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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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PennEd

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Yep, last November I could not enter CC after forget the PW. Trying to get a new one failed.
So I startet with a new name. My former name was wolfwint. Im on cc since Feb. 2014
I remember that name.
 
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So hours after telling everyone Colin died of Covid, they report this:

Hours later, it emerged that Powell, who was 84 years old, had multiple myeloma, a rare blood cancer that weakens the immune system.

He really was a Dead Man Walking before his Covid issues!
 
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Actually, I said, he Died of Cancer. Without Cancer, he has in reality a 75% more chance to beat it.

I feel they hid the Fact that Cancer played honestly 75% in the Role of his Death.

The way I feel they wrote it up was for 2 factors.

1) he was Vaccinated and Dies of Covid, not the Cancer that was Really killing him to Increase Numbers in the Vax and Death Category.

2) He Dies of Covid for a Count Increase in overall Covid Death Numbers.
Don’t you people get sick of saying something then deny you said it to only be shown you said it?

No, but this portion of what I posted:

They never listed he was in there for Covid, they list he was Diagnosed with Cancer.
Then it says he Died.
And the WIFE wrote it Covid Related

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was as read in the Article itself.


I ADDED the [SHE GOT PAID] portion to it.
not only did they say he was there for covid and other stuff, you admit to adding she got paid,
 
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So hours after telling everyone Colin died of Covid, they report this:

Hours later, it emerged that Powell, who was 84 years old, had multiple myeloma, a rare blood cancer that weakens the immune system.

He really was a Dead Man Walking before his Covid issues!
Which is what I have said all along

the shot was his best hope if he got covid, but in his condition it was no gaurantee
 
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Colin was a Man of Faith, a self pronounced Christian, so, I look at Powell having Cancer that was going to take his Life in a Matter of Weeks, God just used Covid to end his suffering and take him on Home!
 
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Don’t you people get sick of saying something then deny you said it to only be shown you said it?



not only did they say he was there for covid and other stuff, you admit to adding she got paid,
No, he was listed as getting a Cancer Treatment, but they worded it oddly, and then mention Covid-Related...DEATH!

The Truth was, he was in there for Cancer Treatment.

And died after being Treated!

But they are listing Cause of Death, COVID, not the Cancer Treatment!

That's padding the Numbers!!
 

Angela53510

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Dear Sister Angela, may i encourage you to seek out the doctors, scientists and those who are walking in truth because they still have a conscience.
We are living in the most deceptive times in world history - never before such collaborative deception - never before.

Only one time was there such great evil as we now see us in = the days of Noah.
Anti vaxxers on the internet? That's your idea of walking in the truth?

Give me many, large scale double blind, peer reviewed studies, and that is what I choose, every time! Anyone that picks anecdotal reports, which could easily be Placebo Effect, is not a scientist at all.

I am seriously ill, plus on multiple Autoimmine suppressors. It's that, or not be able to get out of bed, organs being attacked & pain and deformities. I need real science, not antivax outright lies, wishful thinking, or a wing & a prayer.

I made my peace 20 years ago about being on these meds, and have never regretted it. The 4 years before I was diagnosed and The meds and the med failures I have had, convince me I need meds to function.

I have to be very careful about even catching a cold. And that started 10 years before RA, when my 4th pregnancy triggered allergies & asthma. ( Good news is, after 30 years I am mostly over allergies and asthma!) so long before I went on these very strong meds.

Many people might want to play around without vaccines. That is their choice. I know too many people who have died of COVID, including a seminary professor. One fellow student got COVID along with his wife and children. The wife and children got mild cases, recovered quickly. He, young and healthy in his 30's, ended up in the ICU. He was going to be put on a vent, and he cried out to God. No one was in his hospital room, but he felt a warm hand on. his back. The warm feeling spread all over his body. In a few hours, he was breathing better. The doctors held the vent. He continued to improve, I know God healed him. He was Baptist, not a big proponent of healing. But even the doctors called it a miracle.

I know this young man is called to do much for God. He is a missionary in Mexico to a tribe of natives, who don't even speak Spanish, they are so remote. His desire is to go back, when he is better. God did choose him to be healed.

I know God can heal, but I am not going to tempt God. The more I follow health recommendations, the better I feel. Besides the fact that having no respiratory infections because of my carbon filtered mask has improved my lungs so much. That's my miracle. God instructed me to obey the laws of my country. I am against vaccine mandates, but we technically don't have them in Canada, nor should we. Hopefully enough people have volunteered for the vax, the virus numbers will decrease.

Please learn about science. It does not consist of lone wolf doctors and scientists putting out false evidence to confirm your opinion. It consists of large scale trials that are repeatable & verifiable. There is a whole field of science and math, called statistics. It is very rigorous. It helps uncover biases, and determine which things work. (But never 100%, because we are all unique human beings!)

Take a course in the scientific method. I have, and it works. I will never trust antivaxers. I know too much about science & have referenced the false claims of antivaxers, and found them to be misinformation at best, an outright lies or hoaxes at worst!
 
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No, he was listed as getting a Cancer Treatment, but they worded it oddly, and then mention Covid-Related...DEATH!

The Truth was, he was in there for Cancer Treatment.

And died after being Treated!

But they are listing Cause of Death, COVID, not the Cancer Treatment!

That's padding the Numbers!!
The family said the cause of death was covid. We have been through this

The cause of death was covid related but it was not covid itself. If he never got covid he still may be alive. Or he could have died from a common cold

You can not remove covid as a cause. He did nto die of the cancer alone.
 

Angela53510

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Sadly, we know the family of a young pregnant woman who was convinced the safest thing for her and the unborn child was the shot. She died! The baby along with her!!!!!! :mad::mad::mad:

The family knows the true cause of death would not be reported. One family member even tried to sneak the information onto her facebook post about the loved ones passing........
I'm sure I don't have to tell you what happened to that post.
My daughter got both vaxes when she was pregnant. She had a difficult pregnancy, Nothing to do with COVID. Had to stop working most of her pregnancy, on bed rest.

Her husband is a doctor, he read everything on the pros and cons of the COVID vaxes. She got the shots. She and the baby are fine at 6 months after the birth. Ok, the baby is absolutely adorable!

Deadly, some people are affected by the vaccine, including death. But how many pregnant women have died, versus how many didn't get COVID and die, because of the vaccine?

Again, neither my story nor yours are really valid as science. They are anecdotal. One person's experience. Show me long term studies, or even large group short term studies. Until that happens, you have nothing but a sad story!

If you do post data, make sure it is from a reliable source, and peer reviewed. I won't have anything to do with lying anti vax sites. Just so you know!
 

JohnDB

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They can;t see what they are doing is really no worse than what the liberals did when Biden was in office.

Which shows it is a political motivation not really a medical one

They will look to twitter. Right wing news agencies. And other aspects to find stories and news which stupor there own belief.

The last time I saw this great of a chasm in any country was in Rome. Sadly the Roman Empire fell because united we stand divided we fall.

They say they are trying to help our country, while they are hurting our country, by belong part of the problem not the solution

Look at it

The message are 180 degrees out. Total opposite of each other. When you see this type of war between two warning appose ts, the truth is usually somewhere in the middle

When trump was in office. No matter what he did the left fought it thT and nail

Now the opposite is happening. In fact is is funny. The right was mad at the left when they refused to take trunks advice and close down our cities until we got the infection rate lowered. And were Able to get the hospitals ready to handle the patients.

Now the right is eft because the left wants to lock us down…

If I was not in fear for my country I would probably laugh at it. But I am watching my country fall apart at the seams, because two sides hate each other so much, they will nt come together to help the country at any cost.
Actually you are wrong about the last time this happened...
It started in the 1920's and grew through the 30's until it's full weight was felt by the 40's. Basically the Christians have become the Jews versus the Nazis. The control of the media has already started in defiance of the Supreme Court mandate for the Whitehouse not to intervene with Social Media platforms...they did that exact thing in August.

I don't like it when Christians get involved in politics...it never ends well.
 

JohnDB

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Anti vaxxers on the internet? That's your idea of walking in the truth?

Give me many, large scale double blind, peer reviewed studies, and that is what I choose, every time! Anyone that picks anecdotal reports, which could easily be Placebo Effect, is not a scientist at all.

I am seriously ill, plus on multiple Autoimmine suppressors. It's that, or not be able to get out of bed, organs being attacked & pain and deformities. I need real science, not antivax outright lies, wishful thinking, or a wing & a prayer.

I made my peace 20 years ago about being on these meds, and have never regretted it. The 4 years before I was diagnosed and The meds and the med failures I have had, convince me I need meds to function.

I have to be very careful about even catching a cold. And that started 10 years before RA, when my 4th pregnancy triggered allergies & asthma. ( Good news is, after 30 years I am mostly over allergies and asthma!) so long before I went on these very strong meds.

Many people might want to play around without vaccines. That is their choice. I know too many people who have died of COVID, including a seminary professor. One fellow student got COVID along with his wife and children. The wife and children got mild cases, recovered quickly. He, young and healthy in his 30's, ended up in the ICU. He was going to be put on a vent, and he cried out to God. No one was in his hospital room, but he felt a warm hand on. his back. The warm feeling spread all over his body. In a few hours, he was breathing better. The doctors held the vent. He continued to improve, I know God healed him. He was Baptist, not a big proponent of healing. But even the doctors called it a miracle.

I know this young man is called to do much for God. He is a missionary in Mexico to a tribe of natives, who don't even speak Spanish, they are so remote. His desire is to go back, when he is better. God did choose him to be healed.

I know God can heal, but I am not going to tempt God. The more I follow health recommendations, the better I feel. Besides the fact that having no respiratory infections because of my carbon filtered mask has improved my lungs so much. That's my miracle. God instructed me to obey the laws of my country. I am against vaccine mandates, but we technically don't have them in Canada, nor should we. Hopefully enough people have volunteered for the vax, the virus numbers will decrease.

Please learn about science. It does not consist of lone wolf doctors and scientists putting out false evidence to confirm your opinion. It consists of large scale trials that are repeatable & verifiable. There is a whole field of science and math, called statistics. It is very rigorous. It helps uncover biases, and determine which things work. (But never 100%, because we are all unique human beings!)

Take a course in the scientific method. I have, and it works. I will never trust antivaxers. I know too much about science & have referenced the false claims of antivaxers, and found them to be misinformation at best, an outright lies or hoaxes at worst!
I lost another antivaxxer activist friend yesterday... similar story. Young dad in his 30's with beautiful wife and two small children...our churches secretary's son in law...I'm better friends with her son but was getting to know his brother in law...

It's just foolishness at this point.
 

Angela53510

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Remdesivir is a Fauci sponsored drug that is responsible for the death of many thousands.
Source? References?

Not taking your word. But if you are right, there should be lots of good references this has actually happened.

But no, there is a conspiracy of something, someone is hiding the "truth," FB took it down, Twitter banned you for being right wing Conservative/extremist! Right?? Wink, wink!
 
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Nehemiah6

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Hours later, it emerged that Powell, who was 84 years old, had multiple myeloma, a rare blood cancer that weakens the immune system.
That is a typical MEDIA SPIN. Here is the truth:
mRNA Vaccines WEAKEN Immune System Even After Covid Recovery, According to UK Data
"Vaccine researcher Alex Berenson first highlighted the UK government’s alarming admission, warning it means vaccinated people will never be able to acquire full immunity even after they’ve recovered from an infection."

So even though these bogus vaccines are doing extremely serious harm, tens of hundreds of thousands are losing their jobs because they refuse the jab. Is that not a clear indication that the vaccines are not being promoted to protect anyone?
 
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That is a typical MEDIA SPIN. Here is the truth:
mRNA Vaccines WEAKEN Immune System Even After Covid Recovery, According to UK Data
"Vaccine researcher Alex Berenson first highlighted the UK government’s alarming admission, warning it means vaccinated people will never be able to acquire full immunity even after they’ve recovered from an infection."

So even though these bogus vaccines are doing extremely serious harm, tens of hundreds of thousands are losing their jobs because they refuse the jab. Is that not a clear indication that the vaccines are not being promoted to protect anyone?
Just earlier this week, there was a report that stated those who beat covid and have natural immunity would have "super immunity" if followed with the shots...
 

Cabrillo

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Just earlier this week, there was a report that stated those who beat covid and have natural immunity would have "super immunity" if followed with the shots...
Not directed at any body:
Cannon foder!
 
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