What are you thoughts on Annihilation?

["taken" = "taken away in judgment"; "left" = "left on the earth to ENTER the MK age in their mortal bodies"... just as in Noah's day]

Luke 17 -

26 And as it came to pass in the days of Noah, thus also will it be in the days of the Son of Man: 27They were eating, they were drinking, they were marrying, they were being given in marriage, until that day Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came and destroyed [G622] all.

28 Likewise, as it came to pass in the days of Lot, they were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building; 29 and in that day Lot went out from Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed [G622] all.

Yours I believe!

622. apollumi

Strong's Concordance

apollumi: to destroy, destroy utterly

Original Word: ἀπόλλυμι

Part of Speech: Verb

Transliteration: apollumi

Phonetic Spelling: (ap-ol'-loo-mee)

Definition: to destroy, destroy utterly
Usage: (a) I kill, destroy, (b) I lose, mid: I am perishing (the resultant death being viewed as certain).


Apollumi

And your point, exactly?

this is 'the lie' of Satan.

the lie is that God put His breath into the living souls only in order to bring them into a dry place and kill them.
the accusation that God is a capricious, psychotic, evil murderer. that He created living souls only in order to destroy them.
that He did not give life or existence, but only a lie temporarily disguised as life. an illusion of existence waiting to be exposed as non-existence.




those are my thoughts on annihilation

“You will not surely die."

The lie of Satan is plainly spoken in Genesis 3 ~

“You will not surely die."

The lie at the heart of the fall of man and corruption of all creation is being repeated to this day.

Jesus says, "Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.
But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”

IOW the accusation that God had lied to her. that He had intentionally created her without access to wisdom or knowledge or true Life ((because He is Life)).
by implication that God cruelly brought her into existence in order to prevent her from having that which is truly good, and then lied to her about it.

it's the same accusation as "You only brought us into the wilderness in order to kill us, our children and our animals by depriving us of water"

"But where can wisdom be found? Where does understanding dwell? Man does not comprehend its worth; it cannot be found in the land of the living He saying in sinister way [Don't worry it won't make you wise]You will not surely die

yes 40 and the 2 they indeed all died in the desert and [Moses with them: Moses in this case a kind of allegory for the law]Only the 2 witnesses Joshua and Caleb made it to the promise land.He did bring them into the desert to kill them of course because wisdom is not found in the land of the living.

And your point, exactly?

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No comprehension either.
You said you've never said what church you attend but here YOU ARE SAYING YOU'RE STUDYING WITH SDA !
Hmmmm I say this might be a lie!

Don't bother responding,all can see here,furthermore I won't respond.

No M not to show how sassy I am but that I know what I've read others say. IG for you too.

@GaryA , Plus, doesn't it only make sense that, as the earlier vv.5b,6a speak of "5b THIS is the resurrection the first" / "6a ...in the resurrection the first" and understood as applying to ALL BELIEVERS...

...that therefore in verses 12 and 13 and 14, this is only the resurrection of those who are to be delivered to 'the second death'? (i.e. the "resurrection OF JUDGMENT / DAMNATION" spoken of in Jn5:29)
[i.e. "the DEAD [/unsaved of all times]"]

Also a common verse used is 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9: He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might."

Most mainstream Bible translations use the word destruction, and when I use the word destruction it means gone, torn down, and no more. Not torment or torture.

In my experience most people's perspective of hell comes from culture not the Bible. ie: Dante's Inferno, Saturday morning cartoons.

When I've heard countless pastors speak of it, it's usually more dogma then expository. Plus, people have raised some good points concerning the doctrine of hell:

1) "The wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord" these two comparisons don't seem to fit together. It would make more sense if it was "The wages of sin is eternal torment but the gift of God is eternal life."

2) As Christians like to often say, "Jesus died the death I should have died" Jesus was beaten and executed in probably the worst way a man can. Is it possible that a similar punishment awaits those unrepentant in judgement to then be annihilated when it is through? Isn't eternal torment a greater punishment then what Jesus endured?

3) In Genesis Adam and Eve were kicked out of the Garden of Eden that led to the tree of life and God said "Now that the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil, what if he should stretch out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever!"

Scripture also heeds us to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling, and no one can stand before a holy God. I dare not say that NO judgement awaits those who do not repent and turn to God. Although I side more with annihilation, I am still open to the fact that I am wrong, but the dogma needs to stop.