People before Christ from the Old Testament, are they saved?

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rhern

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People who died before the resurection, how will they be saved?
 
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tstumf

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I’d say though I don’t necessarily know how. They evidently can be saved. The only glimpse I can give is that if you read the transfiguration.
Luke:9 28-36. Jesus met Moses and Elijah who appear in “glorious splendor” on a mountain. Moses was a murderer of course and If I remember Elijah was a coward.
 

rhern

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I’d say though I don’t necessarily know how. They evidently can be saved. The only glimpse I can give is that if you read the transfiguration.
Luke:9 28-36. Jesus met Moses and Elijah who appear in “glorious splendor” on a mountain. Moses was a murderer of course and If I remember Elijah was a coward.
Do you not believe the Words of Jesus in John 6:53-54?

Jesus said no one can come to the Father except by me........ He is the only way.

the purpose the the 1000 year reign is to bring back Israel

Ezekiel 37:
Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

14And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

They come to life to be with Him 1000 year. they have to know Him to accept Him.

as for Christians, we are in the body of Christ for ever.... by His Blood He will never leave or forsake us we are saved
 

rhern

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Zechariah 14 The day of the Lord and what He does to take over and save Israel from the enemy.

Verse 9 says The Lord will be King of the whole world. read to see how He distroys the enemies and Who s left around the world.

and what he does next.

Jesus told Peter and the apostle they will rule over the 12 tribes of Israel. ask more questions I can give you verses
 
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tstumf

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Do you not believe the Words of Jesus in John 6:53-54?

Jesus said no one can come to the Father except by me........ He is the only way.

the purpose the the 1000 year reign is to bring back Israel

Ezekiel 37:
Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

14And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

They come to life to be with Him 1000 year. they have to know Him to accept Him.

as for Christians, we are in the body of Christ for ever.... by His Blood He will never leave or forsake us we are saved
I think the thing you are missing though is the people prior to Jesus resurrection were still under the old covenant law of Moses. And there must have been some way they were redeemed if Moses and Elijah were saved prior to resurrection.

After the resurrection we Are under the new covenant and Jesus fulfilled the old covenant.

I’m not a biblical scholar. Just your average joe American with just slightly above an elementary knowledge of biblical scripture. It makes sense to me.
 

rhern

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I think the thing you are missing though is the people prior to Jesus resurrection were still under the old covenant law of Moses. And there must have been some way they were redeemed if Moses and Elijah were saved prior to resurrection.

After the resurrection we Are under the new covenant and Jesus fulfilled the old covenant.

I’m not a biblical scholar. Just your average joe American with just slightly above an elementary knowledge of biblical scripture. It makes sense to me.
Apreciate your reply ; Moses and Elijah did not say no one can come to the Father except by me...it was Jesus.

Jesus is the creator of the world the All Mighty His Word overshadow every thing and everyone else.

The plac over the Cross said King of the Jews. He is their Mesiah.

He said," you must eat my flesh and drink my blood to have eternal life. I cannot explain that???

But He said it to place emphases on Who has the power to give you life. pleasse question more...
 

rhern

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Jesus is the first to be resurrected the rest will come much later
 

ewq1938

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I think the thing you are missing though is the people prior to Jesus resurrection were still under the old covenant law of Moses. And there must have been some way they were redeemed if Moses and Elijah were saved prior to resurrection.

Of course. Jesus lived within the original covenant and he said how one can receive eternal life in Matthew 19:16-19
 

rhern

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Of course. Jesus lived within the original covenant and he said how one can receive eternal life in Matthew 19:16-19
read Zechriah 14 the beginnig of the thousand year reign ..The Lord will be King of the Whole world Verse 9 His name One.

The apostles will rule over the 12 tribes of Israel .................I can Show you
 

de-emerald

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People who died before the resurection, how will they be saved?
I believe Jesus preached to those people in abrahams bussom and quite possibly hades too
 

SteveEpperson

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The people of the old testament were covered under Levitical Law. There were sin offerings given to the Lord to cover their transgressions.

And although it was difficult to follow, I take Father God at His word that these people were made holy through their following of the Law.

I am so grateful that you and I are living on this side of Pentecost, where we are covered by the blood of Jesus Christ, instead. Aren't you?
 
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tstumf

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I think we’re getting a miscommunication here. isekiel 37 - Are you speaking of the Rapture o
And second coming rather than the Resurrection and assention. To my Knowledge Ezekiel prophecy on the second coming of Christ in those scriptures.
 

rhern

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The people of the old testament were covered under Levitical Law. There were sin offerings given to the Lord to cover their transgressions.

And although it was difficult to follow, I take Father God at His word that these people were made holy through their following of the Law.

I am so grateful that you and I are living on this side of Pentecost, where we are covered by the blood of Jesus Christ, instead. Aren't you?
Nope you have it all wrong read my written passages
 

rhern

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I think we’re getting a miscommunication here. isekiel 37 - Are you speaking of the Rapture o
And second coming rather than the Resurrection and assention. To my Knowledge Ezekiel prophecy on the second coming of Christ in those scriptures.
All Scriptures have to agree .....it is like a puzzle all the peices must fit
 

de-emerald

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All Scriptures have to agree .....it is like a puzzle all the peices must fit
The missing piece of the bible is not missing, the bible fits together in the right hands and is deadly in the wrong hands. the missing pieces are found when you reasearch and we all assemble to learn. There could be something you could teach me and there could be something i could teach you new, but the ultimate teacher is the holy spirit :)
 

SteveEpperson

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Nope you have it all wrong read my written passages
“Aaron must then enter the Meeting Tent and take off the linen garments which he had put on when he entered the sanctuary, and leave them there. Then he must bathe his body in water in the Holy Place, put on his clothes, and go out and make his burnt offering and the people’s burnt offering. So he is to make atonement on behalf of himself and the people.

“Then he is to offer up the fat of the sin offering in smoke on the altar, and the one who sent the goat away to Azazel must wash his clothes, bathe his body in water, and afterward he may reenter the camp. The bull of the sin offering and the goat of the sin offering, whose blood was brought to make atonement in the Holy Place, must be brought outside the camp and their hide, their flesh, and their dung must be burned up, and the one who burns them must wash his clothes and bathe his body in water, and afterward he may reenter the camp. Leviticus 16:23-28

I submit this scripture as evidence that God graciously offered His people a way of atonement before Christ became the final sacrifice.
 

Magenta

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I am so grateful that you and I are living on this side of Pentecost, where we are covered by the blood of Jesus Christ, instead. Aren't you?
Amen, and yes I am! In the olden days, I would have been stoned to death or burned at the stake :unsure::geek::censored:;)