we've seen.
Agreed.

Just as much as I wish Christians wouldn't join the rush to kill off every piece of evidence that exposes the totally disproportionate and reckless NON-RESPONSES we've seen.

Again, the truth usually lays somewhere in between.
 

JTB

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You can’t see that it has been YOU that have attached those who don’t want the gene therapy?

And what you call fear, I call information. You dismiss the information. Fine. You already took the stuff. I get it. But others haven’t and may need the information to make an informed decision.

Also, I have ZERO fear of the virus. You do. That’s why you chose, and are trying to get your children to take it. Out of fear.
Stands and positions can be taken that don't involve fear
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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God told us thousands of years ago that there WILL be a global government.

Do you REALLY think we can pray/vote/stomp our feet and get out from under God's prophecies?
Just like he told Israel about Babylon and Assyria. But he still punished those who assisted the enemy's plans.

Beside that, we don't know we are seeing the final push for world government. We may have hundreds of years left.
It might have looked bleak to mainland Europeans in the 1930's. That doesn't mean it was a good idea to endorse the
plans of the 3rd Reich.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You can’t see that it has been YOU that have attached those who don’t want the gene therapy?
do tell how I have attacked anyone who does not want to get the vaccine? I have said multiple times, IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO GET IT DONT!!


And what you call fear, I call information. You dismiss the information. Fine. You already took the stuff. I get it. But others haven’t and may need the information to make an informed decision.

Also, I have ZERO fear of the virus. You do. That’s why you chose, and are trying to get your children to take it. Out of fear.
Other have not. and others may not because of the FEAR you are introducing.

How many of them have to die because they listened to your "information"

I have someone at my church who is doing what you are doing, I have lost total respect from this person. He is going AGAINST our church leaders. and even after our leaders have told everyone to "Stop spreading the conspiracy theories" And start trying to fight for unity not scare tactics. He refuses.. KNOWING he is going against the church. (he started with the Trump stuff trying to tell us how the election was stolen)

It does not look good. People outside see it and it turns them off. We have had a few members stop coming because of his rants and ravings. I have stopped going to my mens cell group. Because I am sick of it all..
 
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What argument?
I have simply not taken a vacccine or believed any of the narrative that goes along with it.
I have warned others that I have legitimate concerns that it is dangerous.


I will not be bullied with guilt & fear-mongering by members of the church anymore than I will by the government.
You are lashing out at everyone around you who won't validate you for being injected.
It is obvious you have no idea what my intent or purpose is.

I know many who do not want to take the shot. I have not said a word to them. They are free to do what they want.

I am lashing out at the fear tactics of people who think the government is out to kill us all..
 
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Central right. That's funny. There IS no center any more.
I know many of us who are center.

But if youy look at the media sadly your right. We are a divided nation who are looking at the end..

As the old saying goes. UNited we stand divided we fall

Rome fell because of the very thing occurring in my country right now

corrupt politicians

Division of its people

refusing to try to come together, instead attacking everything the other side wants to make them look bad.

Its not just the left or right in government, it is the people. Sadly the church is getting in on it.. Its just history repeating itself all over again.

I fear for my grandkids.. Because I have no hope they will have the freedom I had..
 

PennEd

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do tell how I have attacked anyone who does not want to get the vaccine? I have said multiple times, IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO GET IT DONT!!
You have repeatedly called those who don’t want the vaccine, and bring information from opposing Drs and scientists, conspiracy theorists!

You don’t consider that an attack?

We think YOUR’E the conspiracy theorist for believing the worlds narrative.
 

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do tell how I have attacked anyone who does not want to get the vaccine? I have said multiple times, IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO GET IT DONT!!




Other have not. and others may not because of the FEAR you are introducing.

How many of them have to die because they listened to your "information"

I have someone at my church who is doing what you are doing, I have lost total respect from this person. He is going AGAINST our church leaders. and even after our leaders have told everyone to "Stop spreading the conspiracy theories" And start trying to fight for unity not scare tactics. He refuses.. KNOWING he is going against the church. (he started with the Trump stuff trying to tell us how the election was stolen)

It does not look good. People outside see it and it turns them off. We have had a few members stop coming because of his rants and ravings. I have stopped going to my mens cell group. Because I am sick of it all..
The hypocrisy in this post is almost unreal.

On the one hand you say “who’s coercing you to get the shot “. On the other we are causing death and destruction and pose a threat to your family.
YOU are the ranter. Recognize it.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You have repeatedly called those who don’t want the vaccine, and bring information from opposing Drs and scientists, conspiracy theorists!


Yep.

You don’t consider that an attack?

We think YOUR’E the conspiracy theorist for believing the worlds narrative.
I am not asking anyone to believe any narrative my friend.

That's where you are wrong..
 
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The hypocrisy in this post is almost unreal.

On the one hand you say “who’s coercing you to get the shot “. On the other we are causing death and destruction and pose a threat to your family.
YOU are the ranter. Recognize it.
1. I am not the one who is spreading fear or anti government anti vaccine conspiracies (something that has not been proven is called a conspiracy)

2. I am going to have to let this go before I lose all respect for you brother.
 

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I am lashing out at the fear tactics of people who think the government is out to kill us all..
Well you are lashing out at the wrong people. If you do not believe that governments all over the world (not just in the US) are out to depopulate and destroy their countries (which is the same as killing people and wrecking economies) then you have failed to examine this issue thoroughly. That is not "fear tactics" but a warning sound to everyone to reject the bogus vaccines (some of which were banned in some countries).

23,252 Deaths 2,189,537 Injured Following COVID Shots Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/2...an-unions-database-of-adverse-drug-reactions/

And this is only THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG!
 

Gideon300

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You know this woman?
I have seen lots of reports where stuff like this is fake news
not saying this is. But I know well over 1000 people in my church took the shot. My church is recommending everyone gets it. And we have over 1000 members. I would think if it was this dangerous we would have witnessed it. But nothing

Funny just like with all the things we hear on the news lately. It is always someone else who has an issue.
Again. I had a reaction to the flue shot when I was younger. I could
Not take it because I would get seriously ill. It does
It mean no one should take the glue shot
we need to stop spreading fear especially as christians
Amen. I react badly to flu vaccines. I was reluctant to get the COVID jab for weeks. I read the fairy tales told by anti vaxxers. I checked the real story from people who actually know stuff. I prayed about it. I had my first jab. My next is due in November.

Some people do have reactions to some of the non-active products in the jab. Some people are going to die anyway. Vaccination will help the vast majority of people and it's far safer than getting COVID and hoping you won't suffer any ill effects.
 

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Well you are lashing out at the wrong people. If you do not believe that governments all over the world (not just in the US) are out to depopulate and destroy their countries (which is the same as killing people and wrecking economies) then you have failed to examine this issue thoroughly. That is not "fear tactics" but a warning sound to everyone to reject the bogus vaccines (some of which were banned in some countries).

23,252 Deaths 2,189,537 Injured Following COVID Shots Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/2...an-unions-database-of-adverse-drug-reactions/

And this is only THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG!
This is just another dumb piece of fake news. If governments want to depopulate, they don't spend a squillion on vaccines. They let the disease run its course. It kills far more than the vaccination does.
 
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This is just another dumb piece of fake news. If governments want to depopulate, they don't spend a squillion on vaccines. They let the disease run its course. It kills far more than the vaccination does.
A government needs people to govern and an evil government needs people to pay taxes and to support them to keep them in power

No government is going to put something out that has the possibility of killing everyone and tells everyone they must take this poison.

Thats why all this nonsense is so laughable.

While our government is corrupt and I do not trust them. The stuff being thrown out now is just laughable..
 
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