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Bible codes are hidden messages purported to exist in the original text of Scripture. Many people claim to have discovered Bible codes using mathematical patterns. Some codes are found by counting letters or by assigning numerical values to each letter in a text (called “theomatics”). More complex codes are being found with the help of computers. For example, some have looked at Isaiah 53:5 (“But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed”) and, using every twelfth Hebrew letter, spelled the sentence “Jesus is my name.”

So, there do appear to be some Bible codes that reveal specific, meaningful information. We cannot completely rule out the possibility that God has “hidden” messages in His Word. God is certainly capable of structuring His inspired Word in such a complex way. However, we know that God wants us to understand His Word (2 Timothy 3:16–17), so we must ask why He would “cloak” valuable information that people would be unable to decipher for thousands of years.

There are some problems with the idea of Bible codes. For one, the Bible does not ever hint of the existence of internal codes (Proverbs 25:2 notwithstanding), so all Bible codes are the result of human constructs overlaid on the text. Jesus, in all of the times that He cites Bible passages, never once uses a “Bible code” to draw out a meaning. The apostle Paul, in all the times he references Old Testament passages, never once uses a “Bible code” to provide deeper insight. The same can be said for all of the other biblical authors.

Also, Bible codes are not necessary. What we need to know and apply is clear enough from a “straight” reading of the Word of God. Our salvation comes through calling on Christ to save us from our sin. Calling on Christ comes as we place our faith in Him. Faith comes as a result of hearing the Word of God. Hearing happens as people go out and preach the Word of God to others (Romans 10:9–17). After salvation, we grow in Christ as we feed upon the Word of God (Psalm 119:9–11,105; 2 Timothy 3:16–17; 1 Peter 2:2). All these passages refer to taking the text of the Bible at face value and applying its principles. Salvation and sanctification are not dependent on seeking out Bible codes.

Also, identifying Bible codes is always somewhat arbitrary. The process of discovery and interpretation depends greatly on the perspective of the researcher. This is especially true when the Bible codes are seen as prophetic. Some code-searchers claim to have found references to the World Trade Center, Yasser Arafat, Bill Clinton, anthrax, and various earthquakes and other disasters.

Is the Bible a complex book? Yes. Is it more complex than we know? Yes, surely. Is it possible that God embedded hidden messages in the original text of Scripture? Yes, it is possible that Bible codes exist. But, again, a plain reading of the Bible speaks for itself. All that we need from the Bible is obtained from a straightforward study of its text (2 Timothy 2:15; 3:16–17). There is no need for the time-consuming tasks of counting letters, searching for sequences, and arranging the text in various grids in order to find what amounts to questionable patterns and subjective interpretations. source
 
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to be fully persuaded in one's own mind that we are entering the apocalypse and believers will be soon be raptured, is the prerogative of anyone who so chooses to believe. what did we ever do before the internet and the advent of all these prophets?

however, to accuse anyone and in this case in particular, of slander when no slander occured, simply because others do not share that belief, although holding to the biblical account and not the so called prophecy sites accounts, is illustrative of someone who is more impressed with their own religiosity than the posts warrant

we have been pelted with videos, references to a very long blog on this site and various referrals to meteors doing great damage to the earth and the US in particular as well as 'Bible codes' and all in plain site, so trying to manipulate what was posted and saying slander slander, is really obnoxious and frankly childish at this point

and yes ZNP I am talking about you

believe whatever you wish...no slander was aimed at you...for some reason you are just really irked I don't agree with you so continue to say slander or whatever else you wish to portray...the end of September is not that far off

I don't frequent so called prophecy clubs, or listen to those videos on youtube you directed me to in order to try and convince me that you are right, but I did listen to enough to know I do not care to soak my brain in that sort of thing

thanks but no thanks

still no reason for you to fly off the cuff and become so hostile. we can all read what you have posted from Bible codes, to your blog to the people you follow...all of which have been proven to be noteworthy liars...in other words, the so called prophecies did not come true

so so so tired of believers being led astray because they follow men instead of God. we don't need a Moses...we now have Jesus and the Holy Spirit and we have the biblical account of the future. this constant wanting to know the future is not of God. however, those with itching ears will always flock to this sort of thing....sincerity is not any guarantee against deception

and now I really will leave you to your musings and forecastings ... and whatever else you wish to post
 

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I retired last week but had to go back to school today for paperwork. I saw the teachers and other staff and you could see it in their eyes. They feel trapped, they are scared they made the wrong decision and they are beginning to realize they have been lied to. It must be very scary to think you got the vaccine and it might actually be some kind of trap, especially if you got it for your kids as well. On the other hand they tell me they can't give up their job.
 

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i believe them over mainstream media.

the mainstream media lies most every day.
What is mainstream media? Not all what you are calling mainstream is reporting false.
There are also reports which you can find inmeyical yournals. You will not find their Informations you tube. Because there interest is not for to get Klicks.
You as Christian should not believe what pleases you, but what is true.
Believing people who known for their false Informations will not fit to trust in.
Like a Tucker Carlson from fox news, who confess openly to lie.
 

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What is mainstream media? Not all what you are calling mainstream is reporting false.
There are also reports which you can find inmeyical yournals. You will not find their Informations you tube. Because there interest is not for to get Klicks.
You as Christian should not believe what pleases you, but what is true.
Believing people who known for their false Informations will not fit to trust in.
Like a Tucker Carlson from fox news, who confess openly to lie.

show me a video of tucker professing to lying openly.
not a story from another network, him stating that.
 

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So you believe a right conspiracy theory spreader? Questionable source!
I believe in freedom of speech...
I don't believe in MSM Lies and SM censorship...
I believe that the DS has brainwashed society with their control of biased Media, Celebrities and corrupt Politicians...
I believe alternative Christian Patriot news sources provide access to more information for people to use discernment to determine and realize the TRUTH...
I believe anyone who blindly dismisses and attempts to counter these alternative news sources are either Asleep, Brainwashed, or unknowingly on the side of the DS evil Diobalical Agenda...
 

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the point he was trying to make was he would tell a lie from time to time, while other media lies most of the time, the same thing i .
tucker works for fox news. fox news is mostly controlled opposition. they are not that truthful over all, he is the best of the bunch.


that is why i get my info from independent media, without big corporation and big phrma writing them big checks that " encourage " them to report in a certain way...


also, interesting that you CAN do a little research on tucker, but you CAN"T do any research on all the vaccine side effects presented here...
 

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Read the article.
Tucker is guilty of admitting to being human.

That was the context of his comments.

Those that say they never lie are liars.

Like all sin, we confess it and the Lord cleanses us.

The left has latched on to him admitting his humanity and are trying to make it seem like anything he reports on is false.

Revoltingly disgusting! Especially coming from supposed “Christians “.
 

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Look up, your redemption draweth nigh
 

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if ( or when) sep. 24 comes, and nothing happens, as someone else told you, come back to the site, and much more importantly, keep your faith strong.

have faith in God through Christ, not in a day and event.
 

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if ( or when) sep. 24 comes, and nothing happens, as someone else told you, come back to the site, and much more importantly, keep your faith strong.

have faith in God through Christ, not in a day and event.
Same to you if something does happen.
 

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the point he was trying to make was he would tell a lie from time to time, while other media lies most of the time, the same thing i .
tucker works for fox news. fox news is mostly controlled opposition. they are not that truthful over all, he is the best of the bunch.


that is why i get my info from independent media, without big corporation and big phrma writing them big checks that " encourage " them to report in a certain way...


also, interesting that you CAN do a little research on tucker, but you CAN"T do any research on all the vaccine side effects presented here...
You asked Aidan to prove Tucker admitted he lies, and he did. Is it that hard to say, "My bad. I never saw this before?" instead of getting defensive?? Admitting we were wrong should be fairly easy for us Christians.
 
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if ( or when) sep. 24 comes, and nothing happens, as someone else told you, come back to the site, and much more importantly, keep your faith strong.

have faith in God through Christ, not in a day and event.
this will keep happening until people get their heads on straight and stop with the extra biblical sources and the musings of all the online false prophets, seers and dreamers

I guess you've seen the thread by Winnie in which she claims God gave her a dream in which He told her straight out that the vaccine IS the mark

first off, why do you need to pray and pray and pray ...she said she asked God for many months...when scripture ALREADY tells us about the mark and where it will be given

I firmly believe many things still have to happen and it is not yet the time that all these so called prophets say that it is....deception is not a gift of the Holy Spirit and no matter how holy and wonderful all these people sound, they are not speaking for God

and I have no trouble saying any of that
 
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Read the article.
Tucker is guilty of admitting to being human.

That was the context of his comments.

Those that say they never lie are liars.

Like all sin, we confess it and the Lord cleanses us.

The left has latched on to him admitting his humanity and are trying to make it seem like anything he reports on is false.

Revoltingly disgusting! Especially coming from supposed “Christians “.

well the thing with Aidan is that he is relentless in mocking anything a person says who will not take the vaccine and it would be typical for him to exaggerate and say something not true

so it is not out of place for someone to call him on it

I really can no longer put into words what I think about the left and the constant demonic lies.
 
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