Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

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Moses_Young

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This approach is probably not going to be productive to your position.
People are free to reject what I tell them. Their bodies, their choices.

Why is that your stating that Covid was already killing people in Italy via Bill Gates and mates before the vaccine(which would mean the vaccine is not needed in order to spread it) and that they can infect people with it vaccinated or not.
This is not complicated. The flu kills people every year. It has since the late 1800s, when electricity was brought to the masses. Not many people, but some. The more electricity and electro-magnetic radiation, the more flu. People died of flu and other respiratory illnesses with similar symptoms every year around the world, but especially in Wuhan and Lombardy, which were places with exceptional air pollution. Note that many of the people dying were mostly elderly or with co-morbidities, so were going to die of something soon anyway - if not corona, old age.

People aren't scared of the flu. So - the conspirators - let's call them the [DS] - needed a brand name that people would fear. They named it "covid-19". They made out its symptoms were such we had never before experienced, although for most cases diagnosed as coronavirus, the symptoms are not unusual. (It is possible the symptoms in some cases were related to 5G, and this would explain the bizarre symptoms in these cases).

Due to the potential for contagion (they claimed), they started prohibiting family members coming into hospitals to visit sick relatives. This allowed them to start up with the medical malpractice (due to the official treatment protocols) killing the patients. The medical establishment got away with it because families were not allowed to be present with the dying, although a number of medical staff around the world spoke out about it and were censored or fired. While all this was going on, the media were whipping people into a fear frenzy from this "deadly pandemic".

Then comes Bill Gates with his pre-prepared vaccine, after several months (a year?) of propagandising for it, so all these people living in fear of this mysterious virus (which wasn't really killing any more people than normal, except due to the medical malpractice) are begging for the vaccine. The vax starts being administered, around the world, and the real death counts start going up (medical murder via malpractice with other drugs is now no longer required to up the death tally, as the vax is doing that).

In addition I would caution against suggesting anti-parasitic drugs(ones your naming) and why is that it is well known that anti-parasitic drugs(wormers) will cause miscarriage. Wormwood(and many others) is an anti-parasitic that has been used for thousands of years to cause abortion and the anti-parasitic's you named will have the same result. https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/abortifacient
Thanks. I am not a doctor, so I can't suggest these for individuals - each of us needs to do our own research. But I have done enough to know these would work for me. I didn't know that about the anti-parasitic drugs and the potential for miscarriage, but I will say that these mRNA vaxxes have also been responsible for quite a number of miscarriages and still-births.
 
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The vaccine is the virus. If you are vaccinated, you have the "virus". It's not an if - it's a when. Unless all your jabs were somehow one of the placebo, saline shots.
Actually, the Vaccine is a binary to stop replication of the specifics to any given Cell.
It is literally doing nothing but being a detour so Covid is unable to copy your Cell and seek out the Weaknesses in your Genetics.
 
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Or maybe it's a funeral home run by an undertaker with a conscience, and he's seen all the deaths of vaxxed people and doesn't want people to die unnecessarily? How would you feel if you kept having to bury double-jabbed 16 year olds and 25 year olds who were dying of heart attacks and strokes and things we expect from the 65+ year olds, just because they'd be poisoned with a fake-jab, and the medical system and media were censoring the doctors who were speaking out against it? Would you put up signs encouring vaccination so you could make a few more dollars (most of which would go to the government in taxes anyway), or would you try and get the truth out there? I know what I'd do - there are more important things in life than earning fake money for a fake government.

Since the Undertaker, from the Baptist Church [I once visited at least once per month] has been arrested for Necrophilia and in Prison, it's not like I have a short list of Undertakers to ask. This right now is an easy 50/50 toss up!
 

iamsoandso

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People are free to reject what I tell them. Their bodies, their choices.

This is not complicated. The flu kills people every year. It has since the late 1800s, when electricity was brought to the masses. Not many people, but some. The more electricity and electro-magnetic radiation, the more flu. People died of flu and other respiratory illnesses with similar symptoms every year around the world, but especially in Wuhan and Lombardy, which were places with exceptional air pollution. Note that many of the people dying were mostly elderly or with co-morbidities, so were going to die of something soon anyway - if not corona, old age.

People aren't scared of the flu. So - the conspirators - let's call them the [DS] - needed a brand name that people would fear. They named it "covid-19". They made out its symptoms were such we had never before experienced, although for most cases diagnosed as coronavirus, the symptoms are not unusual. (It is possible the symptoms in some cases were related to 5G, and this would explain the bizarre symptoms in these cases).

Due to the potential for contagion (they claimed), they started prohibiting family members coming into hospitals to visit sick relatives. This allowed them to start up with the medical malpractice (due to the official treatment protocols) killing the patients. The medical establishment got away with it because families were not allowed to be present with the dying, although a number of medical staff around the world spoke out about it and were censored or fired. While all this was going on, the media were whipping people into a fear frenzy from this "deadly pandemic".

Then comes Bill Gates with his pre-prepared vaccine, after several months (a year?) of propagandising for it, so all these people living in fear of this mysterious virus (which wasn't really killing any more people than normal, except due to the medical malpractice) are begging for the vaccine. The vax starts being administered, around the world, and the real death counts start going up (medical murder via malpractice with other drugs is now no longer required to up the death tally, as the vax is doing that).

Thanks. I am not a doctor, so I can't suggest these for individuals - each of us needs to do our own research. But I have done enough to know these would work for me. I didn't know that about the anti-parasitic drugs and the potential for miscarriage, but I will say that these mRNA vaxxes have also been responsible for quite a number of miscarriages and still-births.

and see "the flu" is exactly what made me realize that they were not telling us everything they know about C-19. That is the flu if you think about it is an hundred year long study that has involved billions of people. The flu has been here for over an hundred years(since ww1). Now this year they say they will give the option to receive the C-19 vaccine and the flu shot at the same time(that should be the wake up call). Why is that they keep saying their trying to reach "herd immunity" to C-19 by either people catching it or by vaccinating. Now look at the one hundred years of the flu,,,,if we could reach "herd immunity" to a virus why do people still die from it every year?,,,Why do you need a flu shot every year if you have immunity after catching it? You see they know you don't because we didn't with the flu and so you wont be immune after catching C-19 either. Do'nt catch it,,,don't let your children catch it...
 
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and see "the flu" is exactly what made me realize that they were not telling us everything they know about C-19. That is the flu if you think about it is an hundred year long study that has involved billions of people. The flu has been here for over an hundred years(since ww1). Now this year they say they will give the option to receive the C-19 vaccine and the flu shot at the same time(that should be the wake up call). Why is that they keep saying their trying to reach "herd immunity" to C-19 by either people catching it or by vaccinating. Now look at the one hundred years of the flu,,,,if we could reach "herd immunity" to a virus why do people still die from it every year?,,,Why do you need a flu shot every year if you have immunity after catching it? You see they know you don't because we didn't with the flu and so you wont be immune after catching C-19 either. Do'nt catch it,,,don't let your children catch it...

Yep, when Covid finally enters your molecular structure, it reads the Cell and duplicates that Cell, but with a new Binary Code causing the human body to succumb it

All the Vaccine is attempting to do, is when Covid reads your Molecules and specifically your Cells searching for Weak Genetics, the Vaccine, is trying to hide the Binary Coding which allows Cell Copy and Reproduction.

But you're absolutely correct, best thing all together is simply to AVOID Covid.
 
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and see "the flu" is exactly what made me realize that they were not telling us everything they know about C-19. That is the flu if you think about it is an hundred year long study that has involved billions of people. The flu has been here for over an hundred years(since ww1). Now this year they say they will give the option to receive the C-19 vaccine and the flu shot at the same time(that should be the wake up call). Why is that they keep saying their trying to reach "herd immunity" to C-19 by either people catching it or by vaccinating. Now look at the one hundred years of the flu,,,,if we could reach "herd immunity" to a virus why do people still die from it every year?,,,Why do you need a flu shot every year if you have immunity after catching it? You see they know you don't because we didn't with the flu and so you wont be immune after catching C-19 either. Do'nt catch it,,,don't let your children catch it...
The problem with most people is they do not understand viruses. They think it is just like an infection. Give it some antibiotics, and it will go away.

thats not how viruses work. Thats why we need to change the vaccine every year. And even then, we may not get it right. As the virus may mutate and change. Making the vaccine ineffective.

Thats why they call virus attacks on computers so dangerous. One small code infiltrating your hardrive can cause havoc and even destroy a system.

Thats what viruses do and why they are so dangerous.

If you look at a can of Lysol. It says it fights a covid virus. Well it does. Covid is not new, it is this Strain of covid which has been changed so that it can infect humans, that makes this virus so dangerous. There was no vaccine or help for it. And it was new to our bodies so it affected us so quickly and devastatingly. Because our bodies had to form some type of immunity to it. In a few years. Like many viruses, our bodies will adapt. Thats why the bird flue, the swine flue h1n1 etc etc did so much harm initially. Because we did not have any immunity

yet here we have all these so called “experts” trying to tell us what is going on. When all they are doing is making a name for themselves.

Again, this is why I do not trust anything I hear anymore.
 
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People are free to reject what I tell them. Their bodies, their choices.

This is not complicated. The flu kills people every year. It has since the late 1800s, when electricity was brought to the masses. Not many people, but some. The more electricity and electro-magnetic radiation, the more flu. People died of flu and other respiratory illnesses with similar symptoms every year around the world, but especially in Wuhan and Lombardy, which were places with exceptional air pollution. Note that many of the people dying were mostly elderly or with co-morbidities, so were going to die of something soon anyway - if not corona, old age.

People aren't scared of the flu. So - the conspirators - let's call them the [DS] - needed a brand name that people would fear. They named it "covid-19". They made out its symptoms were such we had never before experienced, although for most cases diagnosed as coronavirus, the symptoms are not unusual. (It is possible the symptoms in some cases were related to 5G, and this would explain the bizarre symptoms in these cases).

Due to the potential for contagion (they claimed), they started prohibiting family members coming into hospitals to visit sick relatives. This allowed them to start up with the medical malpractice (due to the official treatment protocols) killing the patients. The medical establishment got away with it because families were not allowed to be present with the dying, although a number of medical staff around the world spoke out about it and were censored or fired. While all this was going on, the media were whipping people into a fear frenzy from this "deadly pandemic".

Then comes Bill Gates with his pre-prepared vaccine, after several months (a year?) of propagandising for it, so all these people living in fear of this mysterious virus (which wasn't really killing any more people than normal, except due to the medical malpractice) are begging for the vaccine. The vax starts being administered, around the world, and the real death counts start going up (medical murder via malpractice with other drugs is now no longer required to up the death tally, as the vax is doing that).

Thanks. I am not a doctor, so I can't suggest these for individuals - each of us needs to do our own research. But I have done enough to know these would work for me. I didn't know that about the anti-parasitic drugs and the potential for miscarriage, but I will say that these mRNA vaxxes have also been responsible for quite a number of miscarriages and still-births.
This my friends, as an extreme example of a conspiracy theory.
 
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Yep, when Covid finally enters your molecular structure, it reads the Cell and duplicates that Cell, but with a new Binary Code causing the human body to succumb it

All the Vaccine is attempting to do, is when Covid reads your Molecules and specifically your Cells searching for Weak Genetics, the Vaccine, is trying to hide the Binary Coding which allows Cell Copy and Reproduction.
And this much alone is why I believe Covid-19 is [not] a Virus, but a Bio-Weapon, for the Purpose of Euthanasia.
 

Gideon300

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What does having to force Native Americans, still fighting and attacking Settlers trying to advance Westward in relocation have to do with the Covid Vaccine?

Had the Native Americans been peaceful and allowed the Settlers to pass through rather than attack, kill, steal, the Calvary would have never been called to eradicate [even though the Native American's owned the portion of land eventually called the United States for thousands of years]..
And if they'd had the smallpox vaccine, many would have lived instead of dying from the disease.
 
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And if they'd had the smallpox vaccine, many would have lived instead of dying from the disease.
Amen!


What's interesting about all of that was the Europeans were Vaxxed and their Blankets were still Infected and the European Settlers were fine and healthy.

But for the UNVAXXED Native American, those Blankets were a DEATH Sentence!
 

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And this much alone is why I believe Covid-19 is [not] a Virus, but a Bio-Weapon, for the Purpose of Euthanasia.
yes, it is. created by china and used on us and supported by many of those who we call Senator, Congressman, General, etc...
 

Gideon300

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This my friends, as an extreme example of a conspiracy theory.
Someone claimed that a baby was paralysed from the neck down by a COVID vaccine. Of course, this is cannot be proved. And no COVID vaccine is approved for infants. It seems to me that COVID conspiracy theorists are paralysed from the neck up.
 
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yes, it is. created by china and used on us and supported by many of those who we call Senator, Congressman, General, etc...
And every time we think we have this cornered, this Bio-Weapon literally just changes itself to create a New Health Problem.

This is a Design and Lab Creation!
 

CS1

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And if they'd had the smallpox vaccine, many would have lived instead of dying from the disease.
If China did not create this in a lab to use and a weapon we would not have this virus now either. Smallpox was not created in a lab and manipulated to make it resistant to regular med's we take for common cold and flu
 

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And every time we think we have this cornered, this Bio-Weapon literally just changes itself to create a New Health Problem.

This is a Design and Lab Creation!
Yep and " a mandemic "
 
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I do believe Biden is OVERSTEPPING His boundaries with a MANDATE, but, if he knows this is a Bio-Weapon, as a Leader, he does have the Responsibility to protect us from any TYPE of WARFARE!
 

Gideon300

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yes, it is. created by china and used on us and supported by many of those who we call Senator, Congressman, General, etc...
You don't make a lot of sense.
and see "the flu" is exactly what made me realize that they were not telling us everything they know about C-19. That is the flu if you think about it is an hundred year long study that has involved billions of people. The flu has been here for over an hundred years(since ww1). Now this year they say they will give the option to receive the C-19 vaccine and the flu shot at the same time(that should be the wake up call). Why is that they keep saying their trying to reach "herd immunity" to C-19 by either people catching it or by vaccinating. Now look at the one hundred years of the flu,,,,if we could reach "herd immunity" to a virus why do people still die from it every year?,,,Why do you need a flu shot every year if you have immunity after catching it? You see they know you don't because we didn't with the flu and so you wont be immune after catching C-19 either. Do'nt catch it,,,don't let your children catch it...
The flu has been around as long as the human race. Vaccines were created just before the start of World War 2. Servicemen were inoculated because flu was a real problem in WW1. Most people recover, but they a not much use to the military while they are ill.

And yes, there are a huge number of mutations of the flu. Viruses can mutate (not all of them). COVID has mutated a number of times since it appeared.

Herd immunity will be achieved eventually. This will be when enough people have been sick and recovered, sick and died or been immunised. I prefer the last option myself. With the Spanish flu, when there were no flu vaccines, it took 3 years. Around 50 million people died. Most of them were teenagers and young adults.

How effective existing vaccines will be depends on the mutation. Current vaccines seem to be working on the variants that we have now. No one can predict exactly where this is headed.
 

Gideon300

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If China did not create this in a lab to use and a weapon we would not have this virus now either. Smallpox was not created in a lab and manipulated to make it resistant to regular med's we take for common cold and flu
What do you know about viruses? Some are structured in a way that makes it impossible for them to change. You know, like COVID conspirators and flat earthers. Some viruses, including the flu, can and do change. That is why there is still no cure for the common cold.

The virus may have escaped from the Wuhan lab. But to say that it was deliberate and a weapon is a stretch. Why bother? If you are going to make a bio weapon, do it right. Make it 100% effective, like Ebola. The China could just walk in and take over any nation it wanted.
 
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I do believe Biden is OVERSTEPPING His boundaries with a MANDATE, but, if he knows this is a Bio-Weapon, as a Leader, he does have the Responsibility to protect us from any TYPE of WARFARE!
Outside of God intervening, anything Created in a LAB for a WEAPON, can only be Destroyed and Battled by something else Created in another Lab.
 

iamsoandso

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The thing about viruses(from what I understand from reading) is that we have some sort of immunity to the "strain we caught"(the one that was circulating at the time we caught it) but because they mutate afterwards each mutation is trying to evade the antibodies and so your back to square one. If not there would be no influenza in 2021 nor the need to get the flu shot every year(no long term immunity for mutations),,, https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/09/01/1918-flu-pandemic-end/ https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html
 
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